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« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2012, 06:50:11 PM »

Awesome so far, though I'm not so sure King is as certain to caucus democrat as everybody seems to think.  Especially if Mitt is elected.

In this climate, I don't see how he wouldn't caucus with the Democrats.

He claims he's undecided on who to caucus with, and if the unlikely GOP-wank scenario happens with 59 GOP senators, they'd be willing to give a good amount of nice committee seats to put them over the top (same if Obama's re-elected and the senate is 50-49 favoring the GOP, or if Romney is elected and the GOP has 49 seats) to put themselves over the top.  Also, both were very nonpartisan governors (Mitt in MA, with a 75% Democratic legislature, and King with maybe a handful of Indy legislators)

You should read the issues page of his website. He sounds more left-wing than most Democrats. There's absolutely no way he'll caucus with the GOP.
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« Reply #26 on: September 18, 2012, 05:20:17 PM »

About 10:15 PM

We have the first important call to make tonight.  Fox News projects that Mitt Romney is the winner in the state of North Carolina.  This state was hotly contested by both campaigns and was where the Democrats held their convention, but now, it has gone to Governor Romney. 

North Carolina (Final Results)
Romney- 53%
Obama- 45%
Others- 2%

So now, let's update our map again.  Mitt Romney is now up to 181 electoral votes to President Obama's 118.


Romney- 181
Obama- 118
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« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2012, 07:15:47 AM »

Awesome so far, though I'm not so sure King is as certain to caucus democrat as everybody seems to think.  Especially if Mitt is elected.

In this climate, I don't see how he wouldn't caucus with the Democrats.

He claims he's undecided on who to caucus with, and if the unlikely GOP-wank scenario happens with 59 GOP senators, they'd be willing to give a good amount of nice committee seats to put them over the top (same if Obama's re-elected and the senate is 50-49 favoring the GOP, or if Romney is elected and the GOP has 49 seats) to put themselves over the top.  Also, both were very nonpartisan governors (Mitt in MA, with a 75% Democratic legislature, and King with maybe a handful of Indy legislators)

You should read the issues page of his website. He sounds more left-wing than most Democrats. There's absolutely no way he'll caucus with the GOP.

I've done that and watched his videos.  He seems like a latter-day Ross Perot to me.
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« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2012, 05:50:02 PM »
« Edited: October 16, 2012, 06:54:35 PM by Oldiesfreak1854 »

UPDATES:

Arizona (32% in)
Romney- 58%
Obama- 41%
Others- 1%

Arizona Senate (34% in)
Flake- 59%
Carmona- 40%
Others- 1%

Colorado (28% in)
Romney- 55%
Obama- 43%
Others- 2%

Connecticut Senate (70% in)
McMahon- 53%
Murphy- 45%
Others- 2%

Florida (73% in)
Romney- 51%
Obama- 47%
Others- 2%

Indiana Governor (82% in)
Pence- 53%
Gregg- 45%
Others- 2%

Indiana Senate (80% in)
Mourdock- 51%
Donnelly- 48%
Others- 1%

Massachusetts Senate (69% in)
Brown- 50%
Warren- 48%
Others- 1%
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« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2012, 08:28:55 PM »
« Edited: September 26, 2012, 03:34:18 PM by Oldiesfreak1854 »

UPDATES (Continued):

Michigan (42% in)
Romney- 53%
Obama- 45%
Others- 2%

Michigan Senate (43% in)
Hoekstra- 54%
Stabenow- 44%
Others- 2%

Missouri Senate (62% in)
McCaskill- 51%
Akin- 48%
Others- 1%

Nebraska Senate (25% in)
Fischer- 56%
Kerrey- 43%
Others- 1%

New Hampshire (66% in)
Obama- 51%
Romney- 48%
Others- 1%

New Hampshire Governor (67% in)
Lamontagne- 50%
Hassan- 49%
Others- 1%

New Mexico (28% in)
Romney- 52%
Obama- 47%
Others- 1%

New Mexico Senate (29% in)
Wilson- 53%
Heinrich- 46%
Others- 1%

Ohio (78% in)
Obama- 53%
Romney- 45%
Others- 2%

Ohio Senate (79% in)
Brown- 52%
Mandel- 46%
Others- 2%

Pennsylvania (63% in)
Obama- 53%
Romney- 46%
Others- 1%

Texas Senate (45% in)
Cruz- 56%
Sadler- 42%
Others- 1%

Virginia (81% in)
Obama- 53%
Romney- 45%
Others- 2%

Virginia Senate (82% in)
Kaine- 51%
Allen- 48%
Others- 1%

West Virginia Governor (75% in)
Tomblin- 52%
Maloney- 46%
Others- 2%

West Virginia Senate (74% in)
Manchin- 54%
Raese- 45%
Others- 1%

Wisconsin (29% in)
Romney- 53%
Obama- 45%
Others- 1%

Wisconsin Senate (28% in)
Thompson- 55%
Baldwin- 44%
Others- 1%
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« Reply #30 on: September 25, 2012, 05:46:21 PM »

Looks great man; keep it up!  Wink
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« Reply #31 on: September 26, 2012, 03:32:25 PM »
« Edited: September 26, 2012, 03:36:59 PM by Oldiesfreak1854 »

About 10:30 PM

We have another call at this hour.  Fox News projects that Mitt Romney is the winner in the state of Arizona.  This was a state that was expected to go for Romney, but the Obama campaign hoped to get a large enough share of the Hispanic vote to carry it.  Still, as expected, it goes to Mitt Romney tonight.

Arizona (Final Results)
Romney- 54%
Obama- 45%
Others- 1%

About 10:45 PM

We now have several important Senate and gubernatorial calls to make.  All of these states have been closed for a while, but we now have enough data to call these races.  First, we project that Democratic Senator Joe Manchin will be reelected in West Virginia.

West Virginia Senate (Final Results)
Manchin- 53%
Raese- 45%
Others- 2%

Also in West Virginia, we project that Democratic Governor Earl Ray Tomblin will defeat his Republican challenger Bill Maloney.

West Virginia Governor (Final Results)
Tomblin- 55%
Maloney- 44%
Others- 1%

In Indiana, we project that Mike Pence has won his bid for Governor.

Indiana Governor (Final Results)
Pence- 56%
Gregg- 42%
Others- 2%

In Missouri, we project that Democratic Governor Jay Nixon will be reelected.

Missouri Governor (Final Results)
Nixon- 55%
Spence- 43%
Others- 2%
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« Reply #32 on: September 26, 2012, 04:18:49 PM »

About 10:30 PM

We have another call at this hour.  Fox News projects that Mitt Romney is the winner in the state of Arizona.  This was a state that was expected to go for Romney, but the Obama campaign hoped to get a large enough share of the Hispanic vote to carry it.  Still, as expected, it goes to Mitt Romney tonight.

Arizona (Final Results)
Romney- 54%
Obama- 45%
Others- 1%

How badly did Dick Carmona lose the senate race there. To break 50 he'd have to pick up 5 percent of Romney voters.
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« Reply #33 on: September 27, 2012, 01:28:38 PM »

We can now update our map at this time.  Arizona has now gone to Governor Romney, which puts him at 192 electoral votes to President Obama's 118.



Romney- 192
Obama- 118
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« Reply #34 on: September 27, 2012, 03:34:57 PM »

The fact that New Mexico hasn't been called for Obama is laughable.
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« Reply #35 on: September 27, 2012, 04:48:09 PM »

The fact that New Mexico hasn't been called for Obama is laughable.
No, it's not.  New Mexico is a swing state, even if the polls don't show it.
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« Reply #36 on: September 27, 2012, 04:52:09 PM »

The fact that New Mexico hasn't been called for Obama is laughable.
No, it's not.  New Mexico is a swing state, even if the polls don't show it.
Obama's lead has consistently been within the double digits, New Mexico isn't a swing state. But by your logic, that even though the polls don't show it, then Indiana, Arizona, and North Carolina should be Tossups right now. There's no way Pennsylvania and Michigan haven't been called yet, but Arizona and North Carolina have.
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« Reply #37 on: September 30, 2012, 07:19:24 PM »

The fact that New Mexico hasn't been called for Obama is laughable.
No, it's not.  New Mexico is a swing state, even if the polls don't show it.
Obama's lead has consistently been within the double digits, New Mexico isn't a swing state. But by your logic, that even though the polls don't show it, then Indiana, Arizona, and North Carolina should be Tossups right now. There's no way Pennsylvania and Michigan haven't been called yet, but Arizona and North Carolina have.
Pennsylvania, Michigan, and New Mexico are all swing states.  Gore only carried Michigan by 5 points in 2000, and Kerry only took it by 3 points.  Obama's '08 victory was an outlier because it was a major Demcorat year nationally.  Likewise, Gore only took New Mexico by 366 votes in 2000, and Bush carried it by about 10,000 votes in 2004.  Pennsylvania was close in all those years and McCain tried to play there in 2008; even in a Democratic wave, Obama only took it by 11 points.
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« Reply #38 on: October 04, 2012, 04:20:29 PM »

I know I haven't posted on here in a while, but trust me: I will.  It's just that it takes a while to list all the results, along with including all the maps and updates.  So be patient: I haven't forgotten about this topic.
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« Reply #39 on: October 06, 2012, 08:29:05 PM »
« Edited: October 07, 2012, 06:57:55 AM by Oldiesfreak1854 »

About 10:50 PM
We have yet another very important call to make.  Fox News projects that President Obama is the winner in the state of Pennsylvania.  

Pennsylvania (Final Results)
Obama- 53%
Romney- 46%
Others- 1%

So we now can update our map again.  Governor Romney currently leads with 192 electoral votes, and President Obama has 138 electoral votes.



Romney- 192
Obama- 138
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« Reply #40 on: October 11, 2012, 05:59:38 PM »
« Edited: November 04, 2012, 07:05:13 PM by Oldiesfreak1854 »

11:00 PM

It is now 11PM, and we have several more races to call at this time.  In the state of California, we project that President Obama is the winner.  No big surprise here, folks: this considered one of the safest states for him this cycle.

California (Final Results)
Obama- 57%
Romney- 41%
Others- 2%

In the California Senate contest, we project that Democratic incumbent Dianne Feinstein will be reelected.

California Senate (Final Results)
Feinstein- 59%
Emken- 39%
Others- 2%

Fox News projects that President Obama is also the winner in Hawaii.

Hawaii (Final Results)
Obama- 67%
Romney- 32%
Others- 1%

In the Hawaii Senate race, we project that Democratic Congresswoman Mazie Hirono will defeat former Republican Governor Linda Lingle in a rematch of the 2002 Governor's race, which Lingle won.

Hawaii Senate (Final Results)
Hirono- 58%
Lingle- 41%
Others- 1%

In the state of Idaho, we project that Mitt Romney is the winner.

Idaho (Final Results)
Romney- 67%
Obama- 31%
Others- 2%

We also can project that Mitt Romney will be the winner in North Dakota.

North Dakota (Final Results)
Romney- 58%
Obama- 41%
Others- 1%

In the Senate race in the state of North Dakota, Republican Congressman Rick Berg is facing Democrat Heidi Heitkamp.  That race is too close to call.

North Dakota Senate (Scattering Returns)
Berg- 65%
Heitkamp- 34%
Others- 1%

In Oregon, we project that President Obama is the winner.

Oregon (Final Results)
Obama- 53%
Romney- 45%
Others- 2%

In the state of Washington, we have three races we are watching.  First, we project that President Obama is the winner in that state.

Washington (Final Results)
Obama- 55%
Romney- 44%
Others- 1%

In the Senate race in Washington, we project that Democratic Senator Maria Cantwell wins and will be headed back to Washington for another six years.

Washington Senate (Final Results)
Cantwell- 58%
Baumgartner- 40%
Others- 2%

In the governor's race, also in the state of Washington, Republican Attorney General Rob McKenna is challenging Democratic Congressman Jay Inslee.  This is an important race because it represents one of the best opportunities for Republicans to win the governor's office in Washington in many years.  Democrats have controlled this governorship for 28 years, and Fox News projects that this race is too close to call.

Washington Governor (Scattering Returns)
McKenna- 57%
Inslee- 43%
Others- 0%

Now let's update our map again.  For the first time since about 8:00 this evening, President Obama has a lead in the Electoral College vote.  He now has 221 electoral votes to Mitt Romney's 199.


Obama- 221
Romney- 199

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« Reply #41 on: October 15, 2012, 09:56:17 AM »
« Edited: October 15, 2012, 10:03:41 AM by Oldiesfreak1854 »

We have one more call to make (sorry I forgot about this one!).  Fox News projects that in the North Dakota Governor's race, Republican incumbent Jack Dalrymple will win reelection.

North Dakota Governor (Final Results)
Dalrymple- 68%
Taylor- 31%
Others- 1%

Senate Map (sorry I didn't include these sooner):



(I added the results for Tennessee on the 8PM post.)

Democrats- 51
Republicans- 47
Independents- 3
Net Change- I +1

Governor Maps:



Republicans- 30
Democrats- 19
Others-
Net Change- R +1
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« Reply #42 on: October 16, 2012, 06:52:54 PM »

UPDATES:

Arizona Senate (54% in)
Flake- 54%
Carmona- 44%
Others- 2%

Colorado (48% in)
Romney- 53%
Obama- 45%
Others- 2%

Connecticut Senate (81% in)
Murphy- 51%
McMahon- 48%
Others- 1%
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« Reply #43 on: October 23, 2012, 08:44:37 PM »

UPDATES (Continued):

Florida (87% in)
Romney- 54%
Obama- 44%
Others- 2%

Florida Senate (88% in)
Nelson- 53%
Mack- 45%
Others- 2%

Indiana Senate (91% in)
Mourdock- 51%
Donnelly- 48%
Others- 1%

Iowa (24% in)
Romney- 54%
Obama- 45%
Others- 1%

Massachusetts Senate (83% in)
Warren- 50%
Brown- 49%
Others- 1%

Michigan (53% in)
Romney- 52%
Obama- 46%
Others- 2%

Michigan Senate (54% in)
Hoekstra- 51%
Stabenow- 48%
Others- 1%

Missouri Senate (74% in)
McCaskill- 52%
Akin- 46%
Others- 2%

Montana (25% in)
Romney- 57%
Obama- 41%
Others- 2%

Montana Governor (26% in)
Hill- 54%
Bullock- 45%
Others- 1%

Montana Senate (25% in)
Rehberg- 55%
Tester- 44%
Others- 1%
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« Reply #44 on: October 29, 2012, 06:22:21 PM »
« Edited: November 04, 2012, 06:08:36 PM by Oldiesfreak1854 »

UPDATES (Continued):

Nebraska Senate (37% in)
Fischer- 58%
Nelson- 40%
Others- 2%

Nevada (22% in)
Romney- 54%
Obama- 44%
Others- 2%

Nevada Senate (23% in)
Heller- 57%
Berkeley- 42%
Others- 1%

New Hampshire (81% in)
Obama- 50%
Romney- 49%
Others- 1%

New Hampshire Governor (83% in)
Hassan- 51%
Lamontagne- 48%
Others- 1%

New Mexico Senate (36% in)
Heinrich- 54%
Wilson- 45%
Others- 1%

Ohio (92% in)
Romney- 50%
Obama- 49%
Others- 1%

Ohio Senate (93% in)
Brown- 52%
Mandel- 47%
Others- 1%

Texas Senate (45% in)
Cruz- 55%
Sadler- 44%
Others- 1%

Virginia (96% in)
Romney- 51%
Obama- 48%
Others- 1%

Virginia Senate
Kaine- 54%
Allen- 45%
Others- 1%

Wisconsin (40% in)
Romney- 53%
Obama- 45%
Others- 2%

Wisconsin Senate (41% in)
Thompson- 52%
Baldwin- 47%
Others- 1%
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« Reply #45 on: October 29, 2012, 09:55:46 PM »

Good update.
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« Reply #46 on: November 04, 2012, 03:22:33 PM »

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« Reply #47 on: November 04, 2012, 07:03:52 PM »

About 11:30 PM
We have an extremely important call to make now.  Fox News projects that Mitt Romney will be the winner in the state of Florida.

Florida (Final Results)
Romney- 53%
Obama- 45%
Others- 2%

12:00 PM
The last state, Alaska, has just closed, and Fox News projects that Mitt Romney is the winner there.  That's not a big surprise, since Alaska hasn't voted for a Democrat for president since 1964.

Alaska (Final Results)
Romney- 62%
Obama- 37%


Romney- 231
Obama- 221
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« Reply #48 on: November 04, 2012, 07:08:07 PM »

Is there a reason Michigan, Wisconsin, and Nevada are still undecided, but Florida has been called and beat Bush's 5 percent margin from 2004?
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« Reply #49 on: November 05, 2012, 07:05:07 PM »

Before I continue, should I end it here and start over after the election with the actual results?  You make that call for me.
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