AZ-PPP: Carmona leads by 2

[Niemeyerite]

Richard Carmona, the former U.S. Surgeon General, leads Congressman Jeff Flake by 2 points.

The democrat has a +8 favorability rating, while the republican is just underwater (40/41 favorability).

Undecided voters will vote for Romney by a 58% to 37 margin, so the race may be even closer than what this poll is showing.

At the same time, President Obama trails Gov. Romney by 9.

Carmona 45%
Flake       43%

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/10/carmona-up-2-romney-by-9-in-arizona.html

[morgieb]

Gun!

[User157088589849]

Until i see a democrat polling 48% of the vote here i'll never believe they have a realistic shot.

Think democrats have a 47% ceiling its a very red state.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

Good news for Carmona (obviously, since this seat shouldn't be competitive), but the Republican lean of the undecideds here don't bode well.

[Lief 🗽]

Great news! Flake sucks and Carmona seems like a great guy.

[Niemeyerite]

Good news for Carmona (obviously, since this seat shouldn't be competitive), but the Republican lean of the undecideds here don't bode well.

While undecideds go 58/37 for Romney, Carmona can appeal to them as he worked for a republican Administration. And if you compare these numbers with the ones in Missouri, Montana and Indiana, they seem to be dem-leaning =P.

[ElectionAtlas]

New Poll: Arizona Senator by Public Policy Polling on 2012-10-03

Summary: D: 45%, R: 43%, U: 12%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details

[Biden 2024]

Great news! Flake sucks and Carmona seems like a great guy.

Flake is great. He's very moderate, and I wouldn't mind if he became the next Governor. But Carmona is amazing. If he wins the seat, I'll be so happy. He could be a great Presidential nominee in 2016. Joe Donnelly should be his running mate.

[Zioneer]

Great news! Flake sucks and Carmona seems like a great guy.

Flake is great. He's very moderate, and I wouldn't mind if he became the next Governor. But Carmona is amazing. If he wins the seat, I'll be so happy. He could be a great Presidential nominee in 2016. Joe Donnelly should be his running mate.

It'll be hilarious if Carmona wins in Arizona, but McMahon wins in Connecticut.

[freepcrusher]

Great news! Flake sucks and Carmona seems like a great guy.

Flake is great. He's very moderate, and I wouldn't mind if he became the next Governor. But Carmona is amazing. If he wins the seat, I'll be so happy. He could be a great Presidential nominee in 2016. Joe Donnelly should be his running mate.

ever cared to look at his voting record?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I wouldn't call him moderate, but he does have Libertarian tendencies and he is certainly not a tool of the GOP establishment, who he stood up to for years. He and Mike Pence were among a precious few who stood up to the excesses of the Bush years, and Flake to moreo f an extent then Pence even. And considering how many times they screwed him out of a deserved committee emplacement, for typically corrupt, establishment cronies, I doubt he will be in a mood to jump at the slightest command.

[opebo]

If by some miracle we gain a couple of seats in the Senate it will at least (possibly) delay Romney's utter destruction of health care and safety net till 2014 anyway.

[Maxwell]

This saddens me because I think Jeff Flake isn't a tool and he actually represents the history of Arizona in a lot of ways (Goldwaterisms). We need more guys in the Senate with some libertarian ideas.

[Zioneer]

If by some miracle we gain a couple of seats in the Senate it will at least (possibly) delay Romney's utter destruction of health care and safety net till 2014 anyway.

Opebo, you know that Romney isn't destined to win, right?

[Biden 2024]

Great news! Flake sucks and Carmona seems like a great guy.

Flake is great. He's very moderate, and I wouldn't mind if he became the next Governor. But Carmona is amazing. If he wins the seat, I'll be so happy. He could be a great Presidential nominee in 2016. Joe Donnelly should be his running mate.

ever cared to look at his voting record?

Flake voted to repeal Don't Ask, Don't Tell. He also introduced legislation to give citizenship to undocumented immigrants. Pretty moderate to me!

[Franzl]

Great news! Flake sucks and Carmona seems like a great guy.

Flake is great. He's very moderate, and I wouldn't mind if he became the next Governor. But Carmona is amazing. If he wins the seat, I'll be so happy. He could be a great Presidential nominee in 2016. Joe Donnelly should be his running mate.

ever cared to look at his voting record?

Flake voted to repeal Don't Ask, Don't Tell. He also introduced legislation to give citizenship to undocumented immigrants. Pretty moderate to me!

Is that all it takes to be moderate in the States these days?

[Miles]

Great news! Flake sucks and Carmona seems like a great guy.

Flake is great. He's very moderate, and I wouldn't mind if he became the next Governor. But Carmona is amazing. If he wins the seat, I'll be so happy. He could be a great Presidential nominee in 2016. Joe Donnelly should be his running mate.

ever cared to look at his voting record?

Flake voted to repeal Don't Ask, Don't Tell. He also introduced legislation to give citizenship to undocumented immigrants. Pretty moderate to me!

Is that all it takes to be moderate in the States these days?

He actually falls somewhere in the middle of the caucus, though I was expecting him to be further right.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Great news! Flake sucks and Carmona seems like a great guy.

Flake is great. He's very moderate, and I wouldn't mind if he became the next Governor. But Carmona is amazing. If he wins the seat, I'll be so happy. He could be a great Presidential nominee in 2016. Joe Donnelly should be his running mate.

ever cared to look at his voting record?

Flake voted to repeal Don't Ask, Don't Tell. He also introduced legislation to give citizenship to undocumented immigrants. Pretty moderate to me!

Is that all it takes to be moderate in the States these days?

He actually falls somewhere in the middle of the caucus, though I was expecting him to be further right.

If he falls in the middle of the GOP caucus, then he's batsh*t insane.

[morgieb]

Great news! Flake sucks and Carmona seems like a great guy.

Flake is great. He's very moderate, and I wouldn't mind if he became the next Governor. But Carmona is amazing. If he wins the seat, I'll be so happy. He could be a great Presidential nominee in 2016. Joe Donnelly should be his running mate.

ever cared to look at his voting record?

Flake voted to repeal Don't Ask, Don't Tell. He also introduced legislation to give citizenship to undocumented immigrants. Pretty moderate to me!

Is that all it takes to be moderate in the States these days?

He actually falls somewhere in the middle of the caucus, though I was expecting him to be further right.

iirc DW/Nominate has him as the MOST conservative member of Congress.

[Lief 🗽]

Doesn't matter if he pretends to be a "moderate." If he becomes a senator he'll be a lockstep filibustering right-winger like every other member of the GOP caucus.

[opebo]

If by some miracle we gain a couple of seats in the Senate it will at least (possibly) delay Romney's utter destruction of health care and safety net till 2014 anyway.

Opebo, you know that Romney isn't destined to win, right?

"Destined to win"?  Do you know something we don't know?  Some church thing about 'what is meant to be'?

[Zioneer]

If by some miracle we gain a couple of seats in the Senate it will at least (possibly) delay Romney's utter destruction of health care and safety net till 2014 anyway.

Opebo, you know that Romney isn't destined to win, right?

"Destined to win"?  Do you know something we don't know?  Some church thing about 'what is meant to be'?

No, what I'm talking about is your constant insistence that Obama will lose because white people are racist and not enough of them will vote for him.

[minionofmidas]

Great news! Flake sucks and Carmona seems like a great guy.

Flake is great. He's very moderate, and I wouldn't mind if he became the next Governor. But Carmona is amazing. If he wins the seat, I'll be so happy. He could be a great Presidential nominee in 2016. Joe Donnelly should be his running mate.

ever cared to look at his voting record?

Flake voted to repeal Don't Ask, Don't Tell. He also introduced legislation to give citizenship to undocumented immigrants. Pretty moderate to me!

Is that all it takes to be moderate in the States these days?

He actually falls somewhere in the middle of the caucus, though I was expecting him to be further right.

iirc DW/Nominate has him as the MOST conservative member of Congress.

It's all a matter of definition isn't it. He's a flake. Not a moderate by any means, but not a rank-and-file party soldier either, and by no means particularly idiotic as far as non-standard American right-wingers go.

[Brittain33]

Not having a perfect score doesn't mean he's moderate, it just means that his brand of sharp conservatism makes him break party discipline more often than your average conservative rep.

[opebo]

Opebo, you know that Romney isn't destined to win, right?

"Destined to win"?  Do you know something we don't know?  Some church thing about 'what is meant to be'?

No, what I'm talking about is your constant insistence that Obama will lose because white people are racist and not enough of them will vote for him.

Oh, great.  Yeah that's just one man's theory, nothing to get to concerned about.  But when you said 'destined' I thought maybe there was an oracle on top of a mountain in Utah that was telling you all what was gonna happen in the future.