I'm quitting the Atlas Forum

[Antonio the Sixth]

Kevin was one of the most ridiculous posters. Spends half of his posting history calling everybody a hack and the rest at being a hack.

ZOMGZ 20,000th post!!!

Didn't see that coming, I'd rather have spared it for a better occasion.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

I don't know Kevin

[The Mikado]

How is it hackish to say Obama would win 310-350 EVs? 

[Antonio the Sixth]

This forum also used to be a place very much in touch with political reality as a whole but not anymore just earlier I was reading that the average gauge of electoral votes for Obama is going to be around 310-350

Oh God, didn't see this. That's sig material.

[King]

I saw Kevin was online yesterday.  Funny he still hasn't posted anything since the election results proved to have the same hackish left bias as the forum.

[Franzl]

I saw Kevin was online yesterday.  Funny he still hasn't posted anything since the election results proved to have the same hackish left bias as the forum.

Because Kevin is one of the biggest hacks we've had.

[pbrower2a]

... I've become turned off to the Atlas, by the fact that composition of this forum has changed from a place on the internet where posters from all sorts of political persuasions could have interesting, reasonable and semi-civilized conversations about politics. To a Forum that is dominated by far-left posters who appear to only be on here to push their talking points and drive out those who don't agree with them. This problem can be seen in several ways.

Sometimes, reality has a corporatist-traditionalist bias. Sometimes it has a liberal bias.

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Mitt Romney seemed like the best of a largely-awful lot. Barack Obama was the incumbent, and he had done everything that an incumbent has to do to get re-elected and nothing happened that usually creates an opening for a challenger.   The incumbent President was able to foster a campaign similar to what he ran in 2008 but had to narrow it out of fear of deep-pocket opposition and that political conditions of 2010 were still relevant.

Right-wingers were comparing President Obama to Jimmy Carter and Herbert Hoover, the last two incumbent Presidents to lose bids for re-election in landslides. Distortion of history (Barack Obama was a good steward of the economy unlike Hoover and solved more problems than emerged under him, much unlike Carter) is one form of hackery in political discourse, and I saw much of that.

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Barack Obama was consistently ahead in Virginia throughout 2012 and had won the state in 2008. I found it hard to believe (and I am a liberal) that Barack Obama could win Virginia  because the state had not gone for a Democratic nominee for President since the LBJ blowout and hadn't gone for a Democrat in a close election since 1948. Of course, where one lives in Virginia might decide whether one thinks that Obama was going to win or lose the state based upon personal experience. Appalachian Virginia was going more firmly R in 2008 than ever, but DC suburbs, Greater Richmond, and the Tidewater area were clearly drifting D. I'll take demographics over seat-of-the-pants analysis any day.

332 electoral votes is close to the mid-range of projections for 2012, and that is what President Obama got. Until the Romney put the horrible Spanish-language ad with the desperate effort to connect the President to Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez I thought that Romney would win Florida. 

We will never know whether Rick Scott would have stolen Florida for Romney. He never got the chance, and that is a good thing for everyone involved -- including Rick Scott. 

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Balanced? Objective reality trumps your idea of what constitutes balance.

[Napoleon]

Pbrower has found the Forum Community. Nowhere is safe!

[Torie]

Pbrower has found the Forum Community. Nowhere is safe!

[tmthforu94]

Pbrower has found the Forum Community. Nowhere is safe!

I'll quit if he comes to Atlasia!!

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

If nkpatel finds it we're all out of here.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

If nkpatel finds it we're all out of here.

Every time somebody mentions this name, a little kid somewhere is being eaten by a monster.

[politicus]

tl;dr. bye

It's a lot better when you just leave without saying goodbye. But of course, a lot of people do it so that they can get people telling them to stay.

I always figured that people who make goodbye threads are almost certain to be back. People who just fade from view however rarely come back or if they do it's just for one election.

Lewis was right on the money here.

Kevin was one of the most ridiculous posters. Spends half of his posting history calling everybody a hack and the rest at being a hack.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

What compelled you to bump this thread 2 months later?

[Leftbehind]

What compelled you to bump this thread 2 months later?

His return.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

It's true. 

The 2012 board has been nothing more than a cesspool of trash talk dominated by far leftist 12-14 year olds, or at least, a cesspool of trash talk dominated by far leftists, who post like they are 12-14 year olds.

More like the whole forum.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Am I the only one who doesn't know who Kevin is?

[Antonio the Sixth]

Am I the only one who doesn't know who Kevin is?

I don't know, but you're certainly better off that way.

[Sopranos Republican]

Huh, he left like 2-3 weeks before I joined.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

He was just your standard-issue cryptofascist adolescent from middle class suburbia, no?

I didn't get the impression he was crypto- anything.

[Torie]

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I must say I got a chuckle at this rather well crafted perfervid hyperbole. You know what? I am happiest when I alone, or near alone, in my little opinions. That way, I can make my case - undiluted by anyone else. This idea that you need allies, and so forth, in the public square of debate, always struck me as a bit odd. I never have thought that way, and usually have been a small minority of whatever sub public square soap box venue I have chosen to partake in. If your ideas are well crafted and documented, it doesn't matter if you have a million opponents. Your text stands on its own.

It is something for you youngs to think about as you go forward. It doesn't matter what the crowd thinks so much if you do your homework. It just gives you an opportunity to teach and inform, giving value indeed to the opposition. That at least has been my experience in life.