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« Reply #25 on: November 03, 2012, 08:17:37 pm »

Bolger is a pretty good pollster.  Might want to check people's accuracy before you dismiss. Cheesy
All the skepticism and snickering on the left about this poll that at minimum shows why it's moved in play for Romney.

I hope I'll be snickering come Tuesday when Obama can't win Mondale's only state in '84 (aside from DC, the original Democrat welfare state paradise).
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« Reply #26 on: November 03, 2012, 08:54:53 pm »

Far-right organization -- ferociously anti-union, calls almost all government activity 'socialist'.

http://www.americansforfreedom.org/   

Probably should be called "Americans for Fascism".
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« Reply #27 on: November 03, 2012, 09:27:27 pm »

Why must Democrats laugh at polls which show there guy, suffering setbacks or losses? I guess you must be depending on premise, that the magic of 2008 is still there; the facts I will point out, speak of a different sort of outcome.
Here are several reasons why, don't ignore them, well at least note them, but they are for the following reasons.
1. This is 2012, not 2008.
2. McCain is not the Republican nominee, and Dubya ain't the President.
3. Obama is the President, he has a record, defend it, don't defend it, that's your choice, but it's a bitch.
4. $16 Trillion debt, and not the $12 Trillion Obama inherited.
5. A record, well you can be the judge on it's merits; but it does speak volumes, when Mr. Obama is unwilling to defend it.
6. Polling data which shows a Obama advantage in the swing states, is suspect; most polls reflect a certain Democratic bias and are based on the outcome in 2008, very dangerous; the more accurate would take samplings from the last four elections (2004,2006, 2008 and 2010).
7. There is 10% Republican enthusiasm advantage.
8. The primary issue in this election is about the Economy and Jobs.
9. Crowd sizes at rallies (e.g. Obama rally in Dubuque, Iowa was considerably smaller than in 2008 - Obama campaign spin, concentration of efforts in getting out vote, that maybe true, but then how do you explain 2008? I mean I presume the Obama campaign in that election were concentrating there efforts in ensuring they had a robust get out the vote effort and the crowds as we all know were huge at Obama rallies and so so at McCain rallies.
10. Being dismissive about Minnesota or any other state that went for Obama in '08, trending towards Romney, doesn't remove or alter the fact that Clinton is in the state; but I guess there is a logical reason for that. The fundamentals of Obama of being in a strong position are not convincing to me or a few others. I am guided by what my "lying eyes" and senses tell me and not the faulty spin of Democrats or the Obama re-election effort: knowledge is a pretty strong tool; so convince those who live in a cave, and not one, who has access to the internet, cable news and other media outlets at there disposal.
Of course I could or might be wrong in my analysis, but I seriously doubt it. Just over 70 hours until Election day, but time will enlighten all, see ya on Election Night, I will be either gloating or eating crow.
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« Reply #28 on: November 03, 2012, 09:29:20 pm »

Haha, this really made my day.

Why must Democrats laugh at polls which show there guy, suffering setbacks or losses? I guess you must be depending on premise, that the magic of 2008 is still there; the facts I will point out, speak of a different sort of outcome.
Here are several reasons why, don't ignore them, well at least note them, but they are for the following reasons.
1. This is 2012, not 2008.
2. McCain is not the Republican nominee, and Dubya ain't the President.
3. Obama is the President, he has a record, defend it, don't defend it, that's your choice, but it's a bitch.
4. $16 Trillion debt, and not the $12 Trillion Obama inherited.
5. A record, well you can be the judge on it's merits; but it does speak volumes, when Mr. Obama is unwilling to defend it.
6. Polling data which shows a Obama advantage in the swing states, is suspect; most polls reflect a certain Democratic bias and are based on the outcome in 2008, very dangerous; the more accurate would take samplings from the last four elections (2004,2006, 2008 and 2010).
7. There is 10% Republican enthusiasm advantage.
8. The primary issue in this election is about the Economy and Jobs.
9. Crowd sizes at rallies (e.g. Obama rally in Dubuque, Iowa was considerably smaller than in 2008 - Obama campaign spin, concentration of efforts in getting out vote, that maybe true, but then how do you explain 2008? I mean I presume the Obama campaign in that election were concentrating there efforts in ensuring they had a robust get out the vote effort and the crowds as we all know were huge at Obama rallies and so so at McCain rallies.
10. Being dismissive about Minnesota or any other state that went for Obama in '08, trending towards Romney, doesn't remove or alter the fact that Clinton is in the state; but I guess there is a logical reason for that. The fundamentals of Obama of being in a strong position are not convincing to me or a few others. I am guided by what my "lying eyes" and senses tell me and not the faulty spin of Democrats or the Obama re-election effort: knowledge is a pretty strong tool; so convince those who live in a cave, and not one, who has access to the internet, cable news and other media outlets at there disposal.
Of course I could or might be wrong in my analysis, but I seriously doubt it. Just over 70 hours until Election day, but time will enlighten all, see ya on Election Night, I will be either gloating or eating crow.

Or maybe it's because this contradicts every other poll out there.
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« Reply #29 on: November 03, 2012, 09:29:46 pm »

LOL
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« Reply #30 on: November 03, 2012, 09:30:45 pm »

Well, I suppose it's appropriate that heatmaster is from the land that brought you Finnegans Wake.
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« Reply #31 on: November 03, 2012, 09:32:26 pm »

Why must Democrats laugh at polls which show there guy, suffering setbacks or losses? I guess you must be depending on premise, that the magic of 2008 is still there; the facts I will point out, speak of a different sort of outcome.
Here are several reasons why, don't ignore them, well at least note them, but they are for the following reasons.
1. This is 2012, not 2008.
2. McCain is not the Republican nominee, and Dubya ain't the President.
3. Obama is the President, he has a record, defend it, don't defend it, that's your choice, but it's a bitch.
4. $16 Trillion debt, and not the $12 Trillion Obama inherited.
5. A record, well you can be the judge on it's merits; but it does speak volumes, when Mr. Obama is unwilling to defend it.
6. Polling data which shows a Obama advantage in the swing states, is suspect; most polls reflect a certain Democratic bias and are based on the outcome in 2008, very dangerous; the more accurate would take samplings from the last four elections (2004,2006, 2008 and 2010).
7. There is 10% Republican enthusiasm advantage.
8. The primary issue in this election is about the Economy and Jobs.
9. Crowd sizes at rallies (e.g. Obama rally in Dubuque, Iowa was considerably smaller than in 2008 - Obama campaign spin, concentration of efforts in getting out vote, that maybe true, but then how do you explain 2008? I mean I presume the Obama campaign in that election were concentrating there efforts in ensuring they had a robust get out the vote effort and the crowds as we all know were huge at Obama rallies and so so at McCain rallies.
10. Being dismissive about Minnesota or any other state that went for Obama in '08, trending towards Romney, doesn't remove or alter the fact that Clinton is in the state; but I guess there is a logical reason for that. The fundamentals of Obama of being in a strong position are not convincing to me or a few others. I am guided by what my "lying eyes" and senses tell me and not the faulty spin of Democrats or the Obama re-election effort: knowledge is a pretty strong tool; so convince those who live in a cave, and not one, who has access to the internet, cable news and other media outlets at there disposal.
Of course I could or might be wrong in my analysis, but I seriously doubt it. Just over 70 hours until Election day, but time will enlighten all, see ya on Election Night, I will be either gloating or eating crow.

I can't read that. I just can't.
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« Reply #32 on: November 03, 2012, 09:36:13 pm »

This pollster correctly called Nevada for Reid in 2010.
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« Reply #33 on: November 03, 2012, 09:37:10 pm »

Finnegan's Wake! Whatever; I'm just looking at what's going down, you can't argue with reality; but of course you are welcome to, interesting you bring up Finnegan's Wake, hmm.
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« Reply #34 on: November 03, 2012, 10:50:02 pm »

Finnegan's Wake! Whatever; I'm just looking at what's going down, you can't argue with reality; but of course you are welcome to, interesting you bring up Finnegan's Wake, hmm.
It's true that you can't argue with reality. Which is probably why you offer only rhetoric in support of your position, and not evidence.
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« Reply #35 on: November 03, 2012, 11:03:37 pm »

I apologise on behalf on the nation for heatmaster's posts.
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« Reply #36 on: November 04, 2012, 04:12:29 am »

Bolger is a pretty good pollster.  Might want to check people's accuracy before you dismiss. Cheesy
All the skepticism and snickering on the left about this poll that at minimum shows why it's moved in play for Romney.

I hope I'll be snickering come Tuesday when Obama can't win Mondale's only state in '84 (aside from DC, the original Democrat welfare state paradise).

Good luck with that. Maybe Obama will win South Carolina too.
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« Reply #37 on: November 09, 2012, 02:21:11 am »

EPIC FAIL.
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« Reply #38 on: November 09, 2012, 02:30:16 am »

Bolger is a pretty good pollster.  Might want to check people's accuracy before you dismiss. Cheesy
All the skepticism and snickering on the left about this poll that at minimum shows why it's moved in play for Romney.

I hope I'll be snickering come Tuesday when Obama can't win Mondale's only state in '84 (aside from DC, the original Democrat welfare state paradise).
Soooooooooo.................
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« Reply #39 on: November 09, 2012, 09:42:52 am »

LoL S
Seriously?,  Cliffy and specially heatmaster were right.
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« Reply #40 on: November 09, 2012, 09:46:10 am »

LOL
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« Reply #41 on: November 09, 2012, 12:25:42 pm »

Why must Democrats laugh at polls which show there guy, suffering setbacks or losses? I guess you must be depending on premise, that the magic of 2008 is still there; the facts I will point out, speak of a different sort of outcome.
Here are several reasons why, don't ignore them, well at least note them, but they are for the following reasons.
1. This is 2012, not 2008.
2. McCain is not the Republican nominee, and Dubya ain't the President.
3. Obama is the President, he has a record, defend it, don't defend it, that's your choice, but it's a bitch.
4. $16 Trillion debt, and not the $12 Trillion Obama inherited.
5. A record, well you can be the judge on it's merits; but it does speak volumes, when Mr. Obama is unwilling to defend it.
6. Polling data which shows a Obama advantage in the swing states, is suspect; most polls reflect a certain Democratic bias and are based on the outcome in 2008, very dangerous; the more accurate would take samplings from the last four elections (2004,2006, 2008 and 2010).
7. There is 10% Republican enthusiasm advantage.
8. The primary issue in this election is about the Economy and Jobs.
9. Crowd sizes at rallies (e.g. Obama rally in Dubuque, Iowa was considerably smaller than in 2008 - Obama campaign spin, concentration of efforts in getting out vote, that maybe true, but then how do you explain 2008? I mean I presume the Obama campaign in that election were concentrating there efforts in ensuring they had a robust get out the vote effort and the crowds as we all know were huge at Obama rallies and so so at McCain rallies.
10. Being dismissive about Minnesota or any other state that went for Obama in '08, trending towards Romney, doesn't remove or alter the fact that Clinton is in the state; but I guess there is a logical reason for that. The fundamentals of Obama of being in a strong position are not convincing to me or a few others. I am guided by what my "lying eyes" and senses tell me and not the faulty spin of Democrats or the Obama re-election effort: knowledge is a pretty strong tool; so convince those who live in a cave, and not one, who has access to the internet, cable news and other media outlets at there disposal.
Of course I could or might be wrong in my analysis, but I seriously doubt it. Just over 70 hours until Election day, but time will enlighten all, see ya on Election Night, I will be either gloating or eating crow.


Who's the epic fail now. Minnesota was not close after all. The result was 52-45

nice try though. WI wasn't close either 52-46. How about that des moines register endorsement seems it might made things worse for romney the score was 51-46. PA was a waste of time and money obama took it quick 52-46.
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