GER-Infratest Dimap/ARD: Obama's support surges past 90% after final debate

[Tender Branson]

1000 German voters questioned by the Infratest dimap pollsters (which always do the Exit Polls in German elections) for ARD television between Oct. 23 and 24:



Germany is not a swing state either ...

[Tender Branson]

PS:

3% would vote for none of them (+1)
1% say that they don't care (nc)
2% are undecided (-2)

[Franzl]

There were a lot of jokes about Romney's "geographical" issue in the debate. And Romney was generally seen as clueless on foreign policy. This debate actually got a good deal of attention , there was even a 100% translated replay on TV.

[Tender Branson]

Do you think that there's a slight chance that more voters in certain European countries like Germany, Austria, France etc. are actually more informed about the US Presidential race/candidates than let's say American voters in non-swing states like Alaska, Idaho etc. ?

Or is it just the high popularity and name recognition of Obama that's driving down the share of undecideds here in Central Europe, combined with an extreme dislike of investment/banking figures like Romney ?

At least everyone I talk to seems to have a firm opinion right now about who they back in the US presidential race. Maybe some teenagers and a few old people remain uninformed.

[Franzl]

I think there's a large portion (50% maybe) that hear Obama and automatically support him. Then there's just the standard "Democrats are rational, Republicans are crazy" people. I personally doubt most people here know much about the actual issues.

It's more just a standard: "Romney wants to take away healthcare , make the rich richer and probably go to war with someone." (Which happens to be largely true because the stereotypr is mostly accurate , but I wouldn't really call it being informed.)

[DemPGH]

Haha, these just make me think what could be in America. The folks from Europe and Canada who I know are appalled at our healthcare system, to start with. How can we be as rich as we are and not have an NHS? Well, look at what we spend on silly wars and international meddling.

[Franzl]

Haha, these just make me think what could be in America. The folks from Europe and Canada who I know are appalled at our healthcare system, to start with. How can we be as rich as we are and not have an NHS? Well, look at what we spend on silly wars and international meddling.

Most countries don't have an NHS.

[DemPGH]

Haha, these just make me think what could be in America. The folks from Europe and Canada who I know are appalled at our healthcare system, to start with. How can we be as rich as we are and not have an NHS? Well, look at what we spend on silly wars and international meddling.

Most countries don't have an NHS.

In Europe?

[Franzl]

Haha, these just make me think what could be in America. The folks from Europe and Canada who I know are appalled at our healthcare system, to start with. How can we be as rich as we are and not have an NHS? Well, look at what we spend on silly wars and international meddling.

Most countries don't have an NHS.

In Europe?

Can't think of any system in Europe quite like the British one , to be honest.

[DemPGH]

Haha, these just make me think what could be in America. The folks from Europe and Canada who I know are appalled at our healthcare system, to start with. How can we be as rich as we are and not have an NHS? Well, look at what we spend on silly wars and international meddling.

Most countries don't have an NHS.

In Europe?

Can't think of any system in Europe quite like the British one , to be honest.

Oh, well I mean that there's something, maybe not identical to the British system, but there's something. You're not on your own or exclusively employer-based, like here. If so, that's news to me.

[Franzl]

Haha, these just make me think what could be in America. The folks from Europe and Canada who I know are appalled at our healthcare system, to start with. How can we be as rich as we are and not have an NHS? Well, look at what we spend on silly wars and international meddling.

Most countries don't have an NHS.

In Europe?

Can't think of any system in Europe quite like the British one , to be honest.

Oh, well I mean that there's something, maybe not identical to the British system, but there's something. You're not on your own or exclusively employer-based, like here. If so, that's news to me.

Oh no of course not. Can't think of any place in Europe without universal access, but the NHS is a state-run system funded through taxation. Most of Europe has more of a private element.

[minionofmidas]

Who are these three percent, I wonder.

[Franzl]

Who are these three percent, I wonder.

I asked that in the last German poll thread... I literally have no idea what kind of person here would prefer Romney. I know nobody who does.

With 3%.... NPD voters + a few senior citizens perhaps?

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

Despite the Germans' reactionary attitude (to a ridiculous and disgusting degree) in the 1930s.. they are typically very accurate when it comes to global issues when their insane view from WWII is disregarded.. 

As a German-American, this is a pleasing result. 

[cavalcade]

Or is it just the high popularity and name recognition of Obama that's driving down the share of undecideds here in Central Europe, combined with an extreme dislike of investment/banking figures like Romney ?

Popularity of Obama + unpopularity of Bush.

[Franzl]

Or is it just the high popularity and name recognition of Obama that's driving down the share of undecideds here in Central Europe, combined with an extreme dislike of investment/banking figures like Romney ?

Popularity of Obama + unpopularity of Bush.

True, the Bush factor is still quite relevant, most people not being able to understand how the discredited party of Bush could be close to coming back to power a mere 4 years later (or only 2 years later for Congres).

This could, to an extent, be a result of different voting systems and party structures. Parties, to the extent that they even exist in America, aren't nearly as relevant.

[Speed of Sound]

We get it, we get it- every democratic country's electorate is 10x smarter than ours. No need to rub it in.

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

Who are these three percent, I wonder.

I asked that in the last German poll thread... I literally have no idea what kind of person here would prefer Romney. I know nobody who does.

With 3%.... NPD voters + a few senior citizens perhaps?

What anecdotal evidence I have would support that claim.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Who are these three percent, I wonder.

All those CDU voting Dentists and small Businessmen who have their taxes in Liechtenstein?

[minionofmidas]

Who are these three percent, I wonder.

All those CDU voting Dentists and small Businessmen who have their taxes in Liechtenstein?

These people all voted FDP in 2009, are closer to 10% of the actual votership (since they all actually vote), and anyways are just about the group of people spouting the least informed anti-American sentiments. They'd vote Obama.

[Hatman 🍁]

I know a few Republican supporters up here. But, Romney is probably closer to 20% in Canada. Anyways, these numbers are more pro Obama than African Americans.

[Franzl]

I know a few Republican supporters up here. But, Romney is probably closer to 20% in Canada. Anyways, these numbers are more pro Obama than African Americans.

Not incredibly surprising, Canada has some Conservatives out West that aren't that far away from Republicans in the US ideologically, right?

Romney is certainly a better fit for that part of the world than literally anywhere in Europe.

[Hatman 🍁]

I know a few Republican supporters up here. But, Romney is probably closer to 20% in Canada. Anyways, these numbers are more pro Obama than African Americans.

Not incredibly surprising, Canada has some Conservatives out West that aren't that far away from Republicans in the US ideologically, right?

Romney is certainly a better fit for that part of the world than literally anywhere in Europe.

True. I think the US election if held in say, Alberta would look a lot like the last provincial election where PC voters would go  Obama and Wildrose voters would go Romney.  I know one provincial riding in Alberta where Romney would definitely win: Cardston-Taber-Warner which has a high proportion of Mormons.

[Seriously?]

There's also a cult following in Germany for the music of David Hasselhoff.

Until German citizens are given the right to vote here, file this under who cares. We are not electing a President of Germany here. We're electing a President of the United States.

[Franzl]

There's also a cult following in Germany for the music of David Hasselhoff.

Until German citizens are given the right to vote here, file this under who cares. We are not electing a President of Germany here. We're electing a President of the United States.

Well this particular German citizen does have the right to vote in the US.

(And I don't really understand the hostility among the American right-wing to hearing perspectives from abroad. Nobody's saying it's actually relevant. But it does show you the American electorate is relatively far from the First World mainstream. Make of that what you will.)