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« on: October 20, 2012, 06:24:55 PM »
« edited: October 20, 2012, 06:32:21 PM by Homer Simpson »

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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2012, 06:25:48 PM »

Well.....at least this makes Monday's debate watchable.
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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2012, 06:26:08 PM »

My mom said just this morning that Obama was going to do exactly this.
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« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2012, 06:28:40 PM »

October Surprise! YES! YES! YES!
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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2012, 06:29:36 PM »

This is Amazing news!
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« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2012, 06:30:07 PM »

FORWARD!
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« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2012, 06:32:20 PM »

Fantastic news!

Our sanctions have absolutely tanked Iran's economy this year. It's been a successful policy and totally at odds with the caricature of Obama weakening America and apologizing to everyone in sight.
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« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2012, 06:33:42 PM »

Good, good! Grin (as both a partisan and as a human being)
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« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2012, 06:33:55 PM »

Has this actually been confirmed? Link?
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« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2012, 06:34:28 PM »

Has this actually been confirmed? Link?

http://bostonglobe.com/news/world/2012/10/20/iran-agree-nuclear-talks/jOhNkk3KIdREiXDIVfUv2I/story.html
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« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2012, 06:34:51 PM »

This wouldn't be the first time Iran has done this, and it wouldn't be the first time all of us became seized with false hope.  

But this bodes well for President Obama on Monday.  
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« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2012, 06:35:01 PM »

Has this actually been confirmed? Link?

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/21/world/iran-said-ready-to-talk-to-us-about-nuclear-program.html?emc=na&_r=1&
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« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2012, 06:35:48 PM »

If Obama handles this right, it could win him the election. But he has to work fast to prevent Romney from 'defining' this event -- which Romney could still do; in the talking-points-world, it opens him up to charges of 'negotiating with terrorists', and in the real-world, it's unclear whether Khamenei has signed off on this and even the NYT has noted the possibility that 'this is a stalling tactic by Iran to get nuclear weapons'.

Is it a positive for Obama? Probably. But does it have to be, if he fumbles or Romney handles this skillfully? No.

So, basically:

This wouldn't be the first time Iran has done this, and it wouldn't be the first time all of us became seized with false hope.  

But this bodes well for President Obama on Monday.  

EDIT: Going to trust Oakvale on this one, too (I doubt he'd say it if it wasn't true):

The White House is denying it FWIW.... don't get your hopes up.
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« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2012, 06:36:16 PM »

The White House is denying it FWIW.... don't get your hopes up.
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« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2012, 07:08:09 PM »
« Edited: October 20, 2012, 07:17:59 PM by Snowmentum »

If this is true, the fascists will of course spin this as "the black is weak on protecting America!".

again, trolling to piss off the trolls
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« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2012, 07:12:10 PM »

David Gergen saying this looks like an admin plant v. public denial. Others saying this could just be a previously scheduled P5 session.

NYT: "In principle" now added.
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« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2012, 07:24:05 PM »

With the WH denying it I dont see how it helps Obama in the debate.

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« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2012, 07:25:33 PM »

Could be a sneaky Romney campaign thing -- reminding voters that the negotiations haven't happened (without making Romney or someone associated with him call for them themselves) and making the WH look bad. Probably not, the WH can achieve looking bad on its own.
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« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2012, 07:27:28 PM »

Could be a sneaky Romney campaign thing -- reminding voters that the negotiations haven't happened (without making Romney or someone associated with him call for them themselves) and making the WH look bad. Probably not, the WH can achieve looking bad on its own.
This is what I see at this point, too. Brilliant stuff, really. From a purely strategic standpoint, it's wonderfully cunning. Romney is as horrifically wrong on the issue of Iran as one can be, and his Presidency would be a foreign disaster, but if his men are behind this, it's at least a well made move.


I'm praying that they're just holding off the announcement a tad for some reason and just doing it a little awkwardly.
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« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2012, 07:49:14 PM »

Even if true, it will be a "negotiation from strength" argument. 
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« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2012, 08:05:07 PM »

If this is true, the fascists will of course spin this as "the black is weak on protecting America!".

Why would the Obama campaign try to make it look like Obama is weak on protecting America?
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« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2012, 09:05:40 PM »

I suspect that this has far more to do with Iranian politics than American politics.  What has been said so far doesn't seem to benefit either campaign.
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« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2012, 09:26:32 PM »

The White House is denying it FWIW.... don't get your hopes up.

It is bad diplomacy to brag about impending successes. So far I will go along with the successful Bush I/Clinton diplomacy and trust in intelligence agencies that President Obama has adopted from January 2009.  

The Iranian regime has something to offer -- and something to get. Maybe survival. Our President ordinarily gets diplomatic matters right.  

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« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2012, 09:27:52 PM »

If this is true, the fascists will of course spin this as "the black is weak on protecting America!".

Why would the Obama campaign try to make it look like Obama is weak on protecting America?

ZING!
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« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2012, 09:45:38 PM »

With the WH denying it I dont see how it helps Obama in the debate.

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A side note: In my opinion this is the Iranians trying to play with the American elections.
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