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« on: October 24, 2012, 03:21:01 PM »

http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/10/uvagmu-poll-romney-edges-obama-in-virginia-147104.html


Romney 46
Obama 45


Great news! Especially as this is among registered voters.
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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2012, 03:22:37 PM »

What is this, like the third garbage poll from VA in a row?
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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2012, 03:23:45 PM »

In his desperation, krazen is latching onto Uni polls within the margin of error.
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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2012, 03:24:15 PM »

How is this good news?

It basically a statistical tie.
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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2012, 03:25:21 PM »

If that's accurate, then so is this.
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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2012, 03:28:46 PM »

I noticed RCP found a way to not include it in their average, by saying its too old.
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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2012, 03:29:59 PM »

No track record so it's tough to tell but it  confirms that VA is still a tossup.
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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2012, 03:31:07 PM »

Good, but still a Uni poll. 
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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2012, 03:31:18 PM »

uni poll, trash it
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« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2012, 05:40:57 PM »

Krazey is getting pretty desperate.
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« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2012, 05:46:34 PM »

Being up by only 1 in a Confederate state isn't anything to be happy about anyway. If he's barely holding on to Virginia, Ohio is out of reach as we all know.
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« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2012, 05:49:01 PM »

Don't trust the source, but the result looks about right.
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« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2012, 05:50:18 PM »

Romney isnt gonna win. he can't win. Obama will slowly build up his lead and is Approval is on the rise as well. next week these polls will be O +7.
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« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2012, 05:52:12 PM »

Romney isnt gonna win. he can't win. Obama will slowly build up his lead and is Approval is on the rise as well. next week these polls will be O +7.
Yeah, no
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« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2012, 07:34:47 PM »

Romney isnt gonna win. he can't win. Obama will slowly build up his lead and is Approval is on the rise as well. next week these polls will be O +7.
Yeah, no

Yeah, That's being a little too optimistic.  It's close to a fantasy than any optimism.
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« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2012, 11:46:52 PM »

Romney isnt gonna win. he can't win. Obama will slowly build up his lead and is Approval is on the rise as well. next week these polls will be O +7.
Except that the Democrats' early-vote share in Virginia is well off of the '08 pace in pro-Obama areas according to Cook as compared to those areas which were McCain strongholds.

But you're right. Obama is cruising to victory in Virginia otherwise...
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« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2012, 04:20:51 PM »


Then why isn't this one in the data?
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« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2012, 04:25:04 PM »


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« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2012, 05:29:50 PM »


Ah, the month long Old Dominion one is in the data base; this one isn't. 
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« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2012, 07:38:57 PM »


Many polls that have threads aren't in the database.  It's not as exhaustive as it should be.
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« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2012, 07:42:13 PM »


Many polls that have threads aren't in the database.  It's not as exhaustive as it should be.

One that is has a sample period running from 9/19 to 10/17, also a uni poll, from the same state. 
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« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2012, 07:45:59 PM »


Many polls that have threads aren't in the database.  It's not as exhaustive as it should be.

One that is has a sample period running from 9/19 to 10/17, also a uni poll, from the same state. 

Well, most of the posters inputting polls have red avatars.  Thus, it's no surprise that some of the Romney-leaning polls have fallen through the cracks.  The decision to castigate all polls by pollsters that Democrats don't like, like Gravis Marketing, is extremely perplexing.  But I'm not willing to sign up for an ID to input polls, so I really have no business complaining.
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« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2012, 07:52:30 PM »


Many polls that have threads aren't in the database.  It's not as exhaustive as it should be.

One that is has a sample period running from 9/19 to 10/17, also a uni poll, from the same state. 

Well, most of the posters inputting polls have red avatars.  Thus, it's no surprise that some of the Romney-leaning polls have fallen through the cracks.  The decision to castigate all polls by pollsters that Democrats don't like, like Gravis Marketing, is extremely perplexing.  But I'm not willing to sign up for an ID to input polls, so I really have no business complaining.

I can very easily see excluding Gravis, and I agree with excluding it.

The Old Dominion poll has some major problems and really shouldn't be in the database.  This one, aside from being a Uni poll, has no problems on this level.  It suffers from the same defects that all Uni polls have, but many others are included. 
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« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2012, 07:58:56 PM »

Is there a release for this poll? The Politico article says the numbers are Romney 46, Obama 45, 2 undecided and 2 other... which only adds up to 95%. Also Dave Leip usually wants the poll question entered into the database as well.

The poll is also not entered in 538, Pollster.com, or RCP so don't act like it's some conspiracy.
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« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2012, 08:17:23 PM »

Is there a release for this poll? The Politico article says the numbers are Romney 46, Obama 45, 2 undecided and 2 other... which only adds up to 95%. Also Dave Leip usually wants the poll question entered into the database as well.

The poll is also not entered in 538, Pollster.com, or RCP so don't act like it's some conspiracy.

This is all that I could find:  http://www.cavalierdaily.com/blog/hoos4news/2012/10/romney-obama-effectively-tied

It is not a great poll, and has two week survey period, but it is a lot better as a poll than OD one. 
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