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« Reply #75 on: October 14, 2012, 11:28:32 PM »

Mark Warner defeats Andrew Cuomo by double digits in South Carolina as expected!



South Carolina:
Mark Warner: 41.23%
Andrew Cuomo: 29.43%
Brian Schweitzer: 18.42%
John Hickenlooper: 10.92%

In a narrow and bitter race, Cuomo pulls out of the race stronger than ever, beating a surging Warner!

Florida:
Andrew Cuomo: 35.34%
Mark Warner: 34.85%
Brian Schweitzer: 17.35%
John Hickenlooper: 12.46%



Overall Delegates so far:
Andrew Cuomo: 159
Mark Warner: 137
Brian Schweitzer: 108
John Hickenlooper: 45

"We have two major people coming into the frontlines: Governor Andrew Cuomo and Senator Mark Warner. Both have campaigned heavily and have made strong performances in important states, and as a result, have the highest delegates and the most momentum heading into Super Tuesday. Former Governor Schweitzer, unfortunately, inspite of his shocking blow to Cuomo in Michigan, is now reduced to third in delegates, and most likely will end up in third on Super Tuesday, even if he wins every state he could possibly win. The real loser right now is John Hickenlooper, who, in the last two primaries, has failed to pick up a single delegate by falling below 15%. Should he continue this trend, he will find himself sooner rather than later out of the race." - Chris Matthews

Super Tuesday Map


Andrew Cuomo States (Strongest to Weakest):

New York:
Andrew Cuomo: 75%
Mark Warner: 10%
Brian Schweitzer: 4%
John Hickenlooper: 3%
Undecided: 8%

Massachusetts:
Andrew Cuomo: 60%
Brian Schweitzer: 19%
Mark Warner: 5%
John Hickenlooper: 5%
Undecided: 11%

Connecticut:
Andrew Cuomo: 52%
Brian Schweitzer: 24%
Mark Warner: 8%
John Hickenlooper: 4%
Undecided: 12%

New Jersey:
Andrew Cuomo: 42%
Mark Warner: 26%
Brian Schweitzer: 15%
John Hickenlooper: 7%
Undecided: 10%

Delaware:
Andrew Cuomo: 40%
Mark Warner: 38%
Brian Schweitzer: 6%
John Hickenlooper: 3%
Undecided: 13%

California:
Andrew Cuomo: 30%
Mark Warner: 29%
Brian Schweitzer: 18%
John Hickenlooper: 15%
Undecided: 8%


Mark Warner States:

Alabama:
Mark Warner: 53%
Andrew Cuomo: 22%
Brian Schweitzer: 10%
John Hickenlooper: 3%
Undecided: 12%

Arkansas:
Mark Warner: 52%
Andrew Cuomo: 21%
Brian Schweitzer: 14%
John Hickenlooper: 3%
Undecided: 10%

Tennessee:
Mark Warner: 52%
Andrew Cuomo: 27%
Brian Schweitzer: 8%
John Hickenlooper: 4%
Undecided: 9%

Oklahoma:
Mark Warner: 46%
Andrew Cuomo: 25%
Brian Schweitzer: 15%
John Hickenlooper: 6%
Undecided: 8%

Missouri:
Mark Warner: 40%
Andrew Cuomo: 28%
Brian Schwetizer: 16%
John Hickenlooper: 5%
Undecided: 11%

Georgia:
Mark Warner: 42%
Andrew Cuomo: 32%
Brian Schweitzer: 9%
John Hickenlooper: 8%
Undecided: 9%

Illinois:
Mark Warner: 30%
Andrew Cuomo: 30%
Brian Schweitzer: 21%
John Hickenlooper: 11%
Undecided: 8%

Brian Schweitzer States:

Minnesota:
Brian Schweitzer: 48%
John Hickenlooper: 25%
Andrew Cuomo: 12%
Mark Warner: 4%
Undecided: 11%

North Dakota:
Brian Schweitzer: 43%
John Hickenlooper: 35%
Andrew Cuomo: 5%
Mark Warner: 5%
Undecided: 12%

Alaska:
Brian Schweitzer: 40%
John Hickenlooper: 30%
Andrew Cuomo: 15%
Mark Warner: 7%
Undecided: 8%

Idaho:
Brian Schweitzer: 31%
Andrew Cuomo: 30%
John Hickenlooper: 29%
Undecided: 10%

John Hickenlooper States:


Colorado:
John Hickenlooper: 60%
Brian Schweitzer: 25%
Andrew Cuomo: 3%
Mark Warner: 2%
Undecided: 10%

New Mexico:
John Hickenlooper: 44%
Brian Schweitzer: 28%
Mark Warner: 12%
Andrew Cuomo: 7%
Undecided: 9%

Arizona:
John Hickenlooper: 38%
Brian Schweitzer: 28%
Mark Warner: 16%
Andrew Cuomo: 10%
Undecided: 8%

Utah:
John Hickenlooper: 29%
Andrew Cuomo: 26%
Brian Schweitzer: 20%
Mark Warner: 15%
Undecided: 10%

Kansas:
John Hickenlooper: 30%
Brian Schweitzer: 28%
Mark Warner: 15%
Andrew Cuomo: 15%
Undecided: 12%
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« Reply #76 on: October 16, 2012, 01:32:58 PM »

Super Tuesday Night, Part 1:



"It's that time of the year... Super Tuesday is here! We have the projecteed results from a couple of states, while other states are just looking as unclear as the polls looked before we checked them out, so first the clear states: New York, Massachusetts, Connecticut, and New Jersey all head to Andrew Cuomo by varying large margins. Not a surprise: New England has always been his strong point, especially since he can point to himself as the liberal on social issues in a field full of moderates. Toss-ups right now are Delaware, where Warner currently has the lead, but that lead has been shrinking since the night began, and Georgia surprisingly, where Cuomo has been rallying support from African American voters. While polls in Georgia had significantly showed a Warner win there, they always did show a possibility of a Cuomo swipe, and I guess that's whats happening at the moment." - Joe Scarborough



New York:
Andrew Cuomo: 79.59%
Brian Schweitzer: 12.22%
Mark Warner: 5.32%
John Hickenlooper: 2.87%

Massachusetts:
Andrew Cuomo: 58.34%
Brian Schweitzer: 30.11%
John Hickenlooper: 5.85%
Mark Warner: 5.70%

Connnecticut:
Andrew Cuomo: 55.85%
Brian Schweitzer: 23.48%
Mark Warner: 14.23%
John Hickenlooper: 6.44%

New Jersey:
Andrew Cuomo: 49.95%
Mark Warner: 28.23%
Brian Schweitzer: 16.82%
John Hickenlooper: 5.00%

Toss-Ups for Now!
Delaware:
Mark Warner: 35.45%
Andrew Cuomo: 35.21%

Brian Schweitzer: 21.21%
John Hickenlooper: 8.13%

Georgia:
Mark Warner: 42.02%
Andrew Cuomo: 41.92%

Brian Schweitzzer: 11.04%
John Hickenlooer: 5.02%



Super Tuesday Delegates (So Far):
Andrew Cuomo: 394
Brian Schweitzer: 57
Mark Warner: 30
John Hickenlooper: 0

"If these results are anything to go by for the rest of the night, then they show a front-runner who will not be backing down in anyway. He leads the closest person in this race today by over THREE HUNDRED DELEGATES, which is a very hard mountain to climb. Cuomo is very formidable in this race at the moment, putting a place that Mark Warner thought was fairly safe in jeopardy. Mark Warner seemed to take the Mitt Romney approach by coming with his private sector experience, and Andrew Cuomo, due to his strong governance of New York, is appealing to African Americans in the state, and that seems to be having a massive impact, which we might see in other southern states where we thought that Warner was massively ahead" - Chuck Todd
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« Reply #77 on: October 16, 2012, 02:05:48 PM »
« Edited: October 16, 2012, 02:08:04 PM by ConservativeLiberal »

Super Tuesday, Part 2



"We're back, as more polls have closed, more results have opened up: we have some Warner wins, some Schweitzer wins, and, inspite of the polling from the state, some Cuomo wins. First, Warner plucks off Oklahoma, Arkansas, Tennesse, and Alabama, all by varying margins, but generally big ones, though Alabama and Tennesse are a lot closer than any pundit could have predicted. Missouri, expected to fall into Warner's column, goes undecided tonight, as Cuomo has been gaining in the state since the night began, with Warner still holding the lead. In Schweitzer's land, to the surprise of no one, the Caucus of Minnesota goes to him. Finally, in spite of polling favorable to Warner, due to a large turn-out in Cook County, Andrew Cuomo gets a narrow but solid margin, enough for us to call the state for him! Oh, and we can call Delaware for Governor Cuomo!" - Brit Hume



Oklahoma:
Mark Warner: 52.82%
Andrew Cuomo: 19.85%
Brian Schweitzer: 18.95%
John Hickenlooper: 8.38%

Arkansas:
Mark Warner: 53.38%
Andrew Cuomo: 23.58%
Brian Schweitzer: 12.25%
John Hickenlooper: 10.79%

Tennessee:
Mark Warner: 47.37%
Andrew Cuomo: 37.37%
Brian Schweitzer: 11.28%
John Hickenlooper: 3.98%

Alabama:
Mark Warner: 44.84%
Andrew Cuomo: 35.35%
Brian Schweitzer: 15.00%
John Hickenlooper: 4.81%



Minnesota:
Brian Schweitzer: 52.82%
John Hickenlooper: 30.21%
Andrew Cuomo: 11.11%
Mark Warner: 5.86%



Illinois:
Andrew Cuomo: 46.34%
Mark Warner: 39.98%
Brian Schweitzer: 10.01%
John Hickenlooper: 3.67%

Delaware:
Andrew Cuomo: 36.06%
Mark Warner: 35.25%
Brian Schweitzer: 22.23%
John Hickenlooper: 6.46%

Toss-up States Right Now!

Georgia:
Andrew Cuomo: 42.02%
Mark Warner: 42.02%

Brian Schweitzer: 10.52%
John Hickenlooper: 5.44%

Missouri:
Mark Warner: 36.35%
Andrew Cuomo: 35.01%

Brian Schweitzer: 18.98%
John Hickenlooper: 9.66%



Super Tuesday Delegates (So Far):
Andrew Cuomo: 552
Mark Warner: 215
Brian Schweitzer: 125
John Hickenlooper: 22

"Andrew Cuomo, even with a rush of Mark Warner wins, hold his lead of over THREE HUNDRED delegates over his opponents. After tonight, unless a major scandal involving all three candidates pops up, Hickenlooper is an unhappy camper. He needs to pack up and go at this point because he's finished with only 22 delegates. What little returns we are getting from states where he was supposed to be favorable in are looking worse as they come in, so ultimately his candidacy is finished, and its just a matter of time before Schweitzer, or even strong contender Warner, get knocked out of this race." - Brit Hume
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« Reply #78 on: October 16, 2012, 04:06:43 PM »

Super Tuesday, Part 3:



"Some more results are coming in, and just when things looked bad for Hickenlooper, they just got worse. While he picked up three states (Colorado, Arizona, and New Mexico), he lost two states he thought he was going to win tonight: Schweitzer swipes Kansas, and Cuomo swipes Utah. Brian Schweitzer also wins North Dakota, which isn't a huge shock considering its a caucus states, and he's been working up a Ron Paul-esqe strategy to swipe those kinds of states. Finally, we get results from both Missouri and Georgia, with Missouri heading towards Warner's direction and Georgia, shocking every pundit, goes to Cuomo!" - Wolf Blitzer



Colorado:
John Hickenlooper: 52.82%
Brian Schweitzer: 35.43%
Mark Warner: 9.34%
Andrew Cuomo: 2.41%

New Mexico:
John Hickenlooper: 44.82%
Brian Schweitzer: 27.34%
Mark Warner: 18.83%
Andrew Cuomo: 9.01%

Arizona:
John Hickenlooper: 38.21%
Brian Schweitzer: 25.45%
Mark Warner: 22.82%
Andrew Cuomo: 13.52%



North Dakota:
Brian Schweitzer: 49.24%
John Hickenlooper: 22.21%
Andrew Cuomo: 15.58%
Mark Warner: 12.97%

Kansas:
Brian Schweitzer: 30.45%
John Hickenlooper: 27.02%
Mark Warner: 26.73%
Andrew Cuomo: 15.80%



Utah:
Andrew Cuomo: 29.89%
John Hickenlooper: 27.32%
Brian Schweitzer: 26.21%
Mark Warner: 16.58%

Georgia:
Andrew Cuomo: 42.21%
Mark Warner: 41.98%
Brian Schweitzer: 10.23%
John Hickenlooper: 5.58%



Missouri:
Mark Warner: 36.65%
Andrew Cuomo: 35.12%
Brian Schweitzer: 18.52%
John Hickenlooper: 9.71%



Super Tuesday Delegates (So Far):
Andrew Cuomo: 642
Mark Warner: 316
Brian Schweitzer: 203
John Hickenlooper: 120

"While losing two of the states he was expected to pick off, there are rumors that Hickenlooper is planning his withdraw speech ALREADY, and the Idaho primary hasn't even been finished counting yet. It's certainly no surprise, before Super Tuesday, he was in last place, and after Super Tuesday that's exactly where it seems he will end up: far away from the nomination. Dropping the serious race down to three contenders, whom Governor Cuomo will go after with a fervor." - John King
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« Reply #79 on: October 16, 2012, 05:06:57 PM »
« Edited: October 16, 2012, 05:38:57 PM by ConservativeLiberal »

Finally Over, Super Tuesday



"Cuomo's big night ends with a bang: California goes to him by double digits, and he takes Idaho by draining points from a sinking Hickenlooper. Alaska goes to Schweitzer by a large margin, but it doesn't carry him much, because its Alaska."



California:
Andrew Cuomo: 42.25%
Mark Warner: 28.43%
Brian Schweitzer: 18.35%
John Hickenlooper: 10.96%

Idaho:
Andrew Cuomo: 38.45%
Brian Schweitzer: 34.82%
John Hickenlooper: 25.43%
Mark Warner: 1.30%



Alaska:
Brian Schweitzer: 41.81%
Andrew Cuomo: 31.82%
John Hickenlooper: 16.21%
Mark Warner: 9.16%



Super Tuesday Delegates:
Andrew Cuomo: 850
Mark Warner: 421
Brian Schweitzer: 284
John Hickenlooper: 127

Andrew Cuomo wins Super Tuesday!



"It looks like the people chose us, as we march our way towards the nomination!"



Overall Delegates:
Andrew Cuomo: 1009
Mark Warner: 558
Brian Schweitzer: 392
John Hickenlooper: 174

John Hickenlooper drops out, endorses Governor Cuomo



"Before this campaign, I didn't even think of myself as Presidential material. I wanted to see if the people would even consider me, and for a while they did. However, I've made it to the big leagues, and it turns out I'm not quite ready. There for I will not be continuing my campaign for the presidency, and will endorse Governor Andrew Cuomo, the very qualified Governor of New York, for President of the United States."

"After Super Tuesday, reality gets clearer: Andrew Cuomo is the nominee. The only state that is out of the margin of error where Cuomo is losing is Nebraska, which is very much in Schweitzer territory and even THAT is in the single digits. Even Warner's home of Virginia, a state where Warner's approval is in the high 50s and sometimes even the 60s with everyone in the state, he is within a four point margin of error of LOSING the state." - Chris Matthews

National Polls:
Andrew Cuomo: 50%
Mark Warner: 28%
Brian Schweitzer: 17%
Undecided: 5%

Louisana:
Andrew Cuomo: 42%
Mark Warner: 40%
Brian Schweitzer: 10%
Undecided: 8%

Nebraska:
Brian Schweitzer: 43%
Andrew Cuomo: 38%
Mark Warner: 9%
Undecided: 10%

Washington:
Andrew Cuomo: 50%
Brian Schweitzer: 33%
Mark Warner: 6%
Undecided: 11%

Maine:
Andrew Cuomo: 60%
Brian Schweitzer: 25%
Mark Warner: 5%
Undecided: 10%

D.C:
Andrew Cuomo: 94%
Undecided: 6%

Maryland:
Andrew Cuomo: 55%
Mark Warner: 26%
Brian Schweitzer: 11%
Undecided: 8%

Virginia:
Mark Warner: 45%
Andrew Cuomo: 41%
Brian Schweitzer: 9%
Undecided: 5%

National Poll w/ Cuomo:
Jon Huntsman: 50%
Andrew Cuomo: 42%
Undecided: 8%

National Poll w/Warner:
Jon Huntsman: 52%
Mark Warner: 39%
Undecided: 9%

National Poll w/Schweitzer:
Jon Huntsman: 50%
Brian Schweitzer: 36%
Undecided: 14%

Jon Huntsman Approval Rating:
Approve: 58%
Disapprove: 35%
Not Sure: 7%

Andrew Cuomo Approval Rating:
Approve: 43%
Disapprove: 44%
Not Sure: 13%

Mark Warner Approval Rating:
Approve: 35%
Disapprove: 40%
Not Sure: 25%

Brian Schweitzer Approval Rating:
Approve: 34%
Disapprove: 28%
Not Sure: 38%
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« Reply #80 on: October 16, 2012, 07:29:56 PM »
« Edited: October 16, 2012, 07:32:18 PM by ConservativeLiberal »

A Field Empties Rather Quickly After A Couple of Days

Day One:

Andrew Cuomo is continuing his winning streak, sweeping all three primaries!



Louisana:
Andrew Cuomo: 45.34%
Mark Warner: 42.82%
Brian Schweitzer: 11.84%

Washington:
Andrew Cuomo: 52.82%
Brian Schweitzer: 34.85%
Mark Warner: 12.33%

Nebraska:
Andrew Cuomo: 42.84%
Brian Schweitzer: 42.23%
Mark Warner: 14.93%

Overall Delegates:
Andrew Cuomo: 1106
Mark Warner: 582
Brian Schweitzer: 429
Unallocated: 174

"Andrew Cuomo keeps making his nomination more and more inevitable, but his oponents still won't let up..."

National Poll:
Andrew Cuomo: 57%
Mark Warner: 23%
Brian Schweitzer: 16%
Undecided: 4%

Viriginia:
Andrew Cuomo: 42%
Mark Warner: 41%
Brian Schweitzer: 12%
Undecided: 5%


Wisconsin:
Brian Schweitzer: 45%
Andrew Cuomo: 44%
Mark Warner: 6%
Undecided: 5%

Day 2:

Cuomo sweeps Maine in the upper 60s!

Maine:
Andrew Cuomo: 65.43%
Brian Schweitzer: 29.45%
Mark Warner: 5.12%


Brian Schweitzer quickly re-evaluates campaign, and decides to put it all down on the line in Wisconsin, where he leads by one point in one recent poll!



Day 4: Triplets Again

Andrew Cuomo sweeps three primaries again, Warner withdraws and endorses Cuomo after a devastating loss in his home state.

D.C.:
Andrew Cuomo: 96.84%
Brian Schweitzer: 2.16%
Mark Warner: 1.00%

Maryland:
Andrew Cuomo: 55.85%
Mark Warner: 30.84%
Brian Schweitzer: 13.31%

Virginia:
Andrew Cuomo: 45.43%
Mark Warner: 44.82%
Brian Schweitzer: 9.75%

Overall Delegates:
Andrew Cuomo: 1223
Mark Warner: 640
Brian Schweitzer: 436
Unallocated: 174



"The people have spoken, so I will now be shutting down my campaign and endorsing the nominee, who is a strong leader and will bring this country forward even more!

National Poll:
Andrew Cuomo: 70%
Brian Schweitzer: 25%
Undecided: 5%

Wisconsin:
Andrew Cuomo: 54%
Brian Schweitzer: 43%
Undecided: 3%

Day 11: The Final Day

Cuomo sweeps again, taking Hawaii by a landslide, and beating Schweitzer in Wisconsin, causing him to withdraw from the ballot from every state but his home!

Hawaii:
Andrew Cuomo: 84.22%
Brian Schweitzer: 15.78%

Wisconsin:
Andrew Cuomo: 53.84%
Brian Schweitzer: 46.16%

Overall Delegates:
Andrew Cuomo: 1280
Brian Schweitzer: 473
Unallocated: 814



"I am ready to withdraw my campaign. However, I will remain my states favorite son, so I will withdraw from the ballot from the rest of the nation EXCEPT for my home of Montana, because I love it so dearly. I will, however, endorse the nominee, who, like me, has executive experience that our country needs."



Andrew Cuomo is the Democratic Nominee!



National Polls:
Jon Huntsman: 52%
Andrew Cuomo: 42%
Undecided: 6%
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« Reply #81 on: October 17, 2012, 05:00:14 PM »

Difficulty as the Nominee: Starting Rough

President Huntsman Approval: 58%
National Debt: $12 Trillion
Unemployment: 4.4%

National Polls:
Jon Huntsman: 52%
Andrew Cuomo: 40%
Undecided: 8%

National Polls w/ Third Parties:
Jon Huntsman (R): 49%
Andrew Cuomo (D): 38%
Allen West (C): 5%
Rocky Anderson (J): 2%
Jill Stein (G): ~0%
Undecided: 6%







"This is going to be a tough race for Cuomo to win. Not only does he lose, albeit closely, when the swing states are all toss-ups, but when it comes down to raw numbers, Cuomo barely crosses 200. The map is seriously on the side of the President, who polls very strongly in states where he isn't generally favorable. However, Cuomo does flip some states back to the democratic corner right away due to his appeal with New Englanders, which means he picks New Jersey and Connecticut up already, both states that Obama lost. What holds in the balance is whether or not Governor Cuomo can overcome the strong standard of this adminstration." - Chris Matthews

Possible Vice Presidential Choices:
Mark Warner, Senator of Virginia
Brian Schweitzer, Former Governor of Montana
Cory Booker, Senator of New Jersey
Charlie Crist, Governor of Florida
Deval Patrick, Former Governor of Massachussets
Amy Klobachar, Senator of Minnesota
Mark Udall, Senator of Colorado
Tom Udall, Senator of New Mexico
Kay Hagan, Senator of North Carolina



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« Reply #82 on: October 18, 2012, 07:37:53 PM »

Andrew Cuomo picks Amy Klobuchar for VP!





"I picked someone who differs from my ideas to some extent, but to another agrees with the way we have to about things. Someone with different experience, but an experience, nevertheless, that would help us govern efficiently and effectively. Therefore, I have selected Amy Klobuchar, the Senator from Minnesota, as my running mate!" - Andrew Cuomo

"Thank you Andrew, and I am absolutely honored by the privileged to run with you. We may have some differences, but our mission is clear: we have to change America. President Huntsman may have gone in the right direction on a few issues, but that's not nearly enough. We can't merely be pointing towards a good place, we have to make it there, and that Cuomo/Klobuchar represents! - Amy Klobuchar

"This is a shocking pick. Many were expecting Mark Warner, thinking that he shared the experiences of Cuomo while also holding a different set of powers and already had a set base in order to run down Cuomo's margins in the south. Others were thinking Schweitzer would really help in Mountain states, but not necessarily enough to help Cuomo win them. With the pick of Klobuchar, the toss-up of Minnesota now goes Democratic again, no chance for President Huntsman to make his mark. Also the polling Wisconsin is effected. From the looks of it so far, this is a smart pick, and while it doesn't put the President in jeopardy yet, the polling numbers are looking more and more favorable to the Democratic ticket everyday." - Chris Matthews

National Polls w/o 3rd:
Jon Huntsman/Rand Paul: 50%
Andrew Cuomo/Amy Klobuchar: 44%
Undecided: 6%

National Polls w/ 3rd:
Jon Huntsman/Rand Paul (R): 46%
Andrew Cuomo/Amy Klobuchar (D): 42%
Allen West/Trent Franks (C): 5%
Rocky Anderson/Keith Ellison (J): 3%
Undecided: 4%







"And so the campaign trail begins again... doesn't seem like it'll be as rough as last time. It seems as if my opponents want a challenge, well, as the saying goes, bring it on! - President Jon Huntsman, in the state of Michigan, a critical state for his re-election.



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« Reply #83 on: October 19, 2012, 07:56:01 PM »

Awesome stuff man
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« Reply #84 on: October 19, 2012, 08:40:59 PM »

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« Reply #85 on: October 20, 2012, 03:23:13 AM »

Unemployment dips below 4% for the first time since the sixties before the Conventions!

Unemployment rate: 3.9%
National Debt: 11.95 Trillion
Budget Surplus: $950 Billion



"Look, we just did something that no president has done since Lyndon Baines Johnson has done: We have unemployment below 4%. Now, don't pin that on my expertise, as much as i'd like to take credit. Credit, instead, the businesses. This is proof of how free markets change things for regular Americans." - President Huntsman



"We didn't do it, American innovation did it! But as President Huntsman said, it was the free market that made it happen! Do you want to go back to policies that, linger and hinder the free market? That's Bushonomics and Obamanomics and nobody wants to go back to those dark days!

"Something devastating for the democrats came out today: the jobs reports. It continues to show a very strong trend in the economy, which is helping to turn around the National Debt, and we've had a budget surplus for three years straight. Nobody said it was going to get easy to run against President Huntsman, but it just got a lot harder, with Cuomo's numbers dropping rapidly. That and Cuomo's personal unlikability among all voters is causing damage to his competent leader angle, flailing much in the way of Michael Dukakis." - Chris Matthews

National Polls w/o 3rd Parties:
President Jon Huntsman: 55%
Governor Andrew Cuomo: 38%
Undecided: 7%

National Polls w/ 3rd Parties:
President Jon Huntsman: 53%
Governor Andrew Cuomo: 35%
Former Mayor Rocky Anderson: 4%
Former Congressman Allen West: 3%
Undecided: 5%

Job Approval:
Jon Huntsman: 62/35/3
Rand Paul: 54/44/2

Favorables:
Andrew Cuomo: 38/51/11
Amy Klobuchar: 42/28/30
Allen West: 5/55/40
Rocky Anderson: 8/5/87

"There are also some odd reports out. There are reports of Rocky Anderson making a strong campaign effort in one state. He is making his one stand in the state of Vermont, where his campaign his heavily stationed. He campaigns around the nation, but in that one state, he is making serious headway. Not only that, but he is also making actual headway in the state. In the last poll in Vermont, Rocky Anderson was in third... with 20% of the vote. The endorsement of Bernie Sanders and the huge dislike among liberals of Andrew Cuomo is starting to seep in in a big way in the state, in what could turn out to be a stronger than expected run for Mr. Anderson." - Rachel Maddow

Vermont:
Andrew Cuomo: 38%
Jon Huntsman: 34%
Rocky Anderson: 20%
Undecided: 8%



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« Reply #86 on: October 20, 2012, 09:19:28 AM »

Go, Rocky, go!!!

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« Reply #87 on: October 20, 2012, 01:27:34 PM »
« Edited: October 20, 2012, 04:15:54 PM by Republican Johnson »

Democratic National Convention


Keynote Speaker Cory Booker, Senator from New Jersey


"This president does not understand some of the issues that are going on in America: He has repealed the health care law that would've helped so many, he's fought unions around the nation, and he standing silent as the far fringes of the GOP has come to reap their ugly heads and violate womens rights. We as a nation will not stand for it anymore. The Andrew Cuomo I know is a fighter, a leader, a Commander in Chief. Someone who doesn't idly stand by and let things happen, like President Huntsman has on a wide array of issues. His policies hurt the American family in many ways and we won't allow four more years of it!"

Brian Schweitzer, Former Governor of Montana and Democratic Nominee for Special Senate Election in Montana after Max Baucus' retirement.



"President Huntsmans an honorable man, but he doesn't stand up. He doesn't stand up to the big bankers, he doesn't stand up for universal health care, and he doesn't stand up for you. Why should you make the effort, then, to stand up for him by voting for him? You shouldn't.

Gavin Newsom, Democratic Nominee for Senator of California



"My old friend Jerry Brown once said 'Inaction may be the best form of Action'. Well, we all make mistakes, right? Well, Apparently not, because that's what President Huntsman believes. He believes if we just we leave everything alone, it will be okay. Well, let me tell you something entirely different: how about we make the effort, how about we change the country. Huntsman has been taking us back, back to days where we could crash at any moment. Well, we don't want those days. We want today! We want tomorrow! We want the future!"

"The Democrats, once again, have a very strong convention, hammering Huntsman lack of action. The question is, will it work, in spite of the success the administration has seen over the past couple of years? Only time will tell." - Chris Matthews

National Poll w/o Third Parties:
Jon Huntsman: 49%
Andrew Cuomo: 45%
Undecided: 6%

National Poll w/ Third Parties:
Jon Huntsman: 48%
Andrew Cuomo: 41%
Rocky Anderson: 5%
Allen West: 2%
Undecided: 4%

Vermont:
Jon Huntsman: 33%
Rocky Anderson: 28%
Andrew Cuomo: 27%
Undecided: 12%

Early 2020 Presidential Polling Democrats:
Senator Cory Booker: 24%
Lieutenant Governor Gavin Newsom: 20%
Former Governor Brian Schweitzer: 11%
Senator Mark Begich: 8%
Governor Peter Schumlin: 5%
Others: 5%
Undecided: 27%

Early 2020 Presidential Polling Republicans:
Vice President Rand Paul: 20%
Governor Paul Ryan: 19%
Senator Ted Cruz: 10%
Senator Jeff Flake: 5%
Governor Rob McKenna: 3%
Governor Mike Pence: 2%
Senator Marco Rubio: 1%
Others: 5%
Undecided: 35%
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« Reply #88 on: October 20, 2012, 02:40:01 PM »

1996 anyone?
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« Reply #89 on: October 20, 2012, 02:51:02 PM »


haha that does seem to be the trend of this election. The republicans get their Clinton I guess.
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« Reply #90 on: October 20, 2012, 04:27:59 PM »
« Edited: October 20, 2012, 04:29:43 PM by Republican Johnson »

Rocky Anderson included in the debates!



"Two-time Justice Party Candidate and current front-runner in the state of Vermont and strong place holder in Hawaii has now made his strongest stand yet: He has made it to the debates. With the endorsement of Bernie Sanders, Buddy Roemer, John Anderson, and Elizabeth Warren, he has pushed to the favor of many liberal democrats and has no garnered as much as 5% in the polls, which he has argued is enough considering Santorum got into the debates with as low support as 4%. While the debate committee initially refused, they kept pushing and eventually the Justice Party nominee has made it. However, the flailing campaign of Constitution Party Nominee Allen West, who might be the most dis-liked person in the campaign including Andrew Cuomo, has proven itself unable to get into the debates, and has now dropped as low as 1% in the polls, leading many to speculate that he won't be able to even get that much as election time comes." - Chris Matthews

National Polls :
Jon Huntsman: 50%
Andrew Cuomo: 41%
Rocky Anderson: 5%
Undecided: 4%

Vermont:
Rocky Anderson: 33%
Jon Huntsman: 32%
Andrew Cuomo: 25%
Undecided: 10%

Hawaii:
Jon Huntsman: 35%
Andrew Cuomo: 32%
Rocky Anderson: 19%
Undecided: 14%

Colorado:
Jon Huntsman: 48%
Andrew Cuomo: 35%
Rocky Anderson: 10%
Undecided: 7%

Utah:
Jon Huntsman: 80%
Rocky Anderson: 9%
Andrew Cuomo: 4%
Undecided: 7%
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« Reply #91 on: October 21, 2012, 03:47:22 PM »

Keep it up!! Go Huntsman!!!
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« Reply #92 on: October 23, 2012, 04:43:24 PM »
« Edited: October 23, 2012, 04:46:03 PM by Republican Johnson »

Election Day

"The debates were fairly stagnant, albeit somewhat helpful to Governor Cuomo and his likability, but otherwise, the lead for Huntsman, like most of the election, was too much for him to overcome. Rocky Anderson did not deliver enough of a knock out punch to change what was going for him before, so while he won Vermont and got over 20% in Hawaii and over 30% in D.C., he was stuck everywhere else, getting in the 10%'s in Colorado, Utah (all in the Salt Lake City Area), Rhode Island, California, and Alaska. Everywhere else he got low single digits. Nevertheless, its a very strong third party run, and we might some Justice Party movement in the future." - Wolf Blitzer



President Jon Huntsman/Vice President Rand Paul 50.21% -323 Electors
Governor Andrew Cuomo/Senator Amy Klobuchar 44.23% - 212 Electors
Former Mayor Rocky Anderson/Former Congressman Keith Ellison 4.53% - 3 Electors
Former Congressman Allen West/Former Congressman Steve King 0.51% - 0 Electors

"President Huntsman won more of the popular vote, but in a rare occurance, he won less of the electorals. This is the first time since Woodrow Wilson since this has happened. Now there is a reason for that: he came up against a candidate who opposed the ideas of the previous adminstration. Even though things are going well, we still live in a divided country, so it was obvious that Cuomo, should he run a decent campaign, would do better than the low low approval ratings Obama did when he ran."  - Wolf Blitzer
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« Reply #93 on: October 23, 2012, 04:44:56 PM »

I know I haven't commented before but this is some really great stuff.
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« Reply #94 on: October 23, 2012, 05:32:22 PM »

Weird seeing the new Justice Party overshadow the Green Party so quickly.
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« Reply #95 on: October 23, 2012, 07:26:23 PM »

Weird seeing the new Justice Party overshadow the Green Party so quickly.

The issue of campaign fiance reform started growning, and with the nomination of Andrew Cuomo, it became rather clear rather quickly that the Democrats weren't going to work towards  that, and Rocky Anderson took full advantage. Plus, the Green Party completely disappeared during 2012, and their establishment kind of faded to the Justice Party, while the Constitution Party faded due to the nomination of Allen West.
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« Reply #96 on: October 23, 2012, 07:59:02 PM »

2020 Election:

President Jon Huntsman

Highest Approval: 75% (Unemployment hit 3.5% in 2017)
Lowest Approval: 48% (Wall Street crashes, Unemployment goes up to 5% in 2019)

National Debt: $10.8 Trillion
Unemployment: 5.2%

Current Approval: 59%

Democratic Primary Challengers:
Senator of New Jersey Cory Booker: 24%
Senator of Massachusetts Elizabeth Warren: 20%
Senator of Alaska Mark Begich: 12%
Governor of Vermont Peter Schumlin: 10%
Senator of California Gavin Newsom: 6%
Senator of Colorado Mark Udall: 3%
Governor of Florida Charlie Crist: 2%
Senator of Hawaii Mazie Hirono: 2%
Congressman of Maryland Steny Hoyer: 1%
Undecided: 20%

Republican Primary Challengers:
Governor of Wisconsin Paul Ryan: 22%
Vice President Rand Paul: 20%
Senator of Arizona Jeff Flake: 13%
Former Governor of Washington Rob McKenna: 9%
Congressman of Georgia Herman Cain: 6%
Senator of Tennessee Bob Corker: 4%
Former Senator of South Carolina Jim Demint: 3%
Congressman of Alaska Don Young: 1%
Majority Leader Mitch McConnell: 1%
Undecided: 21%

"The fields are both looking very similar: there is a lack of clarity in the field, but ultimately there are two front-runners in each case. For the democrats, it's Cory Booker vs. Elizabeth Warren. While Elizabeth Warren fumbled in the ball in her first campaign, liberals are happy to put her up again due to her rise as she swiped the Senate seat of John Kerry, as Massachusetts wasn't ready for two Republican senators.  Her position doesn't look as solid as Senator Bookers though: Mark Begich has been running a very retail campaign in Iowa, where the enthusiasm for him is very strong, while Governor Schumlin has a very strong home field advantage in New Hampshire. Although Newsom's stock has sunk a bit since the last time we looked at the polls, don't quite count him out as done yet: he's still a contender in big states. On the Republican side its mostly between Governor Ryan and Vice President Paul, where their differences are stark and many. Don't count out Jeff Flake, Rob Mckenna (whose New Hampshire operation is very strong), or Herman Cain, as a big turn in the race could change it for them. A shocking blow is Bob Corker: Corker was expected to be "next in line" kind of dark horse candidate, but he hasn't lead in any state, even his home state of Tennessee, where he trails Rand Paul and Herman Cain by ten points. It looks like the heat is turning on who is going to be the next President of the United States."
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« Reply #97 on: October 23, 2012, 11:43:52 PM »
« Edited: October 23, 2012, 11:46:46 PM by Republican Johnson »

Sandoval In, Young Out

Ames Straw Poll:
Jim Demint: 30%
Jeff Flake: 18%
Herman Cain: 16%
Rand Paul: 9%
Paul Ryan: 8%
Don Young: 7%
Brian Sandoval: 6%
Bob Corker: 4%
Mitch McConnell: 1%
Rob McKenna: 1%



"The media pundits didn't see us coming, now did they? We will be making a huge effect on the election and moving forward!"



"We performed strongly, and we will continue to do so throughout the election."



"6% of the vote on a write-in? I guess that's a clear enough sign! I'm entering the Presidential Race for the Republican Nomination!"



"I will not continue my run for the presidency, as I see no path forward. Instead, I will be endorsing Governor Paul Ryan, because he has the plan and the experience to keep this country moving in the right direction."

Republican Primary Polling:
Vice President Rand Paul: 20%
Governor Paul Ryan: 20%
Senator Jeff Flake: 12%
Former Senator Jim Demint: 10%
Governor Rob McKenna: 7%
Former Governor Brian Sandoval: 6%
Congressman Herman Cain: 5%
Senator Bob Corker: 3%
Majority Leader Mitch McConnell: 2%
Undecided: 15%

"Demint, from the last poll, has gained a total of seven points, so he is surging on a massive level. Rand Paul, whose father Ron Paul was a master of straw polls, did rather poorly, but expectantly since he didn't through any resources into the state. Brian Sandoval makes a very strong entrance into the polls at 6%, and taking out Don Young, who had the highest unfavorables of any candidate in the race.  He certainly cuts into Rob McKenna's market a bit, but how will his run effect in the long-run." - Chris Wallace

Amy Klobuchar enters the race!



Democratic Primary Polling:
Senator Cory Booker: 22%
Senator Amy Klobuchar: 15%
Senator Mark Begich: 13%
Senator Elizabeth Warren: 10%
Governor Peter Schumlin: 9%
Senator Gavin Newsom: 5%
Governor Charlie Crist: 4%
Senator Mark Udall: 2%
Senator Mazie Hirono: 1%
Congressman Steny Hoyer: 1%
Undecided: 18%

"This news has shifted the Democratic race in a dramatic way. Recently, due to controversies, Elizabeth Warren has fallen back, and the Democratic Party had been looking for the non-Booker candidate. They have now found that candidate in Former Vice Presidential candidate and Senator from Minnesota Amy Klobuchar, who is a safe bet compared to the Mark Begich, who favors free market solutions in terms of oil and a list of other issues, Peter Schumlin, who just isn't known anywhere, or Gavin Newsom, who has led a very uninspiring campaign and isn't trusted well by the Democrats." - Chris Wallace
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« Reply #98 on: October 23, 2012, 11:58:10 PM »

I know I haven't commented before but this is some really great stuff.
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« Reply #99 on: October 23, 2012, 11:59:35 PM »

This is awesome.  Just out of curiosity, was Lingle elected in 2012?  What's she up to?
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