Romney: "Are you better off than you were 4 years ago?" Answer: "Yes."

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3. The Iraq War is over.

And Libya and potentially Syria have been started.

4. Osama bin Laden is Dead.

And we're still in Afghanistan.

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Yes, Yankee. Maybe we could have gotten a bigger stimulus and more meaningful health/financial reform had the Repugnicans made their first priority helping the economy instead of sabotage meant to bog down the President.

And SJoyce,

I'm sorry, I have issues with attempting to build the infrastructure of a foreign country while bridges here are crumbling.

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3. The Iraq War is over.

We didn't lose a single solider in Libya.  Comparing it to the Iraq quagmire is downright dishonest.

Libya was worse than Iraq. In Iraq you had the Iraq Resolution which gave some legitimacy to it. In Libya all you had was a 'constitutional law professor' completely ignoring the Constitution, as well as the War Powers Resolution, to conduct a unilateral war (did I mention he's a Nobel Peace Prize winner? Irony...) without any Congressional approval, charges of which he responded with some nonsense about how missile strikes weren't really "hostilities". War is a decision that can not be made by the President alone, based on a whim, with no vital interest of the US at stake. He completely ignored the Congress and House Resolution 292. It's worse than Bush, and he should really give back his Nobel Peace Prize, if not be removed from office.

3. The Iraq War is over.

And Libya

And ended.  With 0 American (or NATO in general) lives lost and at a cost of less than .1% that of the War in Iraq, as well as a result that, so far, looks better than many were expecting at the time.  Libya is one of the great successes of this Administration.

Ignoring the Constitution should never be considered a "great success", and switching from one despotic tyrant to many smaller tyrants, who imprison political prisoners, torture civilians, fight each other, and exact revenge for perceived slights.

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3. The Iraq War is over.

And Libya and potentially Syria have been started.

The Libyan "war" is already over and done with. We didn't need to do much there, and we're already out of there. It's really not a problem anymore at all.

Such a convincing argument you make! "Don't worry, even though he started another war and violated the Constitution then, there's no way whatsoever that's a sign he'll do it again! Please ignore his track record and instead let's talk about hope, change, and old tax returns!"

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To even compare it Iraq and Afghanistan is dishonest and asinine...

You're right, to try to downplay Libya by comparing it to Iraq and Afghanistan, or any other conflict that wasn't solely unilateral, is dishonest.

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To even compare it Iraq and Afghanistan is dishonest and asinine...

You're right, to try to downplay Libya by comparing it to Iraq and Afghanistan, or any other conflict that wasn't solely unilateral, is dishonest.

I don't understand your point.  Neither Iraq, Afghanistan, nor Libya was solely unilateral.  We had broad international support (at least among NATO and "Western" countries) for Afghanistan and Libya, and much less, but still some, in Iraq.

The relevant point is that 0 Americans died for Libyan freedom (or "freedom"), while thousands of Americans died for Iraqi and Afghan "freedom."

Not that kind of unilateral, domestically unilateral without any respect for the War Powers Resolution. The relevant point is that the President declared a unilateral war w/out Congress

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3. The Iraq War is over.

And Libya...

Libya is over.  Zero coalition lives lost.  Cost about as much as a day in Iraq.  You complainin'?  You must really never vote Republican.  You should see their wars.

I vote Republican on occasion (ex: Paul), but never for warmongers.

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To even compare it Iraq and Afghanistan is dishonest and asinine...

You're right, to try to downplay Libya by comparing it to Iraq and Afghanistan, or any other conflict that wasn't solely unilateral, is dishonest.

I don't understand your point.  Neither Iraq, Afghanistan, nor Libya was solely unilateral.  We had broad international support (at least among NATO and "Western" countries) for Afghanistan and Libya, and much less, but still some, in Iraq.

The relevant point is that 0 Americans died for Libyan freedom (or "freedom"), while thousands of Americans died for Iraqi and Afghan "freedom."

Not that kind of unilateral, domestically unilateral without any respect for the War Powers Resolution. The relevant point is that the President declared a unilateral war w/out Congress

I see if it's a war that a few hundred rich white men approve of while BILLIONS of people around the world protest against it is okay.  But if BILLIONS of people around the world agree with the war but you don't seek the approval of a few hundred rich white men then it is a travesty?!

Please provide your source for "billions of people around the world" agreeing with the bombing of Libya.