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« on: January 31, 2005, 10:28:52 PM »

if i were santorum...id worry about 2006.  he really has no room for comfort.

most any democrat would beat him nationally.

Mark my words, Santorum will win... comfortably.  The only candidate who can beat him is Casey and Casey wants to be governor.

At anyrate

Republican: Bill Frist

Democrat: probably Dean
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« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2005, 10:31:13 PM »

So wait, Kerry would do better in Ohio against Santorum... a true social populist, than he did against Bush.  It is to laugh.
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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2005, 10:33:11 PM »

if i were santorum...id worry about 2006.  he really has no room for comfort.

most any democrat would beat him nationally.

Mark my words, Santorum will win... comfortably.  The only candidate who can beat him is Casey and Casey wants to be governor.

We can say that a thousand times and they still won't believe it. They're going to put their faith in Hafer and Hoeffel and really believe they can win!

Need I say this again:

Highest approval rating of any sitting Senator
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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2005, 10:34:21 PM »

We can say that a thousand times and they still won't believe it. They're going to put their faith in Hafer and Hoeffel and really believe they can win!

Rendell obviously isnt running for Senate because he will be running for re-election.  But if he did decide to run for some reason or another could he beat Santorum?

If the Republicans can manage to field a decent candidate, like Lynn Swann, Redell won't even win his own reelection.
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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2005, 10:42:18 PM »



Highest approval rating of any sitting Senator

In Pennsylvania or the entire country?

He has the highest approval rating amounst his constituents of any Senator in the country.
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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2005, 10:47:54 PM »



Highest approval rating of any sitting Senator

In Pennsylvania or the entire country?

He has the highest approval rating amounst his constituents of any Senator in the country.

thats wrong.  Last time I saw his approval among Republicans was in the 70's.  Schumer's approval among Dems in NY is in the 80's  (65 overall)

No, I mean, that his approval rating among the people of his state.  It is pretty sad that you consider "constituents" to be reflective only of what party you represent.

Perhapes that's why you don't win elections.
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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2005, 10:53:50 PM »



Highest approval rating of any sitting Senator

In Pennsylvania or the entire country?

He has the highest approval rating amounst his constituents of any Senator in the country.

thats wrong.  Last time I saw his approval among Republicans was in the 70's.  Schumer's approval among Dems in NY is in the 80's  (65 overall)

No, I mean, that his approval rating amoung the people of his state.  It is pretty sad that you consider "constituents" to be reflective only of what party you represent.


I don't, but you said highest in the nation.  The six month old poll Keystone likes to refer to so much has Santorum's approval in the mid 50's, thats the highest of either PA senator, but FAR from the highest of any senator in their state

You might be right about Shumer, but have you looked at other polls?  Generally, Senators are either unknown or unliked.

The poll for Chucky might have been among those who knew who he was, whereas the Santorum poll was a general population sample.  Those who conducted the study found it amazing that so many people were able to identify Santorum without any prompting... I think something like 70% of the respondants.

Typically, in a poll, they throw out those who cannot identify the individual.
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« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2005, 11:10:37 PM »



Highest approval rating of any sitting Senator

In Pennsylvania or the entire country?

He has the highest approval rating amounst his constituents of any Senator in the country.

thats wrong.  Last time I saw his approval among Republicans was in the 70's.  Schumer's approval among Dems in NY is in the 80's  (65 overall)

No, I mean, that his approval rating amoung the people of his state.  It is pretty sad that you consider "constituents" to be reflective only of what party you represent.


I don't, but you said highest in the nation.  The six month old poll Keystone likes to refer to so much has Santorum's approval in the mid 50's, thats the highest of either PA senator, but FAR from the highest of any senator in their state

You might be right about Shumer, but have you looked at other polls?  Generally, Senators are either unknown or unliked.

The poll for Chucky might have been among those who knew who he was, whereas the Santorum poll was a general population sample.  Those who conducted the study found it amazing that so many people were able to identify Santorum without any prompting... I think something like 70% of the respondants.

Typically, in a poll, they throw out those who cannot identify the individual.

i think the poll you are referring to was of REPUBLICANS not the general population sample, I do remember seeing a poll of 70 something 5 among Republicans and considering the fact Keystone keeps bringing up the August poll that showed his approval @ 55%, we all know if their was a poll as you suggest of 70% of the population Keystone would have posted it 500 times by now  For the record both Clinton & Schumer have approval ratings in the 60's

I get the felling that you are not really reading my posts.

1) The poll was among the general population.

2) 70% did not say that they supported Santorum, merely that they knew of him.  That is huge, when you consider that the average name recongnition for a Senator is about 55%.

3) The poll did not throw out those who were not aware of Santorum, like most polls do, thus his approval rating among the general population was, indeed, 56%.

4) There was a Republicans only poll attached to that, but that is not the one I am talking about.
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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2005, 11:38:46 PM »

Your missing a point of mine, that I made twice.  Most polls throw out those who have no knowledge of the person mentioned, giving the approval, only among those who have heard of them.  The Santorum poll did not do this.  Did the Schumer poll do this? Because, personally, I doubt that 60% of the people in New York know who he is.
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