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« on: September 23, 2012, 06:18:01 PM »
« edited: September 23, 2012, 08:47:34 PM by pa2011 »

No link yet, but PPP said Obama has gained 3 points since Labor Day.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/09/obama-leads-by-4-in-florida.html
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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2012, 06:18:48 PM »

That 50 number is always scary...
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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2012, 06:21:00 PM »

No link yet, but PPP said Obama has gained 3 points since Labor Day.
A net three points, that would be. Their previous poll, 8/31-9/2, had Obama up 48-47, so Obama's up two, Romney down one.
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« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2012, 06:23:24 PM »

Yikes, we are approaching the danger zone for Mitt.
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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2012, 06:30:28 PM »

Yikes, we are approaching the danger zone for Mitt.

I had to post this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8rZWw9HE7o
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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2012, 06:31:20 PM »

Further PPP tweet:

Romney's net favorability in Florida has dropped 9 points in the last three weeks.
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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2012, 06:41:28 PM »

The effective campaign.
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« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2012, 06:46:30 PM »

Yes, Florida is Lean Obama. That's been clear for a while now.
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« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2012, 06:48:59 PM »

Looking good...
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« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2012, 06:49:30 PM »

Why the f*** didn't Romney pick Rubio?
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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2012, 06:50:17 PM »

Because with the Ryan selection, he's now unstoppable in Wisconsin. Oh, wait...
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« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2012, 07:00:08 PM »

...and thus picking Rubio may have been useless..
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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2012, 07:09:04 PM »

...and thus picking Rubio may have been useless..

A state-elected official will have more appeal than somebody who was elected and represents only 1/8 of their state. There is a reason Congressmen are rarely picked. They do not bring any real bumps to the ticket in the home-state and should only be picked to beef up some quality that the candidate lacks (see GWB picking Cheney).
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« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2012, 07:12:11 PM »

Not good for Romney.  It would be a much more powerful blow if it was someone other than PPP reporting it, though...
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« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2012, 07:15:42 PM »

Not good for Romney.  It would be a much more powerful blow if it was someone other than PPP reporting it, though...

PPP has had some of the most pro-Romney numbers of anyone lately, especially if you're not counting the Republican pollsters like Rasmussen.
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« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2012, 07:24:24 PM »

More and more polls come out with Obama over 50, like has been happening for the last week or so, and the "Obama is below 50" line will also have to be removed from the GOP talking points.

Not that being below 50 at this point has any significance.
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« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2012, 07:29:24 PM »

Some of the  numbers are a little off. I think Obama wins the Hispanic vote by much more than 2 here but probably doesn't do as well with whites as the poll suggests. The final numbers seem legit because those things likely cancel each other.
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« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2012, 07:35:39 PM »

The internal numbers are very strong for Obama: 51% approve of him, and 4% more Democrats are "very excited" to vote than Republicans.
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« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2012, 07:54:52 PM »

...and thus picking Rubio may have been useless..

A state-elected official will have more appeal than somebody who was elected and represents only 1/8 of their state. There is a reason Congressmen are rarely picked. They do not bring any real bumps to the ticket in the home-state and should only be picked to beef up some quality that the candidate lacks (see GWB picking Cheney).

I'm pretty sure Bush picked Cheney in the latter's capacity as former Secretary of Defense, not former Congressman from Wyoming or even former House Minority Whip.
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« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2012, 07:58:44 PM »

Romney is up 53-45 with seniors, which is lower than I'd think, but its exactly what McCain got as well.
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« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2012, 08:18:26 PM »

I think the reason why PPP is favoring Dems less than usual is because of the gap between polls that include cell phones and those that don't.  (automated polls can't poll cell phones, which makes them lean Republican slightly compared to live interview polls)

Horserace numbers aside, Romney's crash in favorables is pretty much deadly.
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« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2012, 09:01:26 PM »

Total push poll.  Funny they didn't ask "Are you aware that Obama has not attended 57% of daily intel briefings?"
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« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2012, 09:05:40 PM »

Do you even know what a push poll is?
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« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2012, 10:09:40 PM »

...and thus picking Rubio may have been useless..

A state-elected official will have more appeal than somebody who was elected and represents only 1/8 of their state. There is a reason Congressmen are rarely picked. They do not bring any real bumps to the ticket in the home-state and should only be picked to beef up some quality that the candidate lacks (see GWB picking Cheney).

Another is that Congressional Representatives have never won statewide elections, except in at-large states that are almost never microcosms of America. For much the same reason, big-city mayors are almost never selected for VPs even if they have administrative experience.  If they don't know how to run a statewide race for Governor or the US Senate, then they don't know how to run for President. 

Selling people on political change is rare in the House... but in the Senate or in State Houses, politicians can hone that skill to maximal sharpness.
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« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2012, 10:22:31 PM »

Not good for Romney.  It would be a much more powerful blow if it was someone other than PPP reporting it, though...

The Fox News Poll from a few days ago had Obama +5.
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