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Fmr. Pres. Duke
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« on: September 30, 2012, 05:36:05 PM »
« edited: June 21, 2013, 09:57:01 AM by VP Duke »

*** Please note, The Party has not be resurrected, The People have not returned to be the heroes Atlasia needs, but this thread may serve as a place to discuss The People's Plight. As the voice of The People, I have the power vested in me to call it The People's Thread. ***


The Mission Statement of The People's Party:
The People's Party is the party of The People. We support idea's that incorporate compromise and pragmatism. We oppose attempts by the federal government to infringe on the rights of our regions, and will be a fighter in Atlasia for regional rights.

While The People recognize the need for the federal government and applaud many of the things it is needed for: collecting taxes, bolstering infrastructure, protecting individual liberties through the courts and congress, The People first and foremost encourage regional level thinking. With strong regional governments comes a strong game with competition uniformly throughout. With more light shed on The People in the lowest level of this nation, the brighter that beacon will shine on the hill of hills. The lowly legislature election will be as contested as a senate election. Unknown Mideast Legislator can have his name in The People's Paper for writing that bill.

Friends, I am not asking you to join a party today, I am asking you to make an alliance with The People, and to know that no matter where you are now, you matter to Us. Our arms are open for you. Let's turn a new page in this game together.

Check us out at  /thepeoplespartytpp

If you are a member, please join this group.

Our bylaws are located here.

Our Founding Document is located here.

Our Members

The Party Members:

Total: 19
Northeast: 6
South: 3
Mideast: 7
Pacific: 3

The Caucus' Members:

Total: 6
Northeast: 1
South: 3
Mideast: 2


The People's Leaders:
Chairman: Duke
Vice Chairman: Senator Nix
Secretary: Cincinnatus

The People's Officeholders:

Federal (6)
Franzl - Senator At-Large
Nix - Northeast Senator
Ben - Mideast Senator
Oakvale - Pacific Senator
Mr. X - Senator At-large
Duke - Vice President

Regional (3)
FezzyFestoon - Northeast Legislator
Bacon King - IDS Legislator
Tallyrand - Mideast Legislator

The People's Platform:

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Fmr. Pres. Duke
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« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2012, 07:57:48 PM »

Our second governor has joined us! Welcome to the party all! It's an honor to have you for the ride!
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« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2012, 08:06:00 PM »

I suppose at some point we need to form official bylaws and the like and decide which leadership positions we need. Unlike other parties, I don't really think we need 15 different positions. I want input from everyone. Tmth is already a great recruiter and I am sure he will work on behalf of The People regardless of title. Myself likewise.

Depending on what type of interest we get, we may look at running a candidate in the senate elections, but if we do, I want to be sure they can get elected. One of the goals of this party certainly will encourage anyone, especially new members interested in getting involved, to look to their regional legislatures as a wonderful place to start and to gain experience. That's where I and many other folks got our start. That's a bit of what to expect short term. We are only in the early hours of our existence. Input is always welcome. My door remains open. Wink
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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2012, 08:13:39 PM »

I have never been a member of the Liberal Party. I am joining The People's Party.

If we field a candidate in Senatorial elections, I would be glad to stand for The Party in that regards.

Oh, you're welcome to run. The People will support you regardless of our meager numbers so far. Our goal short term will be to compete in regional elections and eventually the senate, but if anyone wants to run now, knowing the odds The Party faces given our infant status, by all means, you will have my support, and I will do all I can to help you win.

As I've just been elected Vice Chairman of the Whig Party, I cannot abandon my elected position, but I'd be honoured, nay PRIVILEGED to be considered as an honorary member of The People's Party.

As long as you hold Our message near and dear, we are honored to have you in our caucus.
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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2012, 08:17:04 PM »

The People grow stronger with every convert.

I suppose at some point we need to form official bylaws and the like and decide which leadership positions we need.

Leadership?  The People lead us Duke.  We are at their beck and call.

You and I are aware of this, which is what I was hinting at when I said I'd prefer to keep the leadership positions lean and mean. The goal of The People is to have everyone give their input, as ideas from The People can be shared until the Ultimate Authority decides which should stand as our decision.

The People once loomed large in Atlasia. Recently Our voice has been stifled, but no more. We are a force to be reckoned with, and we will help change this game for the better!
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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2012, 08:19:36 PM »

I forgive you, Duke.

It's very good to be here! Smiley

Feels nice, doesn't it? From the bottom of my heart, I want to thank you. Tmth has always been one to encourage new members to join this wonderful game and has been a champion of both the regional and federal levels of government. Without his work and encouragement, this Movement would not have made it to fruition! 
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« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2012, 08:26:11 PM »

Too lazy to read anything. I'll just say that, as a proud servant of The People and one-time correspondent for The People, I'll gladly join the party of The People. I'm just too lazy to formally announce it right now.

Once you're a correspondant for Us, you're always a correspondant. Your service to our newspaper is wonderful, and it is really sad that Atlasia has lost many newspapers over the years - The NWA, The Examiner. Those were some of my favorite parts about this game that the new members don't even know about! They have no idea what they are missing!
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« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2012, 08:29:45 PM »

I agree with Duke. Personally, I don't see a need for more than one elected position within the party.

Well, in my past experiences with parties, I have seen many of them fall victim to needless gridlock and a mixed message with no clear direction. In my former party, we had a very streamlined operation, one I have always subscribed to. But with that streamlined model comes a heavy emphasis on allowing everyone to have a say in the eventual decisions. One man will not make the decisions - that will be left to The People. However, less is more - tmth and I and many others involved in the previous era of Atlasia know that Tongue
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« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2012, 08:34:53 PM »

Also, I would like to formally request the party's endorsement in the upcoming Northeast Regional Senate Race. I understand that it is early, but it seems that I am not the only party member who will be running.

You already have it being a member, but I can leave a note for Homely if I need to for ballot purposes.

As someone who has seen multiple forms of party leadership in the game, here would be my recommendation:

Have an elected Chairman, which would obviously be Duke. There would then be one or two appointed positions that the chairman makes, just to make sure everything gets done. They shouldn't be elected, just appointed. But the positions are needed, I feel, to ensure that this party is ran properly. No pointless positions though, just for the sake of having them.

That could work, or we could have a chair and vice chair who fills in for the chair when they are away and are needed. I would like to see you as head recruiter, but I am not sure if we should make that a position or simply something you do. I would hope all of us would recruit for our party and bring in people we feel share our message Wink but tmth has been the best I have ever seen over the years Tongue

What say you all? Just 2 positions? Or a chair and two appointed positions?
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« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2012, 08:47:42 PM »

We'll be adding more flesh soon.

On second thought, I do think I favor a chairman and one of two positions that the chairman can fill on his own discretion. Vice Chairmen tends to be a useless position unless a party elects a chairman that has a tendency to disappear often. And if they do that, it's probably their own fault Tongue
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« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2012, 08:57:55 PM »

I don't know, actually.

How about this: A chairman and a vice chair. The vice chair's duties will mostly include the get out the vote effort of the party during election time. The chairmen will preside over everything else and be entrusted to weigh the suggestions and make the final decision.

The two appointed positions seem a bit, well, vague now that I think about it. A simple chair and vice chair would suffice. I don't see a need for a whip/secretary/majority leader/etc etc ... you get the picture Tongue
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« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2012, 09:07:03 PM »

I don't know, actually.

How about this: A chairman and a vice chair. The vice chair's duties will mostly include the get out the vote effort of the party during election time. The chairmen will preside over everything else and be entrusted to weigh the suggestions and make the final decision.

The two appointed positions seem a bit, well, vague now that I think about it. A simple chair and vice chair would suffice. I don't see a need for a whip/secretary/majority leader/etc etc ... you get the picture Tongue

I'd rather have a Whip and a Secretary to be honest.  One to lead the GOTV effort, and the other to lead in recruitment/keep bylaw records, ect.  Obviously GOTV effort would over-lap, but it's important that efforts are dispersed. 

The People demand no more than 3 positions. Can we make a deal and let the Vice Chair lead the GOTV, a secretary do the bylaws/wiki/etc, and the chair oversee daily operations? I want the vice chair to have more of a job than to simply be there in case the chair dies. We're all young and handsome. I doubt any of us will die anytime soon.

While recruiting was my strength years ago, GOTV efforts have been my preferred strength as of recent. I'm a competitive person, and losing is something I deeply despise - I've never lost an election in this game, and my goal is that The People never lose an election either. Should we go with Duke's suggestion, I would appreciate the position of Vice Chairman, should The People select me.

People willing, I would second your nomination as Vice Chair.
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« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2012, 09:08:32 PM »

Duke's proposal would work for me. I'd support Tmth for vice-chair.

An appointed secretary also strikes me as a worthwhile office to establish.

I'll volunteer to contact newly registered Atlasians for the party, in either an official or unofficial capacity. I enjoy doing that, although I'm not too keen on the random-PM side of recruiting.

I think we should all be in the business of recruiting, even if some are better than others. I don't think we should make recruiter an official position really. That should be the job of our members and as a matter of Party Pride
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« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2012, 09:33:55 PM »

You're certainly allowed to caucus with us. As an independent for the better part of the past year, I know how liberating it can be!

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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2012, 11:46:19 PM »
« Edited: September 30, 2012, 11:48:55 PM by Senator Duke »

Duke/Cinci is always on the ballot Wink

But seriously, we have no intentions to run a ticket. We are just getting our feet wet, as it were, and running a national ticket this soon with twofour candidates already established in the race would probably be asking for trouble.
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« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2012, 11:49:16 PM »

My point stands, even more emphatically now Tongue
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« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2012, 12:14:51 AM »

You guys, instead of becoming your own party, should make Caucuses in the existing ones. For example, "Gerald" could be a Whig, but in the People's Caucus of the Party.

We already have friends doing that, but the RG will not recognize them. Poor Marokai.

This party aims to be run differently than any other party currently in Atlasia. If we fail, we fail, but right now I and hopefully the other new members are all in on this. I think we can make something special.
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« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2012, 12:45:16 PM »

Welcome to all of those who have joined both The Party and The Caucus!

I think short term we need to first decide whether to let caucus members vote in our elections, and then once we decide that, we need to nominate and vote on the chair vice chair, and secretary.

I am working on an official platform which will need to be published in the coming weeks. I think one of the major goals I want to focus on early on is securing subforums for each region, for example.

As for voting, I am favoring allowing only Party members to vote, but Caucus members may voice their opinions and input as they wish. Allowing Caucus members to vote in our elections may encourage double dipping, and I don't think any party wants that.

 
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« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2012, 06:27:23 PM »

Allowing caucus members to vote discourages them from actually joining our party. I oppose it.

My thoughts on this as well. While The Caucus is important, it wouldn't be right to allow people to vote in two parties (their own and Our Party).

If they want to vote with us, they need to join us!
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« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2012, 03:11:24 PM »
« Edited: October 02, 2012, 03:13:58 PM by Senator Duke »

Okay, so I think three positions for leadership are what I would like to see. Chairman, vice chairman and a secretary.

Chairman - oversees everything, everyone reports to him.
Vice Chair - focuses on the GOTV effort and is heavily involved in recruiting
Secretary - keeps Wiki and bylaws updated.

I think three is all the positions we really need, as I feel more just makes things complicated and communication and message will get mixed up, but that is merely my opinion.

Also, I will be preparing the bylaws for us to begin discussing and ratifying as soon as possible.
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« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2012, 12:17:51 AM »

Am I correct in stating this is a generally centrist party (I'm in the midst of making a wiki article) also which image will be our logo.... is pink our color (basing it off of what griffgraph used) and should Glory to the People; Today, Tomorrow, Forever! be our slogan?

Yes. And pink is a fine color, perhaps we should all design something as our logo and see which we all like most... and go from there. That sounds like a catchy slogan.. but let's sleep on it before we go with anything else.

Tomorrow we need to have formal declarations for the Chair, Vice Chair and Secretary positions. I have written bylaws for our elections, but we will need to decide how to handle reelection - whether we do the approval system or have outright elections each time. So much to do still! But I have to get some sleep for class tomorrow.
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« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2012, 04:59:11 PM »

Okay guys. We need to begin the selection of our leadership core.

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That is for national positions so far. We need to discuss if we want to do the approval system for reelection of our officers or have full blown elections every 4 months, and I would like to set up regional chairs as we (hopefully) grow.

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« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2012, 05:19:23 PM »

As would I. From my experience that's what works best.
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« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2012, 05:35:52 PM »

I'll run for Chairman of The Party.
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« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2012, 05:37:47 PM »

Pink isn't our final color. Don't worry Tongue

And yes, the chairman will appoint regional chairs, at least that's how I have it written up in my first draft.
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