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Junior Chimp
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« on: September 12, 2012, 09:30:18 AM »

Does this constitute the international security crisis which will as is normally the case favor the incumbent, or will Obama's 'Muslim-ness' and not-as-hawkish-as-the-GOP turn it to a Romney plus electorally?  My guess is, alas, the latter.

Just a final thought, editing... what are we doing with an 'ambassador' in Libya?  I wasn't aware they had a legitimate or functioning government - the proper ruler, who provided excellent security, was killed by a usurping mob.  To put an ambassador into this mayhem is crazy.

You're a freaking Gaddafi apologist? He was a tyrant and a monsterously evil man who murdered thousands of his own people. He slaughtered non-violent protestors; which is why those "usurpers" went violent.

I hate the dictator apologism on the fringe left.

Eh, I was afraid something like this might happen. Look, it was inevitable from the very beginning that the overthrow of nominally secular, socialist regimes, however ideologically hollowed-out and morall decrepit, would take an Islamist tinge. However, contrary to my original fears, the so-called 'Arab Spring' was not an Islamist revolution, and nothing that has happened since makes it so, including this.

Clearly, the US will have to take a harder line in Libya and Egypt with regard to the security of US personnel and the maintenance of order. Since Governor Romney is already seeking to exploit this, the President must also be unusually aware of his domestic audience versus his foreign one. What Americans want to hear is a strong statement. I think this permanently increases the alert level out there for Islamist extremism, as well. Beyond this, it is difficult to say how far things will go at this point, let's hope it goes no further than it has already gone.

You're correct; the Arab Spring isn't at at an Islamist one; this is not like the Iranian revolution, no matter how much groups on the left and right want it to be some so they can condemn it.

These thugs are NOT representative of the whole population, and I'm pretty sure that the legitimate Libyan government will take steps to remove them.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2012, 11:57:15 AM »

Hey Mikado, can I call dead0man a dunce for his bigoted comments? If not, then I'll delete this post (assuming dead0man doesn't quote it).
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Zioneer
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2012, 12:15:01 AM »

Just a final thought, editing... what are we doing with an 'ambassador' in Libya?  I wasn't aware they had a legitimate or functioning government - the proper ruler, who provided excellent security, was killed by a usurping mob.  To put an ambassador into this mayhem is crazy.

The bearded men are in charge now, opebo.

Well, in Libya, alas yes, but crucially not yet in Egypt.  The Army still has a fighting chance to deal with them as they should be dealt with.

Remember Gaddafi, gentlemen - a man who, whatever his sartorial sins, could protect an American ambassador.

He also slaughtered his own people, assassinated dissenters living in other nations, and bombed nightclubs. But he protected ambassadors, what a wonderful man!
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2012, 09:52:19 AM »

I stand by my opinion than it was done purposely to create havoc and violence.

I don't want to delve into conspiracy theories, but is it possible that the Islamist embassy killers and the film makers were working together at some point, for some unarticulated goal?
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