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Ben Romney
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« on: August 26, 2012, 05:28:20 PM »

Gravis

Missouri:

McCaskill: 38.8
Akin: 37.3

Romney: 53.1
Obama: 36.1
Johnson: 04.1

http://www.scribd.com/doc/103846007/Gravis-Missouri-Poll-Romney-Up-Akin-in-Trouble-August-24-2012-2
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« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2012, 05:40:38 PM »

While the poll and margins themselves look kind of sketchy, it seems to confirm what the majority of polls are saying - Akin is probably done for, but he's not hurting Romney enough to put the state in play yet.
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« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2012, 05:41:55 PM »

"This poll is laughable..."

My numbers:

McCaskill: 53.2 %
Akin: 43.1 %

Obama: 48.9 %
Romney: 48.0 %
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« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2012, 05:46:18 PM »

Your numbers? Did you do a poll?
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« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2012, 05:49:41 PM »

"This poll is laughable..."

My numbers:

McCaskill: 53.2 %
Akin: 43.1 %

Obama: 48.9 %
Romney: 48.0 %

Oh, a Ben Romney clone.
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« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2012, 05:50:48 PM »


Obviously not.

Itīs just a parody... you are free to guess on which person Cheesy
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« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2012, 06:10:15 PM »

"On the whole, about 80% of individuals disagree with the statement, with about 61% of likely Romney voters indicating disagreement and 82% of likely Obama voters."

I may be dense here, but how is that mathematically possible in a poll where Romney leads by 17?
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« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2012, 06:50:35 PM »

DEM DECIMALS
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« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2012, 07:14:14 PM »

lulz
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« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2012, 08:00:34 PM »

"On the whole, about 80% of individuals disagree with the statement, with about 61% of likely Romney voters indicating disagreement and 82% of likely Obama voters."

I may be dense here, but how is that mathematically possible in a poll where Romney leads by 17?

Well, the undediced voters are strongly disagreeing with the statement.
It's the only thing possible.
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« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2012, 08:11:38 PM »

"On the whole, about 80% of individuals disagree with the statement, with about 61% of likely Romney voters indicating disagreement and 82% of likely Obama voters."

I may be dense here, but how is that mathematically possible in a poll where Romney leads by 17?

Well, the undediced voters are strongly disagreeing with the statement.
It's the only thing possible.

So, 82% of Obama voters disagree, and 61% of Romney voters...together, that's 89.2% of the electorate, so...

0.82*0.361 = 29.6% of votes are Disagree/Obama
0.61*0.531 = 32.4% of voters are Disagree/Romney
= 62.0% of decided Obama/Romney voters disagree

In other words, to get to "about 80%" (let's call that 75.0%) at least 13.0% of the remaining electorate has to agree.  However, there's only 10.8% worth of electorate leftover between Johnson/Undecided.  So, Johnson/Undecided voters would have to agree with the statement at a rate of 120% for those numbers to be possible. Tongue

Either I'm missing something, or this pollster is a little shoddy, at least this time.
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« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2012, 10:19:28 PM »

"On the whole, about 80% of individuals disagree with the statement, with about 61% of likely Romney voters indicating disagreement and 82% of likely Obama voters."

I may be dense here, but how is that mathematically possible in a poll where Romney leads by 17?

Looking at the crosstabs, it's apparent that whoever wrote the statement has mixed some numbers up.

The 61% and 82% are not of likely Romney and Obama voters respectively.

The 61% is the percentage of Republican voters who are both likely Romney voters and disagree with the statement.

The 82% is the percentage of Democratic voters who are both like Obama voters and disagree with the statement.

I'll do a little number crunching to get the percentages they should have given.
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« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2012, 10:39:37 PM »

More garbage.
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« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2012, 10:49:27 PM »

Okay if I'm weighting the Dem's, Rep's and Ind's correctly, I'm getting from the crosstabs that:

95% of Obama supporters disagree with Akin's statement
70 or 71% of Romney supporters disagree  (It's too close to the round off for me to be sure given I'm uncertain as to the weightings.)

91 or 92% of Democrats disagree
67 or 68% of Republicans disagree
85% of Independents disagree
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« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2012, 12:15:10 AM »

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