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« on: October 25, 2012, 05:37:08 PM »

better polls for Romney than earlier.  CO still a weak spot for Obama, been that way for a looonnngggg time. 
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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2012, 05:38:28 PM »

NV is a tease for Romney...time to pull all resources out
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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2012, 05:39:53 PM »

CO continues to poll close the the national avg. NBC's latest national poll was also a tie.  NV remains part of the Obama firewall.
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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2012, 05:47:48 PM »

CO continues to poll close the the national avg. NBC's latest national poll was also a tie.  NV remains part of the Obama firewall.

It's down to Ohio, Obama has WI and NV in the bag.  He wins Ohio and it's over.
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« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2012, 05:47:51 PM »

better polls for Romney than earlier.  CO still a weak spot for Obama, been that way for a looonnngggg time. 

Yea, what is up out there? Suburban moderates warming to Romney? Hopefully there is a hidden Latino vote not being polled.
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« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2012, 05:48:35 PM »

The fact that CO and VA appear to be the closest states instead of OH, WI or NV tells you all you need to know about this election.
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« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2012, 05:52:15 PM »

better polls for Romney than earlier.  CO still a weak spot for Obama, been that way for a looonnngggg time. 

Yea, what is up out there? Suburban moderates warming to Romney? Hopefully there is a hidden Latino vote not being polled.

I can't say for sure, but Obama's approval hit the skids out in Colorado way before the rest of the country.  Probably libertarian-leaning Republicans who have been voting that way forever and took a flier on Obama in 2008.  Maybe someone who knows a bit more about CO could bring something substantive to the convo, because I don't really know for sure why NM and NV seem so solid for him and CO is on the brink of swinging 10 pts away while it's presumably becoming more diverse and Democratic. 

I think he holds on, but it's not going to be anywhere near the 9 pt spread he enjoyed in 2008, obviously.
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« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2012, 06:02:11 PM »

better polls for Romney than earlier.  CO still a weak spot for Obama, been that way for a looonnngggg time. 

Yea, what is up out there? Suburban moderates warming to Romney? Hopefully there is a hidden Latino vote not being polled.

I can't say for sure, but Obama's approval hit the skids out in Colorado way before the rest of the country.  Probably libertarian-leaning Republicans who have been voting that way forever and took a flier on Obama in 2008.  Maybe someone who knows a bit more about CO could bring something substantive to the convo, because I don't really know for sure why NM and NV seem so solid for him and CO is on the brink of swinging 10 pts away while it's presumably becoming more diverse and Democratic. 

I think he holds on, but it's not going to be anywhere near the 9 pt spread he enjoyed in 2008, obviously.
I think that's it. People for some reason are under the impression that Colorado is like Nevada and New Mexico. But Colorado has more GOP-Leaning indies than NV and NM. And it has way more whites there than the other two. It's demographics are changing, but not quick enough to make it as D-Leaning as its sister states in The West.
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« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2012, 06:05:21 PM »

There are a lot of white independents in Colorado, which is why it is trending Republican. I also wouldn't be surprised if the entire west, excluding Arizona, trends Republican.
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« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2012, 06:18:10 PM »

I think the polls might still be underestimating Obama in the west. Could see him winning NV by 6 and CO by 3 for instance. In both 2008,2010 this happened and not in other regions.
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« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2012, 06:20:51 PM »

I think the polls might still be underestimating Obama in the west. Could see him winning NV by 6 and CO by 3 for instance. In both 2008,2010 this happened and not in other regions.

CO is right around the nat'l average and I have Obama winning the PV by 3.5 when all said and done, so I think you are right.  NV will be a bit higher... 54-45 perhaps. 
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« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2012, 06:35:41 PM »

If Obama can hold CO he has a pretty easy path to win even if he loses FL, OH, VA and NC.  So this issue of if Latinos are underpolling like 2008 and 2010 is a big one.
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« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2012, 06:38:10 PM »

If Obama can hold CO he has a pretty easy path to win even if he loses FL, OH, VA and NC.  So this issue of if Latinos are underpolling like 2008 and 2010 is a big one.

He can also lose NH, so it's not that easy (3-2-1).
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« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2012, 08:46:00 PM »

This is good and bad. The numbers seem right and I think Romney will win CO, but this makes Marist Ohio numbers seem legit. 
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« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2012, 09:11:38 PM »

NV is still the toughest for Romney, he's within three with a reasonable (for one of the terrible three) turnout of D+6 vs D+8 in 08.  04 was R+4, so we'll see I bet it's closer to D+2 at best. Racial demographics at least look realistic too, unlike alot of polls where the demographics are manipulated to show turnouts similar to 08.  All in all Romney is within 3 there, I think NV will be real close, Mccain gave up on NV last time, Romney is not you won't get the turnout you think. Be real close.

CO, Turnout D+1, not going to happen, in 08 it was R+1 and in 04 it was R+9. Racial demos are also off in this poll vs 08.  At worst/best it'll be R+4 this time, Romney has CO in the bag. Romney by 5
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« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2012, 10:53:55 PM »

NV is still the toughest for Romney, he's within three with a reasonable (for one of the terrible three) turnout of D+6 vs D+8 in 08.  04 was R+4, so we'll see I bet it's closer to D+2 at best. Racial demographics at least look realistic too, unlike alot of polls where the demographics are manipulated to show turnouts similar to 08.  All in all Romney is within 3 there, I think NV will be real close, Mccain gave up on NV last time, Romney is not you won't get the turnout you think. Be real close.

CO, Turnout D+1, not going to happen, in 08 it was R+1 and in 04 it was R+9. Racial demos are also off in this poll vs 08.  At worst/best it'll be R+4 this time, Romney has CO in the bag. Romney by 5

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« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2012, 11:02:32 PM »

NV is pretty much out of the question for Romney.

CO is a complete tossup. Gun to my head, I'd give it to Romney... but there'd be about a 49% of a bullet going through my brain.
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« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2012, 11:07:03 PM »

based on early voting released from the CO SOS, Romney should win this no problem. They're ahead by 20k votes or so.
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