Axelrod won't rule out Biden being dropped from the ticket

[Warren 4 Secretary of Everything]

Compared to the youthful, attractive, intelligent, energetic, and charismatic Ryan, Biden is left standing at the bus stop.

Will you stop with the Biden is "washed up crap". Biden still has the energy of a 20 year old. Ryan is the one that seems boring and old. Plus Joe's got more charisma in his pinky finger than Ryan will ever have.

[Warren 4 Secretary of Everything]

Politico, you are aware there's less than a four year age difference between Biden and Romney right? We should all be talking about how washed up Mitt is compared to young Obama. Let's face it, Mitt's washed up. He's been running for President since 2006 and is still losing. Obama is the future. This is his time and his town. Mitt's just living in it.

[Warren 4 Secretary of Everything]

Are you going to have all these guys in swim suits next Politico?  None really are my type.

Image is everything post-Eisenhower.

The image Obama is projecting right now is "nice guy, but in over his head." Look at how horribly he has aged. That did not happen to Clinton his first four years.

Yes, it did.
President Clinton also seemed a lot older after four years. Was he in over this head too?

As did George W. Bush

The stress of the job does that to you.
And we all know Romney dyes his hair and uses Botox.

[Warren 4 Secretary of Everything]

Obama dealt with the worst recession since the Great Depression. The '91 Recession was nowhere near as bad.
You do realize that African-Americans age differently than Caucasians right? Our hair gets peppered.

Caucasians goes full on gray, then white.

[Warren 4 Secretary of Everything]

Obama dealt with the worst recession since the Great Depression. The '91 Recession was nowhere near as bad.
You do realize that African-Americans age differently than Caucasians right? Our hair gets peppered.

You do realize that the 1979-80 Recession was much worse than 1991 (and today) and the saying is "Black don't crack," don't you? 

Forgot about that. And the 79-80 Recession was based almost entirely around interest rates and inflation. It was actually quite simple. The 2008 Crisis was more of 2 or 3 Recession in one.
1. The Housing Bubble Popped
2. Lehman Brothers Collapsed
3. International Financial Crisis
Those three things made it 26 x worse than 79-80. Beet could explain it better than me.

[Warren 4 Secretary of Everything]

Forgot about that. And the 79-80 Recession was based almost entirely around interest rates and inflation. It was actually quite simple. The 2008 Crisis was more of 2 or 3 Recession in one.
1. The Housing Bubble Popped
2. Lehman Brothers Collapsed
3. International Financial Crisis
Those three things made it 26 x worse than 79-80. Beet could explain it better than me.

Actually, no.  Unemployment was about a point lower, but inflation and lack of real growth were the problems.  In terms of the misery index, it was substantially worse.  In 1979-80, you had an oil shock, one brokerage house collapse, gigantic inflation and a the metals market going insane.

The 1980 recession was one of choice. The Federal Reserve deliberately tipped the economy into recession. In light of the inflation rate at the time, I believe it was the correct decision, even though, as I have said, Volcker tried to manipulate the timing for political purposes. Meanwhile, the 'recovery' was an illusion-- it was built on unprecedented and rapidly growing debts-- consumer, banking, and government-- as well as a rise in trade deficits, all of which continued each cycle until 2008.

If things feel better today than they did in 1980, it's because we are 3 years into a steady recovery, whether Republicans want to admit it or not. It'd also have a lot to do with the massive amounts of federal intervention and unprecedented actions the government had to take to stave off full-blown depression. And no, as a Democrat I am not happy about that. Contrary to the accusations of us being all big-government enthusiasts, I would have preferred the government didn't have to intervene in the economy or spend so much money stimulating it. But the empirical evidence could not be more clear. The interventions were inevitable and staved off a complete collapse of the free enterprise system in the US (nothing even remotely close to that was at stake in 1980). Even Paul Ryan knew as much when he begged Congress to pass TARP in 2008. Businesses should be thanking Obama for saving their asses, but that would be too much justice.

Thanks Beet. You truly are an economic powerhouse.

[Warren 4 Secretary of Everything]

The 1980 recession was one of choice. The Federal Reserve deliberately tipped the economy into recession. In light of the inflation rate at the time, I believe it was the correct decision, even though, as I have said, Volcker tried to manipulate the timing for political purposes. Meanwhile, the 'recovery' was an illusion-- it was built on unprecedented and rapidly growing debts-- consumer, banking, and government-- as well as a rise in trade deficits, all of which continued each cycle until 2008.

The inflation was not by choice.  Likewise, the recovery was quite strong, extending beyond the end of Reagan's second term.

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TARP, as you just pointed out, was not an Obama program.  It was the 2009 "stimulus" that failed miserably, that was an Obama program.  2008, was a crisis, that was handled in 2008, abet with some lasting effects.  The stimulus did not repair those lasting effects.  We are not better off than we were four years ago last November.

The Stimulus was not big enough to put us fully in recovery.
1.Half of it went to tax cuts to middle class families so the could feed themselves and keep the local grocer open, so that he could keep on his employees.
2.Another quarter went to aid to state and local governments to slow and stop the fireings of teachers and first responders.
3. Only a quarter of it went to infrastructure projects and direct government spending. Republicans try and act like it was an utter failure of Government spending.

Economists say that the stimulus saved 1-2 million jobs.