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« on: August 24, 2012, 05:21:57 PM »

http://uspolitics.einnews.com/pr_news/111766265/massachusetts-voters-splitting-the-ticket


Brown 49
Warren 43
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« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2012, 05:23:54 PM »

"Dominating".
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« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2012, 05:28:07 PM »

Personalities aside, she's the wrong candidate for Southies. Those are probably the 21% of Dems Brown is winning.
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« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2012, 05:32:59 PM »

Personalities aside, she's the wrong candidate for Southies. Those are probably the 21% of Dems Brown is winning.

Liberal bloggers on DKE are grumbling about the 'good ol boy' 'sexist' 'misogyny' Massachusetts electorate. I wonder why they nominated a female in that case! Apologies to Nathan in advance.
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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2012, 05:34:26 PM »

Obama is only up 11, which seems low to me.
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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2012, 05:41:59 PM »

Personalities aside, she's the wrong candidate for Southies. Those are probably the 21% of Dems Brown is winning.

Liberal bloggers on DKE are grumbling about the 'good ol boy' 'sexist' 'misogyny' Massachusetts electorate. I wonder why they nominated a female in that case! Apologies to Nathan in advance.

Because Massachuett's is such a regressive, misogynistic, racist, Tea Party supporting place.Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2012, 05:52:02 PM »
« Edited: August 24, 2012, 06:48:40 PM by Speaker Jbrase »

Obama is only up 11, which seems low to me.

Maybe not, parts of MA seem to be slightly on the path to swinging R, and on top of that Romney is the nominee and Brown seems to be doing better. No way in hell MA becomes close for Obama but I wouldn't expect any 20 point + leads unless Obama starts pulling away with it nationally.
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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2012, 06:00:05 PM »

Obama is only up 11, which seems low to me.

Maybe not, parts of MA seem to be slightly on the path to swinging R, and on top of that Romney is the nominee and Brown seems to be doing better. No way in hell MA becomes close for Obama but I wouldn't any 20 point leads unless Obama starts pulling away with it nationally.

11 is still low. By quite a bit. It's not going to be within ~16. Who are these Kimball people, anyway?

Warren is definitely not best candidate for the more working-class parts of Massachusetts but it isn't necessarily because she's a woman; I highly doubt that Cass Sunstein or whoever would be doing any better.

Although frankly if we lose this I probably will be tempted, at least in the heat of emotion, to blame 'reactionary elements' in the Boston exurbs and Dorchester. I'm from Western Massachusetts. We're not overly fond of Easterners.
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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2012, 06:08:59 PM »

Obama is only up 11, which seems low to me.

Maybe not, parts of MA seem to be slightly on the path to swinging R, and on top of that Romney is the nominee and Brown seems to be doing better. No way in hell MA becomes close for Obama but I wouldn't any 20 point leads unless Obama starts pulling away with it nationally.

11 is still low. By quite a bit. It's not going to be within ~16. Who are these Kimball people, anyway?

I thought 51-40 was kind of close. I expect the Massachussetts margin would be about 58-38. Romney picks up 2 percent from McCain and Obama loses about 4 percent from 2008. The Senate race is probably more along the lines of 47-44 Brown.
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« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2012, 06:17:33 PM »


srsly?
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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2012, 06:35:45 PM »

Obama is only up 11, which seems low to me.

Maybe not, parts of MA seem to be slightly on the path to swinging R, and on top of that Romney is the nominee and Brown seems to be doing better. No way in hell MA becomes close for Obama but I wouldn't any 20 point leads unless Obama starts pulling away with it nationally.

11 is still low. By quite a bit. It's not going to be within ~16. Who are these Kimball people, anyway?

I thought 51-40 was kind of close. I expect the Massachussetts margin would be about 58-38. Romney picks up 2 percent from McCain and Obama loses about 4 percent from 2008. The Senate race is probably more along the lines of 47-44 Brown.

Whoever wins the Senate race is going to win considerably more than 47%. Brown's ceiling is around 52% I think, Warren's around 54% if the dynamics of the race shift a bit.

Not buying this six-point lead, but I think Brown has a slight edge at the moment.
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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2012, 06:41:38 PM »

Obama is only up 11, which seems low to me.

Maybe not, parts of MA seem to be slightly on the path to swinging R, and on top of that Romney is the nominee and Brown seems to be doing better. No way in hell MA becomes close for Obama but I wouldn't any 20 point leads unless Obama starts pulling away with it nationally.

11 is still low. By quite a bit. It's not going to be within ~16. Who are these Kimball people, anyway?

I thought 51-40 was kind of close. I expect the Massachussetts margin would be about 58-38. Romney picks up 2 percent from McCain and Obama loses about 4 percent from 2008. The Senate race is probably more along the lines of 47-44 Brown.

Whoever wins the Senate race is going to win considerably more than 47%. Brown's ceiling is around 52% I think, Warren's around 54% if the dynamics of the race shift a bit.

Not buying this six-point lead, but I think Brown has a slight edge at the moment.
I didn't mean the final margin, I meant polling right now is about 47-44. So a slight Brown lead.
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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2012, 08:04:12 PM »

$#@$!!!!
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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2012, 09:22:58 PM »

wtf is this sh**t?  tell those fckers to wake the fck up or march them into the FEMA concentration camps
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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2012, 10:39:21 PM »

It really is amazing when you think about it. I laughed off any chance we had here in 2010. Then the miracle happened. Afterwards, I still thought this was a sure loss in 2012 and now look where we are. Well done (thus far), Senator Brown.
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« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2012, 06:39:09 AM »


Martha Coakley misspelled 'Massachusettes' when she launched her last desperate series of 'lockstep republican' attack ads.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QmyCyxD1lM
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« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2012, 06:41:05 AM »

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Polling right now is actually 49.5-44, unless there's a new bizarre rule where one subtracts 2.5 points from the GOP candidate.
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« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2012, 10:39:49 PM »

You'd think that this choice between a Wall Street pawn and someone who actually stands up to Wall Street would be obvious enough to Massachusetts voters, but nope.
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« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2012, 11:15:23 PM »


Martha Coakley misspelled 'Massachusettes' when she launched her last desperate series of 'lockstep republican' attack ads.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QmyCyxD1lM

So?
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« Reply #19 on: August 29, 2012, 12:19:33 AM »


Martha Coakley misspelled 'Massachusettes' when she launched her last desperate series of 'lockstep republican' attack ads.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QmyCyxD1lM

To be fair Massachusetts is probably the hardest state to spell besides Mississippi. I had to use spell check for both of those names. Yeah, it shouldn't be hard for a Mass resident to spell it, but campaign workers aren't always from your home state.
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« Reply #20 on: August 29, 2012, 12:22:17 AM »

There's really no need to try to defend Martha Coakley's Senate campaign.
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« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2012, 10:37:10 PM »

Brown MUST be in upper 40s consistently by October because of the "democrats coming home" effect that will likely happen the last few weeks and that's where Coakley could take the race.
Whenever the minority party is looking to hold onto or steal a seat, they usually lose ground in the final weeks due to the majority party coming home. So, if he's up say 45-40% by 10/15, he will probably lose due to the above effect.  However, 48-43% and he probably hangs on.
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« Reply #22 on: September 01, 2012, 05:14:23 PM »

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« Reply #23 on: September 01, 2012, 05:22:57 PM »

I wouldn't be surprised to see him break 50 very soon. Boston Magazine puts it best in the opening line its Warren profile this issue: "Elizabeth Warren was supposed to be the great liberal hope, the one Democrat tough enough to unseat Scott Brown from Ted Kennedy's Senate seat. Then she started campaigning."

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« Reply #24 on: September 01, 2012, 05:39:39 PM »

I wouldn't count Warren out yet. If she strikes a speech out of the ballpark at the DNC (I'm talking like Obama in '04), she could resuscitate her campaign.
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