Pennsylvania 2014 Discussion Thread

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

The attendance was horrendous. This probably costs Wolf a point or two.

are you serious? I could barely get a seat and the line stretched for blocks behind me. I think the back two sections upper deck didn't get filled, but everything else seemed to be.

[Keystone Phil]

The attendance was horrendous. This probably costs Wolf a point or two.

are you serious? I could barely get a seat and the line stretched for blocks behind me. I think the back two sections upper deck didn't get filled, but everything else seemed to be.

Dude, it wasn't a big crowd consisting the arena. He obviously wasn't going to fill the house but it also wasn't a gigantic attendance. Even the middle level wasn't entirely filled, if I saw correctly.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

The attendance was horrendous. This probably costs Wolf a point or two.

are you serious? I could barely get a seat and the line stretched for blocks behind me. I think the back two sections upper deck didn't get filled, but everything else seemed to be.

Dude, it wasn't a big crowd consisting the arena. He obviously wasn't going to fill the house but it also wasn't a gigantic attendance. Even the middle level wasn't entirely filled, if I saw correctly.

Had to be close to 4500 - maybe a tad under. They packed us in - no seat skipping in the 2nd tier. Hillary was barely 1000 if that (on a Thursday vs. a Sunday, but still). I guess arena considerations have to be made too, but you would think they give Hillary a bigger spot than she had.

[Keystone Phil]

Of course they had to pack you in. They already had a giant curtain up covering a good deal of the arena.

Look, it doesn't particularly matter either way.

[IceSpear]

Only 24 hours until One Term Tom is aborted!

Do you guys think they'll call it as soon as the polls close, or will they wait an hour or so first like they did for Obama and Casey?

[Vega]

Do you guys think they'll call it as soon as the polls close, or will they wait an hour or so first like they did for Obama and Casey?

They'll probably wait an hour.

[KCDem]

Only 24 hours until One Term Tom is aborted!

Do you guys think they'll call it as soon as the polls close, or will they wait an hour or so first like they did for Obama and Casey?

It's the media, of course they'll wait and hold out hope for their Darling Tom.

[DemPGH]

I think they'll wait an hour or hour and a half to call it to at least make sure that Wolf has enough of a lead where he's supposed to have it that it's insurmountable, and also out of respect for the position of the incumbent. Then they'll call it.

I'll be voting tomorrow morning sometime before 8:00 a.m., probably about 7:30 or so. At worst Wolf is ahead in high single digits and at best around 18, so I'll say 57-43 or 58-42 sounds about right to me.

I've received a number of calls from the Wolf folks; I got a "robo call" (I think that's what they're called) from Clinton today. GOPers I know have not been called a single time by the Corbett folks. 

[Lief 🗽]

Did they call the race for Casey immediately in 2006? Or did they wait for returns to come in?

Unless it takes an hour and a half for the first results to be counted in PA, I doubt they'll wait that long. If they don't call it immediately, they'll say it's "too early to call"; once they have a few percent in that should be enough to confirm the exit poll and they'll call it.

[Keystone Phil]

They called it immediately for Casey. They usually have a damn good idea right before 8 as to how many people turned out in Philly. If the Dems hit their quota, they usually call the race but the key word there is usually: I believe they hit their quota in 2010 but the beautiful wave across the rest of the state swept Toomey in.

The issue tomorrow is concern with turnout in Philly. There isn't much of a Wolf operation, he's refusing to give out the legendary street money for Dem workers and there's too much of a feeling that Wolf has it in the bag (ever wonder why he brought in the President, FLOTUS, Hillary, Bill?). Now I, for one, think Corbett is too passionately hated here for their turnout not to hit the mark but for argument's sake, if it doesn't, they'll hold off a bit on making a declaration. I'd be floored if it isn't called by 9. 

[IceSpear]

I think they'll wait an hour or hour and a half to call it to at least make sure that Wolf has enough of a lead where he's supposed to have it that it's insurmountable, and also out of respect for the position of the incumbent. Then they'll call it.

They didn't seem to care about "respect for the incumbent" here.

[angus]

FLOTUS

I don't like it.  POTUS is good, for obvious reasons, but FLOTUS sounds Latin for the bits of fecal matter swirling about the bowl after a low-flow toilet has been flushed by an overweight vegan after a huge meal.

[Keystone Phil]

Just to show you this isn't some PA Dem wave: the GOP have added a whopping eight seats to our majority in the State House. We are going to have a 119-84 lead! And we kept the Senate.

[IceSpear]

Just to show you this isn't some PA Dem wave: the GOP have added a whopping eight seats to our majority in the State House. We are going to have a 119-84 lead! And we kept the Senate.

Where are you getting the legislative results?

[Keystone Phil]

Just to show you this isn't some PA Dem wave: the GOP have added a whopping eight seats to our majority in the State House. We are going to have a 119-84 lead! And we kept the Senate.

Where are you getting the legislative results?

The Department of State

And we picked up at least one Senate seat.

I hope you're watching, Mr. Wolf (who is only up by 10% now)!

[IceSpear]

Maybe Corbett was preparing for a recount to see whether he'd lose by double digits or not?

It's 54.9-45.1 right now, so Wolf will definitely end up beating Corbett's 9.0% margin in 2010. But according to the NYT, the remaining precincts are mostly Philly/Delco, so could Wolf slip into a "real" (non rounded) double digit lead? The suspense is killing me!

[Keystone Phil]

Wolf's victory is unquestionably a hollow one. Those GOP gains in the legislature are amazing. 119 (!) total seats in the House now. Two pickups in the Senate while defending all of our seats. Wolf is going to have four very long years.

[Maxwell]

Wolf's victory is unquestionably a hollow one. Those GOP gains in the legislature are amazing. 119 (!) total seats in the House now. Two pickups in the Senate while defending all of our seats. Wolf is going to have four very long years.

His margin was way lower than I expected to be. Do you think Corbett would give 2018 a try?

[Keystone Phil]

Wolf's victory is unquestionably a hollow one. Those GOP gains in the legislature are amazing. 119 (!) total seats in the House now. Two pickups in the Senate while defending all of our seats. Wolf is going to have four very long years.

His margin was way lower than I expected to be. Do you think Corbett would give 2018 a try?

...uh, absolutely not.

[Keystone Phil]

Wait, wait. Sorry. GOP picked up three State Senate seats, currently at 30.

[Vega]

His margin was way lower than I expected to be. Do you think Corbett would give 2018 a try?

I want to say what's wrong with you, but instead, I'll just say... why?

[angus]

Congrats Phil.

[Maxwell]

His margin was way lower than I expected to be. Do you think Corbett would give 2018 a try?

I want to say what's wrong with you, but instead, I'll just say... why?

I was incredibly tired when I made that comment. I apologize.

[Vega]

His margin was way lower than I expected to be. Do you think Corbett would give 2018 a try?

I want to say what's wrong with you, but instead, I'll just say... why?

I was incredibly tired when I made that comment. I apologize.

It's fine. We all were.

[President Johnson]

His margin was way lower than I expected to be. Do you think Corbett would give 2018 a try?

I want to say what's wrong with you, but instead, I'll just say... why?

I was incredibly tired when I made that comment. I apologize.

It's fine. We all were.

I'd like to see him running again. But no, Corbett will retire, he's 65 years old.