Prince Charles says he is tired of waiting to beomce King..........

[minionofmidas]

I was wondering the same. Wikipedia:

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Note 138 is a The Times article now behind a registrationwall. Here's the 139 Guardian rebuttal:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2005/dec/27/monarchy.michaelwhite

Doesn't say he will be Charles III, mind.

[Joe Republic]

He could also pick Victoria II.  He'd be honoring his great-great-great-grandmother, and it would shake things up a bit.  Brits like surprises, I'm told.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

He could always lead the fight for Welsh independence and rule as King Siarl I of Cymru.

[politicus]

He could always lead the fight for Welsh independence and rule as King Siarl I of Cymru.

Or become Charles IV of Scotland after the referendum.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

He could always lead the fight for Welsh independence and rule as King Siarl I of Cymru.

Or become Charles IV of Scotland after the referendum.

If Scotland recognized the Jacobite secession and then for some reason switched over to him, he'd be Charles V, not the IV.  However, in the unlikely event that Scotland chose to invite the Jacobite line back, they certainly won't put Charles on the throne, but Francis II. (Assuming the current Duke of Bavaria is still alive by then - Francis is older than Charles, but younger than Elizabeth II.) 

[politicus]

He could always lead the fight for Welsh independence and rule as King Siarl I of Cymru.

Or become Charles IV of Scotland after the referendum.

If Scotland recognized the Jacobite secession and then for some reason switched over to him, he'd be Charles V, not the IV.  However, in the unlikely event that Scotland chose to invite the Jacobite line back, they certainly won't put Charles on the throne, but Francis II. (Assuming the current Duke of Bavaria is still alive by then - Francis is older than Charles, but younger than Elizabeth II.)  

Who would be Charles IV then? Bonnie Prince Charles was no. 3 and no Stuart claimed the Scottish throne after his brother Henry IX.

[Benj]

It's safe to say that his reign will be a lot shorter than his mother's.

Considering how long Queen Mom lived, his mother may very well outlife him.

Let's hope so. Useless twit.

Yes let hope the British queen see one of her children in the grave before her. Useless psychopath.

Hardly a big deal if they're both very old. Totally different from a parent burying a young child.

[politicus]

It's safe to say that his reign will be a lot shorter than his mother's.

Considering how long Queen Mom lived, his mother may very well outlife him.

Let's hope so. Useless twit.

Yes let hope the British queen see one of her children in the grave before her. Useless psychopath.

Hardly a big deal if they're both very old. Totally different from a parent burying a young child.

Pretty tasteless comment. If you are a 100 years old and your son is 75, you will not concider him "very old" and it is always painfull for a mother to lose a child, no matter the age.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

The reign of George VII will last 10 years tops. William the IV (assuming he keeps the name) will be on the throne for 30-40 years starting in the late 2020's. So it won't be all that bad for the British people .

Are you sure about George VII. Why not Charles III? Too Stuart?

Stuart=Catholic, so yep .

[politicus]

The reign of George VII will last 10 years tops. William the IV (assuming he keeps the name) will be on the throne for 30-40 years starting in the late 2020's. So it won't be all that bad for the British people .

Are you sure about George VII. Why not Charles III? Too Stuart?

Stuart=Catholic, so yep .

Lewis checked that issue (see earlier in the thread). His own staff denies the George VII thing.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Who would be Charles IV then? Bonnie Prince Charles was no. 3 and no Stuart claimed the Scottish throne after his brother Henry IX.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobite_succession

While he never bothered to actively pursue the matter, Charles Emmanuel IV of Sardinia was considered by the Jacobites to be Henry IX's heir, Charles IV.  I suppose a case could be made that the abdication he made of the Sardinian throne in 1802 after his wife's death in favor of his brother also included the Jacobite claims he inherited in 1809 from Henry IX.

[politicus]

Who would be Charles IV then? Bonnie Prince Charles was no. 3 and no Stuart claimed the Scottish throne after his brother Henry IX.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobite_succession

While he never bothered to actively pursue the matter, Charles Emmanuel IV of Sardinia was considered by the Jacobites to be Henry IX's heir, Charles IV.  I suppose a case could be made that the abdication he made of the Sardinian throne in 1802 after his wife's death in favor of his brother also included the Jacobite claims he inherited in 1809 from Henry IX.

I think the relevant fact here is that none of the Jacobite heirs since the death of Henry IX actually claimed the thrones Scotland and England or even incorporated the arms of England and Scotland in their coats-of-arms. So they wouldnt count as actual Kings of Scotland.
In my hypothetical scenario Prince Charles would be no. 4.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Am I the only one who finds all these gossips and speculations regarding the affairs of a family a tad creepy?

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Am I the only one who finds all these gossips and speculations regarding the affairs of a family a tad creepy?

Probably... but you're a young lefty, so a bit prone to unnecessary offense

[Lincoln Republican]

"Prince Charles says he is tired of waiting to beomce King.........."

When did he say that?  You're just making stuff up Winfield.

How dare you question my integrity sir? 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/prince-charles/9700402/Prince-Charles-Im-running-out-of-time.html

In a series of remarkably candid comments, Prince Charles hinted that he feared his legacy as king would be cut short.

During a visit to Dumfries House, the stately home in East Ayrshire which the Prince helped save for the nation, he joked about his reputation for pursuing projects with notorious vigour but made a poignant reference to his mortality.

He said: “Impatient? Me? What a thing to suggest! Yes of course I am.” He added: “I’ll run out of time soon. I shall have snuffed it if I’m not careful.”

The comments, which were recorded for a film on the Clarence House website about the Prince’s involvement with Dumfries House, will fuel ongoing speculation that Prince Charles, 64, is more eager than ever to take the throne after 60 years of waiting.

[Lincoln Republican]

I do not believe there is any way that Prince Charles, if and when he becomes King, will use any other name than King Charles III.

His entire life he has been known as Charles around the world, so I simply cannot see him using the name George after his grandfather, or any other name than Charles III.

As to the religion issue, the first Stuart king of England, King James I of England and James VI of Scotland, was Protestant.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

I do not believe there is any way that Prince Charles, if and when he becomes King, will use any other name than King Charles III.

His entire life he has been known as Charles around the world, so I simply cannot see him using the name George after his grandfather, or any other name than Charles III.

As to the religion issue, the first Stuart king of England, King James I of England and James VI of Scotland, was Protestant.

mmmm... it wouldn't surprise me at all if Charles uses George as his regnal name... Edward VII's name was Albert, as was George VI's. Plus his full name is Charles Philip Arthur George... so it's already one of his names.

As for the article... I think the it's choosing second-hand gossip and other's interpretations of what he's said. Nothing he's actually said suggests he's impatient to ascend the throne specifically, merely what I've always seen from him, he's someone who believes he still has a lot to give and lot left to do and he, like all of us, has a use-by-date. 

And as I've said, I doubt he will find the throne will give him MORE opportunity to achieve anything... more the opposite, it'll hog-tie him.

And even IF Charles is impatient about ascension... it's pointless, she's going nowhere.... when Queen Juliana of the Netherlands abdicated in 1980 in favour of her daughter Beatrix, apparently (so it's not in anyway confirmed) Elizabeth II jokingly said "well, that's the Dutch for you"

[Leftbehind]

Who cares?

Best post in the thread.

Yep. Meaningless sh**te.

[Velasco]

I said Charles, don't you ever crave
To appear on the front of the Daily Mail
Dressed in your Mother's bridal veil ?

Excerpt of The Queen is Dead lyrics by The Smiths (1986). Sorry, I cannot say nothing more relevant on this subject.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

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Edward VII was Prince Albert before ascending the throne, ftr.

[Simfan34]

Yes, but they'd waited for less time and spent less time in the spotlight. Keep in in mind Edward VII wasn't the heir until Albert Victor died. Prince Charles has spent his entire life waiting, do we really expect to start calling him George? It could be a renewal of sorts though. And I do like the sound of it though.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Yes, but they'd waited for less time and spent less time in the spotlight. Keep in in mind Edward VII wasn't the heir until Albert Victor died. Prince Charles has spent his entire life waiting, do we really expect to start calling him George? It could be a renewal of sorts though. And I do like the sound of it though.

Albert Victor was George V's elder brother, not Edward VII's

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Yes, but they'd waited for less time and spent less time in the spotlight. Keep in in mind Edward VII wasn't the heir until Albert Victor died. Prince Charles has spent his entire life waiting, do we really expect to start calling him George? It could be a renewal of sorts though. And I do like the sound of it though.

Edward VII was the heir since the very day he was born. And he waited exactly 60 years.

[Leftbehind]

I said Charles, don't you ever crave
To appear on the front of the Daily Mail
Dressed in your Mother's bridal veil ?

Excerpt of The Queen is Dead lyrics by The Smiths (1986). Sorry, I cannot say nothing more relevant on this subject.

Now we're talking.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ5F9yQCu_Y

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

mmmm... it wouldn't surprise me at all if Charles uses George as his regnal name... Edward VII's name was Albert, as was George VI's. Plus his full name is Charles Philip Arthur George... so it's already one of his names.

They (along with George V and Edward VIII)  had Albert as one of their names to please Victoria.  That didn't mean they wanted the name themselves.  If Vickie had had her way, the regnal names of all the kings that followed her would have been double-barrelled names beginning with Albert, in which case Charlie boy would become King Albert Charles I when he inherits the throne from his mother, Queen Alberta Elizabeth I.