surprise nominees for 2008?

[WalterMitty]

i think that at least one party, maybe both, will nominate someone for president in 2008 that not many people are talking about today.

who are the most likely surprise nominees from each party?

republicans:
sen. lindsay graham
sen. lamar alexander
sen. george allen
gov. mark sanford

democrats:
sen. russ feingold
gov. phil bredesen

[nini2287]

Maybe Sens. Dorgan, Durbin or Landrieu for the Dems,

For the Reps, Govs. Fletcher or Barbour could emerge if Sanford doesn't run, or Sen. Thune, although he would only have been in the Senate for 4 years (+6 years of house expereince)

[WalterMitty]

haley barbour for president?

no thanks.

[12th Doctor]

The biggest suprise nominee for the Dems in 2008 would by Evan Bayh or Mark Warner.  They simply didn't get their asses kicked badly enough to understand that 2004 was a rejection of their party, not that they simply "didn't get the message out".

[they don't love you like i love you]

*roll eyes*

a 2.5% loss is hardly an ass kicking, and it's kind of difficult for such a narrow victory to show that a country is rejecting an entire party.

[Moooooo]

*roll eyes*

a 2.5% loss is hardly an ass kicking, and it's kind of difficult for such a narrow victory to show that a country is rejecting an entire party.

However, majority of the country is rejecting the Barbara Boxer's, Ted Kenndy's, etc... Untill we dissacoiate ourselves from those type of "democrats" we will continue to lose elections throughout the country.  The American people agree with Democrats on alot of domestic issues.  But the anti-war, take away all your guns while we are at it policies arent catching on and never will.

[Keystone Phil]

Governor Sanford could be the surprise nominee for the GOP.

[YRABNNRM]

Former Governor and Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge.

[Akno21]

Senator (Maybe Governor) Jon Corzine of New Jersey.

[PBrunsel]

Representative (maybe Governor, probaably actually) Jim Nussle of Iowa.

My other hero, Senator Grassley, will be far too old.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

Former Governor and Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge.

Isn't he Pro-Choice?  If so, he will not be the nominee.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

If Condi Rice is Pro-Life and if (BIG if) Iraq goes well, she could win in a cake-walk.

[Moooooo]

If Condi Rice is Pro-Life and if (BIG if) Iraq goes well, she could win in a cake-walk.

Shes pro-choice and unmarried.  She isnt getting anywhere near that nomination.

[YRABNNRM]

If Condi Rice is Pro-Life and if (BIG if) Iraq goes well, she could win in a cake-walk.

Shes pro-choice and unmarried.  She isnt getting anywhere near that nomination.

And a black woman.

[Moooooo]

If Condi Rice is Pro-Life and if (BIG if) Iraq goes well, she could win in a cake-walk.

Shes pro-choice and unmarried.  She isnt getting anywhere near that nomination.

And a black woman.

I was going to say that, but I didnt want anyone to get all worked up. 

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

If Condi Rice is Pro-Life and if (BIG if) Iraq goes well, she could win in a cake-walk.

Shes pro-choice and unmarried.  She isnt getting anywhere near that nomination.

And a black woman.

 Don't you think that HELPS her?  Even if she only gets 20% of the black vote in the General, she would be unbeatable.

Has she left herself enough wiggle room to at least switch to being Pro-Life?

[Moooooo]

If Condi Rice is Pro-Life and if (BIG if) Iraq goes well, she could win in a cake-walk.

Shes pro-choice and unmarried.  She isnt getting anywhere near that nomination.

And a black woman.

 Don't you think that HELPS her?  Even if she only gets 20% of the black vote in the General, she would be unbeatable.

Has she left herself enough wiggle room to at least switch to being Pro-Life?

Blacks dont vote for blacks, just because their black.  They've voted Democratic for years and will continue to do so for a long time regardless of the Republican nominees race.  She may pick up a few percentage points, but not as many as she would lose in the deep south.  (in my opinion)

[YRABNNRM]

If Condi Rice is Pro-Life and if (BIG if) Iraq goes well, she could win in a cake-walk.

Shes pro-choice and unmarried.  She isnt getting anywhere near that nomination.

And a black woman.

 Don't you think that HELPS her?  Even if she only gets 20% of the black vote in the General, she would be unbeatable.

Has she left herself enough wiggle room to at least switch to being Pro-Life?

You think this country is ready for a black....none the less woman president?

[Rob]

Rice doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of getting nominated by the GOP.

[12th Doctor]

*roll eyes*

a 2.5% loss is hardly an ass kicking, and it's kind of difficult for such a narrow victory to show that a country is rejecting an entire party.

Ummmm... that was my point.  I said they didn't get their asses kicked badly enough.

[Akno21]

*roll eyes*

a 2.5% loss is hardly an ass kicking, and it's kind of difficult for such a narrow victory to show that a country is rejecting an entire party.

Ummmm... that was my point.  I said they didn't get their asses kicked badly enough.

I think BRTD's point was that losing by 2.5 is not a direct refusal of Democratic ideas.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

You think this country is ready for a black....none the less woman president?

Yes.  I think she would be an incredibly strong candidate, if she is Pro-Life.

Who could lay a glove on her?  She grew up on the front-lines of the Civil Rights battle.  She can't be beaten in debates.  She is graceful and doesn't pick fights, yet she is tough.

And, her being single is actually a plus - she would not be threatening to male voters since she wouldn't be upstaging her husband.  And we wouldn't have to worry about the role of the "First Gentleman".

She's nothing but business - exactly the type of black that biggots find acceptable.

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*roll eyes*

a 2.5% loss is hardly an ass kicking, and it's kind of difficult for such a narrow victory to show that a country is rejecting an entire party.

However, majority of the country is rejecting the Barbara Boxer's, Ted Kenndy's, etc... Untill we dissacoiate ourselves from those type of "democrats" we will continue to lose elections throughout the country.  The American people agree with Democrats on alot of domestic issues.  But the anti-war, take away all your guns while we are at it policies arent catching on and never will.

Let's see.....
1. The war is a ing disaster
2. Most Democrats do not support new federal gun laws
3.  Not standing up to the Republicans and saying why they are wrong, will cause the Democrats to continue to get their asses kicked.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

2. Most Democrats do not support new federal gun laws

Maybe not publically, but only because the NRA turned you into a minority party.  But deep down you still do, and everyone knows it.

[Smash255]

You think this country is ready for a black....none the less woman president?

Yes.  I think she would be an incredibly strong candidate, if she is Pro-Life.

Who could lay a glove on her?  She grew up on the front-lines of the Civil Rights battle.  She can't be beaten in debates.  She is graceful and doesn't pick fights, yet she is tough.

And, her being single is actually a plus - she would not be threatening to male voters since she wouldn't be upstaging her husband.  And we wouldn't have to worry about the role of the "First Gentleman".

She's nothing but business - exactly the type of black that biggots find acceptable.

Southern conservative whites (the base of the Republican party) are not going to vote for a black single woman, especially a pro-choice black single woman.  She has less of a chance of getting past the primaries than Giuliani.  She's black, thats strike 1 against her from Southern Republicans, she's single thats strike 2, she's a woman thats strike 3, she's pro-choice strike 4, & I think she is for more gun control (not sure though) strike 5.  White Southern conservative Republicans simply won't vote for her