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« on: September 02, 2012, 09:04:41 PM »
« edited: October 02, 2012, 12:16:58 AM by Senator North Carolina Yankee »

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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2012, 09:09:56 PM »

Ben you have have 24 hours to advocate for this.
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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2012, 09:11:50 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2012, 09:13:34 PM »

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How is this for implementing the Committee's secondary recommendation?
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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2012, 10:40:05 PM »

I am aware of that concern, shua. Would you care to offer a framework that would pass Constitutional muster, then?
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« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2012, 02:08:50 AM »

How does the real US Congress do this then?


I do see the need. The committees are very new and could easily be subjected to whims of someone up and deciding they are worthless and thus ignoring their requests and demands. This will ensure that atleast for the duration they exist, they will be taken seriously by such people and thus allow the committees to get a fair chance at success.
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« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2012, 12:09:12 AM »

The best guess I can think of off the top of my head would be there is an implicit understanding among congresspersons that if any member of a party fails to satisfactorily cooperate with the committees, which seem to always have seats filled with people aligned with both the presiding government and a minority from the opposition, there would be punishments related to patronage delivered within the party rather than by the government as a whole. Alas, because candidates in the game do not really depend upon their parties to be effective instruments of political influence nearly so much as in real life, there is much less of an incentive for individual public officials to go along with all the unspoken rules and procedures established over time within the government.

Are you certain that is how it works?
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« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2012, 01:05:48 AM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contempt_of_Congress

It is a criminal offense in RL.

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« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2012, 11:38:05 PM »

Can I get some feedback, based on what I posted? How would it be best to structure this so as to be legal based on our Constitution?
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« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2012, 12:49:40 AM »

We have a new group of people in the Senate now, including some Constitution experience.


Marokai, what do you think of this and how should it proceed and still be valid legally?
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« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2012, 12:18:14 AM »

You would have to do it as a ban from holding office, which would compel a resignation, rather then impeachment.

Hagrid, I will make this suggestion to you. If you are desiring feedback on a text, the best way to handle it is to post it without calling/offering it as an amendment. Once you offer it as an amendment though, the process kicks in and you risk a vote, and even a failing one at that, that could have been avoided simply by getting the feedback first. Especially if it is a small concern or issue. One it is resolved, then it can be offered and quickly passed possibly without needing a vote on it.
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« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2012, 06:55:02 AM »

It is not to late. It is only too late, if a vote has been started on it.
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« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2012, 06:55:48 AM »

The whole point though is to save time so if Marokai could give a response that would be wonderfull. Tongue
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« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2012, 12:03:18 AM »

Hagrid do you want to add that ban on holding office in as well, or just leave it with a voting ban?
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« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2012, 12:29:38 AM »

Hagrid?


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« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2012, 11:35:24 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2012, 11:35:25 PM »

The amendment will have passed by the time this post goes through.
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« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2012, 11:36:39 PM »

Damn, 24 hours and one second. Tongue
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« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2012, 11:22:57 PM »

Is that all?

Is everyone satisfied with the text?
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« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2012, 12:07:22 AM »

How about you Ben? (Postive answer will be construed as a call for a final vote).
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« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2012, 11:42:40 PM »

Senators, this is now at final vote, please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.
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« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2012, 12:10:07 AM »

Aye
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« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2012, 11:27:04 PM »

Senators, this bill has enough votes to pass. Senators have 24 hours to change their votes.
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« Reply #23 on: September 25, 2012, 12:34:12 AM »

Vote on Final Passage of The Contempt of Congress Act:

Aye (6): Ben, HagridoftheDeep, Marokai Blue, NC Yankee, sbane, Scott
Nay (1): Redalgo
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (2): Bacon King and NVTownsend

With six ayes and one nay, the bill has passed and is presented to the President for executive action.
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« Reply #24 on: September 25, 2012, 12:36:12 AM »
« Edited: September 25, 2012, 12:37:44 AM by Senator North Carolina Yankee »

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