Opinion of Margaret Thatcher (user search)
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
April 30, 2024, 08:12:33 AM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  General Politics
  Individual Politics (Moderator: The Dowager Mod)
  Opinion of Margaret Thatcher (search mode)
Pages: [1]
Poll
Question: FF or HP?
#1
FF
 
#2
HP
 
Show Pie Chart
Partisan results

Total Voters: 68

Author Topic: Opinion of Margaret Thatcher  (Read 5556 times)
後援会
koenkai
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,265


Political Matrix
E: 0.71, S: -2.52

« on: September 02, 2012, 03:13:31 PM »

I am actually quite neutral on her. Did quite a few FF things and quite a few HP things.
Logged
後援会
koenkai
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,265


Political Matrix
E: 0.71, S: -2.52

« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2012, 01:04:51 AM »

Sickening website.

The lowest of the low.
I'd definitely say supporting Pinochet is lower.

Wormyguy, Pingvin and a few other fellows would disagree, however.

And I do too. Pinochet was...messy, but necessary.
Logged
後援会
koenkai
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,265


Political Matrix
E: 0.71, S: -2.52

« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2012, 01:42:17 AM »
« Edited: September 06, 2012, 01:46:32 AM by 後援会 »

Sickening website.

The lowest of the low.
I'd definitely say supporting Pinochet is lower.

Wormyguy, Pingvin and a few other fellows would disagree, however.

And I do too. Pinochet was...messy, but necessary.

Oh dear God. For a moment I even thought you were a decent poster.

Chile is by far, the most prosperous and most socially just country in South America. Contrary to popular history, Allende was a grade-A, anti-democratic asshole. Of course, Pinochet was too, but at the very least he left the country in decent shape. And you know, actually gave up dictatorship after it clearly obvious Chile wanted his butt out. Something rare among autocrats today (lol Gadaffi, lol Al-Assad). Quite easily the least of many evils. And anyone who argues the contrary is simply ignoring the reality Chile faced.

For all our partisan bickering in America, especially about foreign policy, I have no doubt that both Barack Obama and Mitt Romney would have backed Pinochet. Such is the deliciousness of bipartisanship.
Logged
後援会
koenkai
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,265


Political Matrix
E: 0.71, S: -2.52

« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2012, 10:44:00 AM »

Sickening website.

The lowest of the low.
I'd definitely say supporting Pinochet is lower.

Wormyguy, Pingvin and a few other fellows would disagree, however.

And I do too. Pinochet was...messy, but necessary.

Oh dear God. For a moment I even thought you were a decent poster.

Chile is by far, the most prosperous and most socially just country in South America. Contrary to popular history, Allende was a grade-A, anti-democratic asshole. Of course, Pinochet was too, but at the very least he left the country in decent shape. And you know, actually gave up dictatorship after it clearly obvious Chile wanted his butt out. Something rare among autocrats today (lol Gadaffi, lol Al-Assad). Quite easily the least of many evils. And anyone who argues the contrary is simply ignoring the reality Chile faced.

For all our partisan bickering in America, especially about foreign policy, I have no doubt that both Barack Obama and Mitt Romney would have backed Pinochet. Such is the deliciousness of bipartisanship.


Now, shut up, please. Chile may be the justest country in South America, but I'm pretty sure it was because of the "Concertación". I doubt Chile was a just country under Pinochet. I really doubt it. How can you support him? He was a genocide, a fascist. Maybe you are, too? Because, at least, Pingvin doesn't try to hide he's a nazi.

Fascist? Eh, maybe, kind of, not really. Genocide? Are you frigging serious? Do you even know what genocide is? There's a good case for genocide to be made in Guatemala - but Chile? Are you frigging serious?
Logged
後援会
koenkai
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,265


Political Matrix
E: 0.71, S: -2.52

« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2012, 11:13:44 PM »

What's amusing about the morally bankrupt and strikingly dishonest arguments used by a certain type of idiot right-winger to defend Pinochet is the fact that the structure is exactly the same as used to be used by a certain type of idiot left-winger to defend the Soviet Union.

Is this supposed to be some biting criticism? Try again, bro.

Supporting the Soviet Union as the lesser of two evils? I'm not ashamed to say that I do - in the context of their war with Nazi Germany.
Logged
後援会
koenkai
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,265


Political Matrix
E: 0.71, S: -2.52

« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2012, 10:24:20 AM »

Sickening website.

The lowest of the low.
I'd definitely say supporting Pinochet is lower.

Wormyguy, Pingvin and a few other fellows would disagree, however.

And I do too. Pinochet was...messy, but necessary.

Oh dear God. For a moment I even thought you were a decent poster.

Chile is by far, the most prosperous and most socially just country in South America. Contrary to popular history, Allende was a grade-A, anti-democratic asshole. Of course, Pinochet was too, but at the very least he left the country in decent shape. And you know, actually gave up dictatorship after it clearly obvious Chile wanted his butt out. Something rare among autocrats today (lol Gadaffi, lol Al-Assad). Quite easily the least of many evils. And anyone who argues the contrary is simply ignoring the reality Chile faced.

For all our partisan bickering in America, especially about foreign policy, I have no doubt that both Barack Obama and Mitt Romney would have backed Pinochet. Such is the deliciousness of bipartisanship.


Now, shut up, please. Chile may be the justest country in South America, but I'm pretty sure it was because of the "Concertación". I doubt Chile was a just country under Pinochet. I really doubt it. How can you support him? He was a genocide, a fascist. Maybe you are, too? Because, at least, Pingvin doesn't try to hide he's a nazi.

Fascist? Eh, maybe, kind of, not really. Genocide? Are you frigging serious? Do you even know what genocide is? There's a good case for genocide to be made in Guatemala - but Chile? Are you frigging serious?

LoL, you don't think Pinochet was a fascist. That probably means YOU are Wink
And genocide? Not at the levels of Hitler or Stalin, but because he didn't had that power. But, yes, a genocide. How can you argue he isn't? What's next? Golden Down aren't nazis, or Franco was elected in consecutive free elections?

Ahahahaha, no. The very fact you've think right-wing authoritarian state and fascist state are equivalent displays a shocking ignorance of what fascism is. Corporatism? Jingoism? The hell you talking about? If anything, the closest ideology to fascism that still survives is Peronism.

Also, state repression is not genocide. Genocide isn't "lol government killed people". Genocide is a terrifying phenomenon, but it's not something that springs up immediately because of a repressive government. The conflation of these two is very ignorant.

You should educate yourself about history before slinging around charges of fascism and other inaccurate polemics.
Logged
Pages: [1]  
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.034 seconds with 14 queries.