When will we see this map

[Kaine for Senate '18]

[Хahar 🤔]

Something weird will happen in about half a century, producing another 1936.

[memphis]

The percents being correct in every state is really unlikely statistically just because there are so many permutations. As far as every state being Dem except Nebraska, Wyoming, and Utah, I suppose it's possible though not currently foreseeable to have a Democratic Ronald Reagan in the next couple of decades.

[Stranger in a strange land]

barack obama runs in 2024 and becomes Reagan, FDR, and Martin Luther King all rolled into one.

[auburntiger]

It could happen sooner than people think, depending if a cataclysmic event takes place, and however the next president handles the War on Terror. Of course, we could see this too:

[MarkWarner08]

It could happen sooner than people think, depending if a cataclysmic event takes place, and however the next president handles the War on Terror. Of course, we could see this too:

How could Democrats win New York and lose Vermont?

[auburntiger]

It could happen sooner than people think, depending if a cataclysmic event takes place, and however the next president handles the War on Terror. Of course, we could see this too:

How could Democrats win New York and lose Vermont?

I always thought of NY as more of a Democratic bastion than VT. If you're assuming a 10% swing from 2004, you'd be right. Is VT more liberal than NY?

[War on Want]

It could happen sooner than people think, depending if a cataclysmic event takes place, and however the next president handles the War on Terror. Of course, we could see this too:

How could Democrats win New York and lose Vermont?

I always thought of NY as more of a Democratic bastion than VT. If you're assuming a 10% swing from 2004, you'd be right. Is VT more liberal than NY?

Vermont is more socially Liberal and New York is more economically liberal. Vermont has less partisanship too, so I would say that it is very possible that New York could be Democratic with Vermont being Republican.

[Fingolfin]

When we have on the ticket Chelsea Clinton with one of Bu$hes tweens. One will smoke without inale it, the other will drink her father bourbon and US will be led to an age of peace and prosperaty.

[HardRCafé]

Too bad the Best Newbie nominations are over.

[Fingolfin]

I will take that as a compliment

[7,052,770]

hopefully 2008

[Gabu]

I always thought of NY as more of a Democratic bastion than VT. If you're assuming a 10% swing from 2004, you'd be right. Is VT more liberal than NY?

Vermont's state legislature voted to approve impeaching Bush and Cheney.  I don't think they're too fond of the Republicans.

[gorkay]

I'd like to see it, but we won't, at least not in the foreseeable future.

[auburntiger]

I always thought of NY as more of a Democratic bastion than VT. If you're assuming a 10% swing from 2004, you'd be right. Is VT more liberal than NY?

Vermont's state legislature voted to approve impeaching Bush and Cheney.  I don't think they're too fond of the Republicans.

Maybe not...but it's the Bush-type Republicans that don't go over so well in the northeast. The VT governor is a Republican and favored to win re-election.

[SamInTheSouth]

I always thought of NY as more of a Democratic bastion than VT. If you're assuming a 10% swing from 2004, you'd be right. Is VT more liberal than NY?

Vermont's state legislature voted to approve impeaching Bush and Cheney.  I don't think they're too fond of the Republicans.

If the GOP ran a fiscally conservative, socially liberal candidate they could win in Vermont.  It wasn't all that long ago that Vermont was a Republican bastion.  There is a lot of libertarianism in the northeast and I think that is why the GOP has lost their place there because they have been catering more to social issues rather than more libertarian issues like they used to be.

[Verily]

I always thought of NY as more of a Democratic bastion than VT. If you're assuming a 10% swing from 2004, you'd be right. Is VT more liberal than NY?

Vermont's state legislature voted to approve impeaching Bush and Cheney.  I don't think they're too fond of the Republicans.

If the GOP ran a fiscally conservative, socially liberal candidate they could win in Vermont.  It wasn't all that long ago that Vermont was a Republican bastion.  There is a lot of libertarianism in the northeast and I think that is why the GOP has lost their place there because they have been catering more to social issues rather than more libertarian issues like they used to be.

Vermont, at least, has changed radically, and characterizing it as "libertarian" is hopelessly misguided. The state sends a self-professed socialist to the Senate, and the Vermont Progressive Party, a social democratic to socialist party, is the most successful state-level third party in the nation.

[SamInTheSouth]

I always thought of NY as more of a Democratic bastion than VT. If you're assuming a 10% swing from 2004, you'd be right. Is VT more liberal than NY?

Vermont's state legislature voted to approve impeaching Bush and Cheney.  I don't think they're too fond of the Republicans.

If the GOP ran a fiscally conservative, socially liberal candidate they could win in Vermont.  It wasn't all that long ago that Vermont was a Republican bastion.  There is a lot of libertarianism in the northeast and I think that is why the GOP has lost their place there because they have been catering more to social issues rather than more libertarian issues like they used to be.

Vermont, at least, has changed radically, and characterizing it as "libertarian" is hopelessly misguided. The state sends a self-professed socialist to the Senate, and the Vermont Progressive Party, a social democratic to socialist party, is the most successful state-level third party in the nation.

I am aware of that, but Martha Rainville still managed to get 45% of the vote in Vermont last year when she ran for Congress and that was a year in which the GOP was getting their butts whomped.  It's not hopeless yet.

[Verily]

I always thought of NY as more of a Democratic bastion than VT. If you're assuming a 10% swing from 2004, you'd be right. Is VT more liberal than NY?

Vermont's state legislature voted to approve impeaching Bush and Cheney.  I don't think they're too fond of the Republicans.

If the GOP ran a fiscally conservative, socially liberal candidate they could win in Vermont.  It wasn't all that long ago that Vermont was a Republican bastion.  There is a lot of libertarianism in the northeast and I think that is why the GOP has lost their place there because they have been catering more to social issues rather than more libertarian issues like they used to be.

Vermont, at least, has changed radically, and characterizing it as "libertarian" is hopelessly misguided. The state sends a self-professed socialist to the Senate, and the Vermont Progressive Party, a social democratic to socialist party, is the most successful state-level third party in the nation.

I am aware of that, but Martha Rainville still managed to get 45% of the vote in Vermont last year when she ran for Congress and that was a year in which the GOP was getting their butts whomped.  It's not hopeless yet.

Martha Rainville basically ran against everything the Republican Party stands for, too. Her "success" should be an indication of how hopeless Vermont is for Republicans. (I'm speaking in general terms; they do elect Republicans occasionally, such as their governor. Of course, even Massachusetts does that sometimes.)