Whig Liberty Caucus

[Jerseyrules]

Mission Statement:

Our mission is to produce libertarian candidates for public office across Atlasia.  We champion limited government with emphasis on the role of the individual and the liberty of the individual.  Our goal is to promote freedom and libertarian ideas to the people of Atlasia, and to help elect candidates reflecting these values.  Members of other political parties are welcome to join, as are unaffiliated politicians.

[Goldwater]

Can I join the caucus? Or am I too much of a Neocon?

[Grumpier Than Thou]

I'm in!

[Supersonic]

Interesting, pray tell more.

[California8429]

Supported and I join

[Donerail]

I fully support this endeavor, though not being a Whig I'll refrain from membership.

[Pingvin]

Can socially conservative libertarians join?

[Donerail]

Can socially conservative libertarians join?

So long as we also allow the socialist neoliberals and authoritarian anarchists.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Can socially conservative libertarians join?

So long as we also allow the socialist neoliberals and authoritarian anarchists.

And pacifistic interventionists.

[CLARENCE 2015!]

I think this is a wonderful idea... I am glad there will be an official venue for party members such as Jerseyrules, 20RP12, and JCL to express their libertarian views in the context of our party....

[Grumpier Than Thou]

Can socially conservative libertarians join?

So long as we also allow the socialist neoliberals and authoritarian anarchists.

LOL

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

I think this is a wonderful idea... I am glad there will be an official venue for party members such as Jerseyrules, 20RP12, and JCL to express their libertarian views in the context of our party....

If they're more than willing to tolerate my moments of social conservatism I'd like to join.

[Jerseyrules]

Can socially conservative libertarians join?

So long as you are pro-civil liberties, etc., anti-wiretap, and the like, you are welcome to join! 

[Jerseyrules]

Can I join the caucus? Or am I too much of a Neocon?

Nah, you're good.

[Jerseyrules]

Interesting, pray tell more.

Well I'm going to leave a lot of specifics up to the members of the caucus; we will jointly vote on a platform after a Chairman is elected.  We should give people time to join before we do either, but why don't we schedule elections for a Chairman of the Caucus for...Monday?

[Goldwater]

Sounds good to me.

[Jerseyrules]

Everyone else?  Anyone want to run for Chairman?  I'm announcing my candidacy for Chairman of the Liberty Caucus.  Also, I propose that we change our name to "Inter-Party Liberty Caucus" or something like that to show we are not a party-based organization, and will break from our political parties to fight for libertarian principles.  All in favor?

Also, I propose we endorse JBrase for President.  Those in favor?

[Goldwater]

I vote AYE to both proposals.

[Jerseyrules]

I vote AYE to both proposals.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

I might consider joining this. However, I'm not exactly sure where I stand. I could easily be just as authoritarian one day as "libertarian" the next.

[Jerseyrules]

I might consider joining this. However, I'm not exactly sure where I stand. I could easily be just as authoritarian one day as "libertarian" the next.

I understand completely.  If you join, there's no compulsion to agree with or express publicly any of our positions; it's more of a guideline than law.  It's mainly just a home for people who consider themselves libertarian compared to the average Atlasian to congregate.

[Pingvin]

Can socially conservative libertarians join?

So long as you are pro-civil liberties, etc., anti-wiretap, and the like, you are welcome to join! 

I'm a social conservative on abortion, marriage, drugs. I strongly oppose wiretapping and any kind of cenorship. Can I join?

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

I don't think a person can call oneself a libertarian unless they legitimately believe that every aspect of government ought to be minimized and not expanded in any way, shape, or form -- hence why I stopped using the word to classify my ideology a long time ago, but that's just me.

[Associate Justice PiT]

I don't think a person can call oneself a libertarian unless they legitimately believe that every aspect of government ought to be minimized and not expanded in any way, shape, or form -- hence why I stopped using the word to classify my ideology a long time ago, but that's just me.

     There are some functions of government that I have come to see as "necessary evils" and live with, but I still find it rather unsettling to actively support government intervention in almost any area of personal or public life. I don't know what that would make me, but I have thought that the word "libertarian" is bantied about overmuch.

[Donerail]

I don't think a person can call oneself a libertarian unless they legitimately believe that every aspect of government ought to be minimized and not expanded in any way, shape, or form -- hence why I stopped using the word to classify my ideology a long time ago, but that's just me.

What about roundabout arguments (sort of recognizing that while the government and other individuals can infringe on liberty, the corporation is just as capable of doing so; thus, the proper role of government is to protect our liberties from both other individuals and corporations)? Roundabout arguments like the idea we need freedom of movement, so yes, the government can build the roads. We need freedom to live without being poisoned, so yes, the government can create national parks, restrict pollution, etc. People aren't really free unless they're free to actually live, so yes, the government can set a minimum wage. No one can be truly free if they are in fear for their lives, so yes, the government can fund emergency services and even some welfare programs. Government isn't the solution to the nation's problems, but it isn't so much about minimizing government intrusion, it's maximizing individual freedom through those who can protect them best from those who would infringe on them.