Obama supposedly left debate thinking he won.

[BigSkyBob]

He [Obama] is an arrogant man. We knew that already.

Well to be fair, Romney had never given any signs of being anything other than a fool before. 

The stock market is one of those places that a "fool" and his money often part. Romney may very well have a series of flaws, but being a "fool" simply isn't one of them.

[BigSkyBob]

Well to be fair, Romney had never given any signs of being anything other than a fool before. 

The stock market is one of those places that a "fool" and his money often part. Romney may very well have a series of flaws, but being a "fool" simply isn't one of them.

Oh please, BS.  He's an annointed one, he never 'did' something.

Are you seriously suggesting that the fact that his dad was a politician was the sole reason Bane Capital, and Mitt Romney made serious money? The evidence strongly suggests to me that Romney had a talent for stock speculation/finance. Whether that a plus, a negative or neutral in his race is separate question.

[BigSkyBob]

Are you seriously suggesting that the fact that his dad was a politician was the sole reason Bane Capital, and Mitt Romney made serious money? The evidence strongly suggests to me that Romney had a talent for stock speculation/finance. Whether that a plus, a negative or neutral in his race is separate question.

No, he got all his money because his father was rich, BS.  That is alwys why people get rich.

So, you are saying Steve Jobs ended with a net worth of several hundred million dollars because his adoptive parents were "rich?" Most people would assume that things like Pixar, and the iP___ had the most to do with it.

[BigSkyBob]

The only 'privilege' he's had in his life is going to prestigious Universities --

Even if this were true, it would be an utterly laughable defense of both the man and the ostensibly virtuous meritocracy that has produced him.

What rigged deck theory are you pushing?  Marxist class system? 

By no means; I'm a mainstream social liberal. I'm just giving an honest account of things; elite schools provide their students with an immense advantage over those who have not attended those institutions for reasons entirely unrelated to what is included in most definitions of 'merit.'

Unless, of course, admission to those "elite schools" is itself a measure of "merit." I don't dispute that there are kids who were admitted to Harvard because daddy went to Harvard and contributed thereafter. But, there are also kids admitted there based on their own "merits."

[BigSkyBob]

So, you are saying Steve Jobs ended with a net worth of several hundred million dollars because his adoptive parents were "rich?" Most people would assume that things like Pixar, and the iP___ had the most to do with it.

Sure, he only got those things because an army of poor working stiffs he controlled because of his privilege created them for him.  Don't you understand capitalism at all, BS?

Again, millions, if not tens of millions, of Americans were born as "privileged" as Steve Jobs. If ones level of "privilege" were the deciding factor, the millions of Americans born more "privileged" ought to have outperformed Jobs. Why didn't they?

What you seem to fail to grasp is that Jobs was given command of "an army of working stiffs" precisely because the system realized he issued the better orders.