Kerry killed Bush on 09/30/04

[Eraserhead]

massacred him

His performance was good, but Bush's performance was not bad. 

Obama's performance was arguably on a level of GHW Bush in 1992.

I actually re-watched the first debate from '04 just the other day. Don't kid yourselves. GW Bush was horrendous. Far worse than Obama was in this debate.

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Gallup gave 2004 numbers:

Kerry:  53

Bush:  37

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/polls/2004-09-30-debate-poll.htm

Obama would consider it a gift from God if he only lost by a 16 point gap. 

You really have turned into 'one of them'...

No, just not doing revisionist history, like you. 

I would question how much of a difference it will make in the poll numbers, but it is delusional to claim that this was just as bad as 2004.  CNN started polling in this in 1984 and they have had anyone winning a debate above 60%, until now.

Wow... deflection... you've been studying Politico's techniques...

A sanp poll does reflect something, that's true... but what matters is how people react to the outcome... that is something we don't know.

Snap polls are also impacted by who watched the debate in the first place.

Btw, JJ, CNN/ORC is not the same thing as Gallup so a direct comparison between the numbers can't be made.

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This could literally go on for days... let's just agree to disagree...

Well, you have the numbers from 2004 and you have the numbers from 2012, both CNN polls.  I think you can do the math.  

This is the last time I'm going to bother pointing this out to you but Gallup and ORC are not the same polling firm. Please stop trying to pretend that they are. Thanks.