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« on: October 18, 2012, 02:01:02 pm »

Obama 50, Romney 47 (from twitter)

Their last poll (before the first debate) had Obama up by 6 points.
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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2012, 02:02:40 pm »

Obama is at 50......good, very good.
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« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2012, 02:03:02 pm »

Between CO, IA and NH, they said CO was the best of the three for Obama.  That's a huge problem.
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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2012, 02:10:16 pm »

So Obama -3 from the last PPP poll of Obama +6 in September, looks great but not good enough.  Romney needs to campaign harder in CO until the veins pop out of his head.
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« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2012, 02:19:54 pm »

big -3 Debate bounce by Obama
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« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2012, 02:25:00 pm »

big -3 Debate bounce by Obama

What?

The previous poll was taking in September, which makes it irrelevant.
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« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2012, 02:27:44 pm »

big -3 Debate bounce by Obama

What?

The previous poll was taking in September, which makes it irrelevant.
Obama doing 'slightly better' (which is subjective) than Romney on the 2nd debate, and Romney winning big on the 1st debate equals Obama losing points. Obama is still losing when you look at it from +6 in September PPP poll and +3 in October PPP poll, that's -3 points.  Secondly, PPP is a Democratic polster, not surprising.
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« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2012, 02:30:59 pm »

big -3 Debate bounce by Obama

What?

The previous poll was taking in September, which makes it irrelevant.
Obama doing 'slightly better' (which is subjective) than Romney on the 2nd debate, and Romney winning big on the 1st debate equals Obama losing points. Obama is still losing when you look at it from +6 in September PPP poll and October PPP poll.

But it is stupid to compare a poll from September to a poll in October and say Obama got a -3 bump. The poll in September is out of date.

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« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2012, 02:33:24 pm »

If CO has the same effects as NV I think Obama will win the state by 4 if things go like they are now.
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« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2012, 02:34:09 pm »

If CO has the same effects as NV I think Obama will win the state by 4 if things go like they are now.
I'm going to put out the blame of ignorant people who don't do enough research on why should Obama get another 4 years. It's simple as that.
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« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2012, 02:39:44 pm »

CO has been tracking the national avg so surprised to see PPP have national race tied and CO O+3
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« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2012, 02:41:48 pm »

PPP was actually the best pollster in Colorado in both 2008, 2010. In 08, they had Obama +10 (he won by 9) and 2010 they actually had Buck +1 (Bennet won by 1). All the other pollsters were off by about 4 here.
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« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2012, 02:42:35 pm »

If CO has the same effects as NV I think Obama will win the state by 4 if things go like they are now.
I'm going to put out the blame of ignorant people who don't do enough research on why should Obama get another 4 years. It's simple as that.

Yes, anyone who disagrees with you is an ignorant who doesn't do enough research. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2012, 02:43:33 pm »

Between CO, IA and NH, they said CO was the best of the three for Obama.  That's a huge problem.
It would be nice to win all three, but Obama doesn't need to. Assuming FL and VA going for Romney, it's all about OH. With OH and CO, Obama wins. Without OH, Obama loses even with CO, IA, and NH.
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« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2012, 02:44:14 pm »

YouGov, Grove, PPP all have CO at +3 for the President.  Probably about right.  
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« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2012, 02:47:16 pm »

If CO has the same effects as NV I think Obama will win the state by 4 if things go like they are now.
I'm going to put out the blame of ignorant people who don't do enough research on why should Obama get another 4 years. It's simple as that.

Yes, anyone who disagrees with you is an ignorant who doesn't do enough research. Roll Eyes
Sure you're not a Paulite?
If somebody voted for Obama the first time, and votes Romney the 2nd time, its enough evidence that they're not ignorant and done their research on why they changed sides.  Obama already proved to us his record, and voting for him again is appalling.  I don't need to get into details and specifics about each voters record.
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« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2012, 02:49:05 pm »

If CO has the same effects as NV I think Obama will win the state by 4 if things go like they are now.
I'm going to put out the blame of ignorant people who don't do enough research on why should Obama get another 4 years. It's simple as that.

Yes, anyone who disagrees with you is an ignorant who doesn't do enough research. Roll Eyes
Sure you're not a Paulite?
If somebody voted for Obama the first time, and votes Romney the 2nd time, its enough evidence that they're not ignorant and done their research on why they changed sides.  Obama already proved to us his record, and voting for him again is appalling.  I don't need to get into details and specifics about each voters record.

If CO has the same effects as NV I think Obama will win the state by 4 if things go like they are now.
I'm going to put out the blame of ignorant people who don't do enough research on why should Obama get another 4 years. It's simple as that.

Yes, anyone who disagrees with you is an ignorant who doesn't do enough research. Roll Eyes
Sure you're not a Paulite?
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« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2012, 02:50:27 pm »

No, if Obama loses Ohio he can still win if he takes CO, IA, NH, WI, NV= 272
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« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2012, 02:58:45 pm »

No, if Obama loses Ohio he can still win if he takes CO, IA, NH, WI, NV= 272
Oops. I added wrong Tongue
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« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2012, 02:59:02 pm »

If CO has the same effects as NV I think Obama will win the state by 4 if things go like they are now.
I'm going to put out the blame of ignorant people who don't do enough research on why should Obama get another 4 years. It's simple as that.

Yes, anyone who disagrees with you is an ignorant who doesn't do enough research. Roll Eyes
Sure you're not a Paulite?
If somebody voted for Obama the first time, and votes Romney the 2nd time, its enough evidence that they're not ignorant and done their research on why they changed sides.  Obama already proved to us his record, and voting for him again is appalling.  I don't need to get into details and specifics about each voters record.

At least you're not creating some alternative universe of polling and recognize that you got work to do in CO. I'll take it.
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« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2012, 03:01:09 pm »

If CO has the same effects as NV I think Obama will win the state by 4 if things go like they are now.
I'm going to put out the blame of ignorant people who don't do enough research on why should Obama get another 4 years. It's simple as that.

Yes, anyone who disagrees with you is an ignorant who doesn't do enough research. Roll Eyes
Sure you're not a Paulite?
If somebody voted for Obama the first time, and votes Romney the 2nd time, its enough evidence that they're not ignorant and done their research on why they changed sides.  Obama already proved to us his record, and voting for him again is appalling.  I don't need to get into details and specifics about each voters record.
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Whoever doesn't agree with my views is ignorant.

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« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2012, 03:07:07 pm »

So Obama -3 from the last PPP poll of Obama +6 in September, looks great but not good enough. 

Doesn't look great for you, bub, as lots of polls in the intervening time had the state mostly about tied or with a point up for Romney, so this looks very solid.
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« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2012, 03:10:38 pm »

New Poll: Colorado President by Public Policy Polling on 2012-10-18

Summary: D: 49%, R: 44%, I: 4%, U: 3%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details

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« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2012, 03:12:02 pm »

There's actually little change in the numbers when you look at the question including Gary Johnson: Obama's lead shrinks from 6% in September to 5% now.
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« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2012, 03:14:38 pm »

There's actually little change in the numbers when you look at the question including Gary Johnson: Obama's lead shrinks from 6% in September to 5% now.

Even better Smiley
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