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Antonio the Sixth
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E: -7.87, S: -3.83

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« on: October 07, 2012, 08:51:53 PM »

Well, it's PPP, so that's still more like Obama+1... Still good news on balance. Virginia is slightly more republican than the nation as a whole, so it might be a sign that Romney's bounce didn't make the race a pure tossup. I guess this would translate into Obama+2 nationwide, which is "dangerous territory" but not quite a dead heat.


In a state that Bob Freaking Dole carried in 1996, Romney is in a dogfight in a must win key state. This can't be good for republicans no matter how you spin it.

Ahem... Would you like to talk about Obama's numbers in West Virginia, a State that Mike Freaking Dukakis carried in 1988? Grin
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

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« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2012, 12:06:22 AM »

Again Party ID is just an attitude, not a demographic.

Speaking of Demographics. this poll has 75% White, 18% Black. In 2008 that was 70% and 20%. Also this poll has 22% olds and 12% youngs when in 2008 it was 11% olds and 22% youngs. It also has 53% female when it was 54% female. In other words it underweights women, blacks, hispanics and young people. If this poll were "unskewed" to match the 2008 demograhics it would have a huge Obama lead, not that I'm saying it should I'm just making a point about this silly party ID obsession.

Party ID is possibly the greatest factor in determining how someone will vote.

But party ID is not a demographic. Party ID is a person's choice, just like voting intentions. Saying that democrats are oversampled in a poll is like saying the poll is wrong because it puts Obama ahead.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,186
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2012, 12:24:19 AM »


But party ID is not a demographic. Party ID is a person's choice, just like voting intentions. Saying that democrats are oversampled in a poll is like saying the poll is wrong because it puts Obama ahead.

Party ID, which in some way is a measure of attitudes, is a demographic, i.e. "a single vital or social statistic of a human population."  http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/demographic


It obviously is a "social statistic," much like religious preference.

Then voting intention is a "social statistic" as well.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,186
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2012, 02:42:33 PM »

Why does the Atlas entry put Obama up by 4?
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