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« Reply #50 on: February 01, 2005, 03:54:56 pm »

2. Could certain Republicans stop playing silly buggers with his approval and/or name recognition numbers.

We're just stating a few things that some Democrats refuse to pay attention to.

Which is fair enough, but embellishing them isn't
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« Reply #51 on: February 01, 2005, 04:16:59 pm »

Clinton Bush
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« Reply #52 on: February 08, 2005, 03:27:03 pm »

Pataki or Ridge.
Vilsack or Richardson.
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« Reply #53 on: February 08, 2005, 03:28:45 pm »

Why is Santorum unelectable?

He's a religious nut.
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« Reply #54 on: February 08, 2005, 03:31:46 pm »

Why is Santorum unelectable?

He's a religious nut.

Besides Bayh vs. Santorum, give me a situation where Santorum would likely lose.
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« Reply #55 on: February 08, 2005, 03:52:04 pm »

Santorum is like a moderate Jerry Falwell.
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« Reply #56 on: February 08, 2005, 03:53:21 pm »

Santorum is like a moderate Jerry Falwell.

Thanks for not answering my request.
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« Reply #57 on: February 08, 2005, 04:16:42 pm »

Why is Santorum unelectable?

He's a religious nut.

Since when does that make him unelectable?
He isn't any more extreme than Bush, really.
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« Reply #58 on: February 08, 2005, 04:43:45 pm »

Frist,Giuliani,Bush

Clinton,Kerry,Dean
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« Reply #59 on: February 08, 2005, 04:54:19 pm »

I don't think Santorum would do that great in a general election, unless the Dem was as liberal as he is conservative, in which case a moderate may spring up and take a few votes (Perot, Anderson, etc.) and split the electorate.  Anyway (we'll assume generic VPs who won't add much to the ticket):

Generic populist Dem (Warner, Vilsack, etc.) vs. Santorum
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Dem-294
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Tossups-PA, OH, NH, FL, MO, IA, AR, CO, NM, VA, NV
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« Reply #60 on: February 08, 2005, 04:55:39 pm »

The most unelectable potential nominee is a certain left-wing, Democratic extremist senator from Indiana.
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« Reply #61 on: February 08, 2005, 05:29:30 pm »

The most unelectable potential nominee is a certain left-wing, Democratic extremist senator from Indiana.

Why do you think that?  I hear you say it all the time, but you never back it up with any analysis or anything.  Im not saying your 100% wrong because thats your opinion.  I would just like to know why you think Bayh is so unelectable?
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« Reply #62 on: February 08, 2005, 08:52:05 pm »

Voinovich and Clinton
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« Reply #63 on: February 08, 2005, 09:01:16 pm »

Harry 'the Undertaker' Reid.
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« Reply #64 on: February 09, 2005, 03:57:00 pm »

The most unelectable potential nominee is a certain left-wing, Democratic extremist senator from Indiana.

You mean Massachusetts...
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« Reply #65 on: February 09, 2005, 09:47:05 pm »

The most unelectable potential nominee is a certain left-wing, Democratic extremist senator from Indiana.

Good one, Philip!

Oh wait... you're not kidding...
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« Reply #66 on: February 09, 2005, 09:51:29 pm »

If you guys love Bayh so much, don't let the mainstream media know about it too soon.  Once he becomes the frontrunner, the media hounds will dog him to no end, just as they did Howard Dean.
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« Reply #67 on: February 09, 2005, 09:59:49 pm »

If you guys love Bayh so much, don't let the mainstream media know about it too soon.  Once he becomes the frontrunner, the media hounds will dog him to no end, just as they did Howard Dean.

Thats what Im thinking.  If he gets to much hype early the people will be tired of him come election time.
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« Reply #68 on: February 09, 2005, 10:02:17 pm »

Frontrunner status kills!
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« Reply #69 on: February 10, 2005, 04:53:25 am »

The most unelectable potential nominee is a certain left-wing, Democratic extremist senator from Indiana.

You mean one of the State Senators for the Gary-Hammond area?
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« Reply #70 on: February 10, 2005, 05:45:18 pm »

Santorum is like a moderate Jerry Falwell.

Thanks for not answering my request.

Al Gore if he gets back into shape.
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« Reply #71 on: February 10, 2005, 06:54:41 pm »

What do you guys make of the CNN/Gallup poll showing that Hillary has the support of 40% of Dems, Kerry about 25%, and Edwards a distant third around 15% or so? 

Are you Bayh supporters far ahead of the curve, or are you far behind the curve? 

Having only heard the poll results on radio, I don't know how well Bayh polled, but it has to be below Edwards, which can't be too good for Bayh.


Of course the poll may mean nothing, as it had Rudy leading all GOP candidates, and McCain in second.  I don't doubt that Rudy led in the poll, but it seems that for the GOP the question was posed to registered voters rather than registered Republicans, though I may have misheard that.     

I seriously doubt that Rudy can survive the primaries unless he moves closer to the right.  As for McCain, he has been so busy cozying up to every liberal Dem in the Senate that i don't think he has a chance in hell of getting the nomination, at least not the Republican nomination.
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« Reply #72 on: February 10, 2005, 09:25:19 pm »

Of course the poll may mean nothing, as it had Rudy leading all GOP candidates

This is exactly what I was thinking when I saw the poll on TV today.  Polls conducted now regarding 2008 are simply name recognition polls.  No one has heard of a Mark Sanford or Evan Bayh so they usually go with the name they hear the most like Hillary or Rudy.
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« Reply #73 on: February 11, 2005, 12:38:38 am »

Why does everyone consider Kerry unelectable? It's painfully difficult to unseat a sitting president in an election; impossible when that president is in the midst of an overseas armed conflict. Kerry came one state from winning the thing. I'd even venture into saying if Kerry ran in 2000, he would have beaten Bush...wait---didn't Gore actually do that?(Just kidding!) Someone asked what states would go his way in 2008 that didn't this time. I can think of four: Iowa, Nevada, Colorado, and New Mexico. If Bush passes this immigration act, Arizona might tip towards the Democrats as well. I wouldn't be surprised to see my home state Ohio go in his favor if people here lose faith in the Republicans thanks to Taft. He(Taft) is busy right now selling his wonderful tax plan which will cut all kinds of programs. Kerry, or whoever the Deomcrats run in 08', may have problems with Michigan and Pennsylvania; hard to say.

I say Hillary is rather unelectable. Lieberman doesn't look very promising, either. Believe it or not, I think McCain would be a rather poor choice given the fact that he has his name all over the McCain-Fiengold act and appears to be in Bush's back pocket with social security and immigration. Frist or any right winger from the south may not be a wise alternative. A lot will depend on the next four years.

I heard one member mention Voinovich. He was the governor here for a while. Why is he not a front runner? He seems moderate enough, at least a lot more so than that aweful Dewine. I'm pretty sure he's not interested, but why would he not be good for the Republicans? He's well liked here and I think he could flip several midweatern states.
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« Reply #74 on: February 11, 2005, 01:50:24 am »

Kerry is unelectable because he simply doesn't have any substance. The reason he got as many votes as he did was because he turned out to be the "anybody but Bush" candidate, not because anyone seriously wanted president Kerry. With a nation as divided as it is at present, just about ANYONE the Dems nominated would have received about 48% of the PV like Kerry did, simply for being the alternative to Bush. However, to win at least those crucial last 2%, you have to have some kind substance--which Kerry simply didn't. It's amazing how somehow he consistently failed to attack Bush's greatest weaknesses. Wise strategy on the Dem's part--nominate a billionare to unseat another billionaire. Great choices for the people. Take my word for it, the vast majority of those 59+ million didn't necessarily want Kerry as president, they simply wanted Bush out of office.
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