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« on: September 24, 2012, 12:18:52 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2012, 05:55:51 AM »

The basic point -- border security is more important than a Security Council seat -- has merit, but the way that was put was just wrong.
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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2012, 06:41:25 AM »

The basic point -- border security is more important than a Security Council seat -- has merit, but the way that was put was just wrong.

No, Abbott knows he's slipping and it's desperately grasping at straws.
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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2012, 08:48:58 AM »

The seat would be very worthwhile if it wasn't going to end up representing an Abbott government. As it is, whilst we deserve it, i'm not as 100% behind it as I was.

Also, any time Abbott opens his mouth on asylum seekers (not an issue of border security, btw) I feel slightly more disgust in him.
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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2012, 04:02:30 PM »

In other news, Tony Abbott has called for a federal election.
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« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2012, 01:02:42 AM »

He'd probably win it, and I think Smid's suggested the earliest date for Senate reasons would be late March, right?
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« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2012, 01:39:37 AM »

He'd probably win it, and I think Smid's suggested the earliest date for Senate reasons would be late March, right?

I think later than March - I think second half of next year, depending on what goodies can be dished out in the budget (which would kick in from 1 July). Antony Green wrote a great piece recently about why an early election is not necessarily in Abbott's best interest. There are certainly Constitutional constraints about when an election can be held. A half-Senate election cannot be held until the final twelve months of a Senate term. According to Antony Green, the earliest date a normal General Election, with a half-Senate election, is 3 August 2013. Anything earlier would have to be House only, or a Double Dissolution.
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« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2012, 06:35:24 PM »

Yeah... I've heard rumbles about Gillard pushing the button if she gets a consistent lead....


But even IF she had to go early with a Senate election in June 2014, she'd have two years with a majority and a friendly Senate... so it's not exactly an insane concept. We're preparing for an election being calling from late October on.
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