Will Romney ever pull out of Ohio?

[Eraserhead]

Washington Post and Fox News also have Obama up 8 and 7, but I'm sure you have a reason to discount those polls too.

And then there are those reports about both campaign's internal polling showing it as a high single digit race.

[King]

Strategically, it makes sense but as a PR move it would doom him with donors.

[Likely Voter]

JJ must be makin a pie cause he sure is doin a lot of cherry pickin


/folksy drawl

[Mr. Morden]

Strategically, it makes sense but as a PR move it would doom him with donors.

How does it make any strategic sense?  Even given that he's losing badly there at the moment, it still offers a more realistic path to 270 than any other option.

[Brittain33]

Washington Post and Fox News also have Obama up 8 and 7, but I'm sure you have a reason to discount those polls too.

Track record is no where near as good as PPP (and hasn't been good since prior to 1980 in the case of WP); the only thing left leaning on Fox is their polling.  On top of that, they are both older, with Fox being two weeks old.

J.J., would you say "I don't look at [those] polls"?

[Iosif]

Washington Post and Fox News also have Obama up 8 and 7, but I'm sure you have a reason to discount those polls too.

Track record is no where near as good as PPP (and hasn't been good since prior to 1980 in the case of WP); the only thing left leaning on Fox is their polling.  On top of that, they are both older, with Fox being two weeks old.

J.J., would you say "I don't look at [those] polls"?

He is looking at all the polls. He's just discounting the ones he doesn't like.

[J. J.]

Washington Post and Fox News also have Obama up 8 and 7, but I'm sure you have a reason to discount those polls too.

Track record is no where near as good as PPP (and hasn't been good since prior to 1980 in the case of WP); the only thing left leaning on Fox is their polling.  On top of that, they are both older, with Fox being two weeks old.

J.J., would you say "I don't look at [those] polls"?

No, but I do realize that all polls are not created equally, and that the numbers change over time.

I don't put a lot of stock in Uni polls.  Newspaper polls, like the ones showing Bush carrying MI in 2004, are also problematic.  Mail polling is so 1935.

[© tweed]

No.

That would be conceding that the election is over.

Besides, the immediate and obvious precedent (the Gore campaign's one huge error in 2000) is an extremely frustrating one.

whatever the fck leif said

Gore cut bait on OH in Sept/Oct 00, put all chips in Florida...

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

J. J.'s fourth rule of elections: "Any polls that don't fit my narrative are to be disregarded."

[Badger]

Uh, JJ, you do realize that virtually every other pollster has shown Obama with a bigger lead in Ohio than PPP, right?

I have not trusted a mail poll since 1936.  

I'm not crazy about those Uni polls for Ohio.  

J.J. I'm channelling The Professor here. Your assignment: Compare and contrast the polling methodology used by Literary Digest in 1936 vs. The Columbus Dispatch in the last several elections. Please reference the relative accuracy or inaccuracy of each poll relative to the final results.

Optional assignment: Quit hacking with grossly mismatched historical analogies.

Failing either will not help you get girls.