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« on: September 24, 2012, 12:48:30 am »

860 likely voters online, September 21 and 22, margin of sampling error of +/-3.4 percentage points:

49-41 Obama/Romney

49-40-2-2-1 Obama/Romney/Johnson/Stein/Goode

Sample: 37% DEM, 34% GOP, 29% IND

http://www.jzanalytics.com/DATA/Crosstabs_Voters_2way_and_5way_horserace_092112
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« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2012, 12:55:18 am »

So Zogby's faking numbers that are close enough to the consensus to look legit, but far enough away to seem newsworthy? Clever!
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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2012, 01:08:30 am »

In before Kalwejt.

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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2012, 01:54:55 am »

So Zogby's faking numbers that are close enough to the consensus to look legit, but far enough away to seem newsworthy? Clever!
Haha not bad.

This isn't even newsworthy.
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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2012, 02:04:01 am »

So Zogby's faking numbers that are close enough to the consensus to look legit, but far enough away to seem newsworthy? Clever!
Haha not bad.

This isn't even newsworthy.

Of course it's not, but Zogby might think it is.
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« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2012, 05:21:33 am »

ogby: National: President:

Obama/Romney: 49/40.7
my numbers: Romney/Obama: 47/46.8

http://www.jzanalytics.com/DATA/Crosstabs_Voters_2way_and_5way_horserace_092112

Shut up!!!
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« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2012, 05:24:27 am »

ogby: National: President:

Obama/Romney: 49/40.7
my numbers: Romney/Obama: 47/46.8

http://www.jzanalytics.com/DATA/Crosstabs_Voters_2way_and_5way_horserace_092112

What has to happen to make you stop!
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« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2012, 05:51:07 am »

ogby: National: President:

Obama/Romney: 49/40.7
my numbers: Romney/Obama: 47/46.8

http://www.jzanalytics.com/DATA/Crosstabs_Voters_2way_and_5way_horserace_092112

1) Shut up.

2) Interesting. The poll is only D+3, while other pollster expect a D+4 to D+6 turnout. And still, you think this poll is such dem-biased that Romney is leading. Hahaha...

3) Shut up.
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« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2012, 06:06:33 am »

It won`t be D+3 this year
at best D+1 but more even or R+1
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« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2012, 06:14:54 am »

It was even in 2004, D+7 in 2008... if you think it's going to be lower looking at the polls than D+2-4... then you're more clueless than you already appear...
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« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2012, 06:20:07 am »

In 2010 it was even too!
do you follow the Rasmussen  monthly party ID??
Rasmussen says it`s R+4
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« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2012, 06:31:35 am »

In 2010 it was even too!
do you follow the Rasmussen  monthly party ID??
Rasmussen says it`s R+4

2010 was a bad Dem year... this is not looking to be.

You're relying on Rasmussen? Rasmussen is the ONLY Party ID tracker than has the GOP ahead of the Dems... literally.
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« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2012, 06:51:57 am »

Rasmussen nailed teh party id in 2004 2006 2008 and 2010 btw
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« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2012, 06:56:30 am »

Rasmussen nailed teh party id in 2004 2006 2008 and 2010 btw

Like all Rasmussen polls, they always end up looking right in the end...
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« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2012, 07:00:29 am »

Rasmussen is the gold standart on national level
the state polls are not so good
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« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2012, 09:05:07 am »

Rasmussen is the gold standart on national level

W H A T ? ? ?

Rasmussen a "gold standard" in national polling???


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« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2012, 09:13:11 am »

"Zogby" has changed his name to "JZ Analytics"? Is he hoping people don't notice who it is? Will Rasmussen be renamed "SR" after the elections?
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« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2012, 09:15:45 am »

"Zogby" has changed his name to "JZ Analytics"? Is he hoping people don't notice who it is? Will Rasmussen be renamed "SR" after the elections?


No, Zogby sold his old company to the Brazilians (IBOPE) a couple years ago (poor Brazilians ... Tongue).

A few of his workers at the old company set up the new company "JZ Analytics".

John Zogby is not the CEO of this company anymore, only a "senior consultant".
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« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2012, 09:43:16 am »

"Zogby" has changed his name to "JZ Analytics"? Is he hoping people don't notice who it is? Will Rasmussen be renamed "SR" after the elections?


No, Zogby sold his old company to the Brazilians (IBOPE) a couple years ago (poor Brazilians ... Tongue).
How much they paid? A quarter?
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A few of his workers at the old company set up the new company "JZ Analytics".

John Zogby is not the CEO of this company anymore, only a "senior consultant".
So he still runs the show, just doesn't own it anymore?
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« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2012, 10:04:43 am »

"Zogby" has changed his name to "JZ Analytics"? Is he hoping people don't notice who it is? Will Rasmussen be renamed "SR" after the elections?


No, Zogby sold his old company to the Brazilians (IBOPE) a couple years ago (poor Brazilians ... Tongue).
How much they paid? A quarter?
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A few of his workers at the old company set up the new company "JZ Analytics".

John Zogby is not the CEO of this company anymore, only a "senior consultant".
So he still runs the show, just doesn't own it anymore?

More or less. Do we really expect John Zogby giving up his attention whoring ?
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« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2012, 02:48:46 pm »

ogby: National: President:

Obama/Romney: 49/40.7
my numbers: Romney/Obama: 47/46.8

http://www.jzanalytics.com/DATA/Crosstabs_Voters_2way_and_5way_horserace_092112
Zogby should hire you, seeing as you are both in the same business of making up numbers out of nothing.
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« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2012, 05:15:52 am »

Rasmussen is the gold standart on national level
the state polls are not so good

Is that because even all of his recent important state polls have shown Obama ahead?

(Oh wait, you've been banned, I guess you can't answer this...)
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