Opinion of Jill Stein

[LiberalJunkie]

For me it's FF

[Goldwater]

HP.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Don't really mind her, but I probably agree with most of her views. So FF.

[Redalgo]

Easily a FF. My only big gripe is that she doesn't seem to love nuclear energy like I do.

[Platypus]

Anyone who can keep Roseanne away from the spotlight is a total FF.

But she'd be an FF anyway.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

FF, for the lack of a reason to be an HP, much like Claire McCaskill. I prefer Roseanne.

[Donerail]

FF; non-offensive and seems rather nice.

[Free Palestine]

FF

[TNF]

FF, a rarity for a Green Party candidate for the Presidency. It's a shame she believes the luddite bullsh**t about GM plants and nuclear power, though.

[Free Palestine]

FF, a rarity for a Green Party candidate for the Presidency. It's a shame she believes the luddite bullsh**t about GM plants and nuclear power, though.

I don't know about GM plants, but nuclear power really doesn't seem to me like the kind of issue that makes you worthy of being called an idiot if you disagree with it.  Things like wind and solar power are clearly preferable to nuclear power, which doesn't produce radioactive waste.  Also, if a wind turbine fails, it falls on some cows.  If a nuclear power plant fails, well...

So, honestly, I think you're overreacting about nuclear power.

[Grumpier Than Thou]

Neutral.

[Redalgo]

Things like wind and solar power are clearly preferable to nuclear power, which doesn't produce radioactive waste.  Also, if a wind turbine fails, it falls on some cows.  If a nuclear power plant fails, well...

The catch is neither wind nor solar are particularly reliable for putting out at their full capacity around the clock. Until tech for storage batteries improves this limitation will leave us in need of a more reliable source of baseload power. So far as I can tell, coal and nuclear are the only two energy options of that nature ready to go right now at a reasonable cost and - because I consider the whole "clean coal" pitch as little more than a PR campaign by the producers of fossil fuels to help them keep selling what they already make - nuclear stands out to me as the better choice. Provided we can someday start building reactors that run on thorium, the long-standing taboo about safety surrounding these power stations can be done away with and this form of energy could well become the mainstay of modern society - with fuel enough in the ground to last us for so long as to make current coal and oil reserves look insignificant. When Greens rally against nuclear power I cannot easily take much of their outlook on energy policy seriously anymore.

[dead0man]

FF on balance....but I don't understand how somebody can know how to read and be against GM crops.  It's just as nutty as not believing in evolution or a round earth.

[Bacon King]

HP, for a number of reasons related to me by a friend's friend who had the misfortune of meeting her personally.

[© tweed]

HP, for a number of reasons related to me by a friend's friend who had the misfortune of meeting her personally.

care to pass along the hearsay?

[Bacon King]

HP, for a number of reasons related to me by a friend's friend who had the misfortune of meeting her personally.

care to pass along the hearsay?

Directly copypasta'd from our facebook convo:

"I had the opportunity to see Jill speak at the occupation in charlotte this week and she is as full of sh**t as the rest of them. She uses people for her own political gain.

She walked into our encampment and did her press conference without ONCE acknowledging or directly addressing the occupiers there. She also slammed a door in the face of someone requesting food donations. She is a fraud."

(there was a bit more, detailing the manner Stein and her media team just suddenly barged in unexpectedly, trampled over everything, and and basically commandeered the place for the duration, but I can't find that message at the moment)

[© tweed]

you have a friend who protested the DNC?  cool

[Spanish Moss]

I'd answer, but I don't know what FF or HP stand for.

[Donerail]

I'd answer, but I don't know what FF or HP stand for.

Freedom Fighter and Horrible Person.

[Spanish Moss]

I'd answer, but I don't know what FF or HP stand for.

Freedom Fighter and Horrible Person.

Thanks :-)

Even if one disagrees with her running (I don't - I'm voting Stein/Honkala), I really see no evidence of her being a "horrible person."

[Redalgo]

I noticed in the extended debate from the other night she appeared to be a staunch believer in class struggle and conspiracy theories pertaining to members of the upper classes, the war in Iraq being primarily about oil, and had the same sort of cynicism and belligerent tone in her words on opponents as I remember from Dennis Kucinich. I am starting to get the impression that I agree with her on many issues but often reach those same policy prescriptions via very different lines of thought. Her negativity and at times militant vibe in general are, along with the aforementioned concerns, making me start to sympathize with dead0man's attitude here.

There is a very real chance I'll withdraw my support for her in favor of the Justice Party candidate by November.

[© tweed]

I noticed in the extended debate from the other night she appeared to be a staunch believer in class struggle and conspiracy theories pertaining to members of the upper classes, the war in Iraq being primarily about oil, and had the same sort of cynicism and belligerent tone in her words on opponents as I remember from Dennis Kucinich. I am starting to get the impression that I agree with her on many issues but often reach those same policy prescriptions via very different lines of thought. Her negativity and at times militant vibe in general are, along with the aforementioned concerns, making me start to sympathize with dead0man's attitude here.

There is a very real chance I'll withdraw my support for her in favor of the Justice Party candidate by November.

for God's sake my man, third party candidacies aren't about the candidate herself but about building the strength of an organization.

[Antonio the Sixth]

I noticed in the extended debate from the other night she appeared to be a staunch believer in class struggle and conspiracy theories pertaining to members of the upper classes, the war in Iraq being primarily about oil, and had the same sort of cynicism and belligerent tone in her words on opponents as I remember from Dennis Kucinich. I am starting to get the impression that I agree with her on many issues but often reach those same policy prescriptions via very different lines of thought. Her negativity and at times militant vibe in general are, along with the aforementioned concerns, making me start to sympathize with dead0man's attitude here.

There is a very real chance I'll withdraw my support for her in favor of the Justice Party candidate by November.

Vote for a candidate that has a chance to win.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

I noticed in the extended debate from the other night she appeared to be a staunch believer in class struggle and conspiracy theories pertaining to members of the upper classes, the war in Iraq being primarily about oil, and had the same sort of cynicism and belligerent tone in her words on opponents as I remember from Dennis Kucinich. I am starting to get the impression that I agree with her on many issues but often reach those same policy prescriptions via very different lines of thought. Her negativity and at times militant vibe in general are, along with the aforementioned concerns, making me start to sympathize with dead0man's attitude here.

There is a very real chance I'll withdraw my support for her in favor of the Justice Party candidate by November.

Vote for a candidate that has a chance to win.

Why?

[Donerail]

I noticed in the extended debate from the other night she appeared to be a staunch believer in class struggle and conspiracy theories pertaining to members of the upper classes, the war in Iraq being primarily about oil, and had the same sort of cynicism and belligerent tone in her words on opponents as I remember from Dennis Kucinich. I am starting to get the impression that I agree with her on many issues but often reach those same policy prescriptions via very different lines of thought. Her negativity and at times militant vibe in general are, along with the aforementioned concerns, making me start to sympathize with dead0man's attitude here.

There is a very real chance I'll withdraw my support for her in favor of the Justice Party candidate by November.

Vote for a candidate that has a chance to win.

So vote for Stein or Johnson.