Two wounded in San Antonio theater shooting thwarted by security guard

[krazen1211]

http://www.woai.com/mostpopular/story/Deputy-shoots-gunman-at-San-Antonio-movie-theater/2wFsix5ntU2CDrsHjXx2kQ.cspx

A man was shot by an off-duty deputy after investigators say he opened fire at a South Side theater Sunday night, injuring one person.

Garcia was finally stopped by an off-duty Bexar County Sheriff's Department officer who was working security at the theater. Officials said the officer, Sgt. Lisa Castellano, heard the gunfire inside the theater and ran towards the sound of the shooting to find out what was going on. Sgt. Castellano spotted Garcia coming out of a bathroom with his gun drawn and fired at him, shooting him four times.

"The officer involved, she took the appropriate action to try to keep everyone safe in the movie theater," Bexar County Sheriff's Office spokesperson Detective Lou Antu said.


http://www.idigitaltimes.com/articles/13746/20121217/san-antonio-shooting-2-wounded-gunman-opens-fire-movie-theater-santikos-mayan-palace.htm

The suspect was taken to the hospital and was not immediately charged. The extent of the injuries of the two who were injured was not known, but police said they did not sustain life-threatening injuries.

The shooting comes just days after Adam Lanza killed 27 at Sandy Hook Elementary school in Newtown Conn., and is the second movie theater shooting this year. The numerous shootings has many people on edge.

"It brings back memories of the other theater shooting, and the elementary school shooting," Cassandra Castillo, whose son works in the theater, told KENS. "You only think the worst."




Lisa Castellano is a great hero. It turns out that when the perp is shot, he is unable to carry out a rampage.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I know you find it hard, but please, please, please for the Love of God and all His Creation, stop being a big nasty meanie, krazen.

[krazen1211]

What about this story bothers you so much?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Stop gosh darn trolling you piece of poopie, it is not appropriate and (worse!) it is not even slightly funny.

[krazen1211]

I would say that your tantrum is kind of funny, though. Congrats.

[dead0man]

Stop gosh darn trolling you piece of poopie, it is not appropriate and (worse!) it is not even slightly funny.

It's a news story, you might not like it, you might think it's bad timing, but you don't have to be a giant anus about it.

[memphis]

Not sure what the intent of this thread is. Does krazen own stock in a security guard staffing company?  Not like anybody is anti security guard.

[krazen1211]

Not sure what the intent of this thread is. Does krazen own stock in a security guard staffing company?  Not like anybody is anti security guard.

Really? Then why did the Cinemark theater in Aurora have no security guards and a gun ban, while neighboring theaters allowed its patrons to carry guns and had a greater security force?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Not sure what the intent of this thread is.

Trolling.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Not sure what the intent of this thread is. Does krazen own stock in a security guard staffing company?  Not like anybody is anti security guard.

Really? Then why did the Cinemark theater in Aurora have no security guards and a gun ban, while neighboring theaters allowed its patrons to carry guns and had a greater security force?

At the risk of getting drawn in, I'll venture to say that the Cinemark in Aurora had no security guards because it's a cheap theater and guards cost money, and had a gun ban because gun bans are good (God forgive me for this pun) security theater.

[Mehmentum]

It was a very fortunate circumstance that this didn't turn into another mass shooting.  Maybe schools and such need more security guards?

[minionofmidas]

The problem is that a security guard who is effective in the rare situation where he is needed, but is not a pompous nuisance, a detriment to your business, and frankly a minor danger to customers is very hard to find and deserves a much higher salary than he is going to get.

All that leaves you with is a vague though not unjustified hope of deterrence.

[Beet]

Then there's this (from August):

"on Friday two New York City police officers engaged in a wild shootout with disgruntled gunman Jeffrey Johnson minutes after Johnson fatally shot a former co-worker.

dramatic surveillance video released by police Friday night showed the confrontation lasted only a few seconds. Johnson was walking rapidly down the street trailed by two police officers when he stopped, wheeled around and pulled out a gun.

About a dozen people ran for their lives, including two small children who were just feet away from Johnson. He pointed the gun at the officers, who quickly fired at him.

Johnson dropped his briefcase, fell to his knees and then collapsed on the ground.
The bystanders likely were hit by police officers' stray gunfire, some of it bullets that rebounded off planters in front of the skyscraper and grazed pedestrians. The two officers fired 16 shots. The surveillance video shows Johnson pointing his weapon at police, but it's likely he did not get a chance to fire, investigators said."

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-08-24/empire-state-building-shooting/57271890/1

These were trained police officers, yet they still wounded nine bystanders.

[krazen1211]

Not sure what the intent of this thread is. Does krazen own stock in a security guard staffing company?  Not like anybody is anti security guard.

Really? Then why did the Cinemark theater in Aurora have no security guards and a gun ban, while neighboring theaters allowed its patrons to carry guns and had a greater security force?

At the risk of getting drawn in, I'll venture to say that the Cinemark in Aurora had no security guards because it's a cheap theater and guards cost money, and had a gun ban because gun bans are good (God forgive me for this pun) security theater.

Gun bans are good security theater?

Do you consider it a coincidence that Holmes chose the theater with the gun ban rather than one closer to his home or a larger theater with more people in which he could inflict more damage?

[krazen1211]

Then there's this (from August):


These were trained police officers, yet they still wounded nine bystanders.

I would think that non fatal collateral damage while bringing the perp down is preferred to the perp going around executing whomever he likes.

[SPC]

Not sure what the intent of this thread is. Does krazen own stock in a security guard staffing company?  Not like anybody is anti security guard.

Really? Then why did the Cinemark theater in Aurora have no security guards and a gun ban, while neighboring theaters allowed its patrons to carry guns and had a greater security force?

At the risk of getting drawn in, I'll venture to say that the Cinemark in Aurora had no security guards because it's a cheap theater and guards cost money, and had a gun ban because gun bans are good (God forgive me for this pun) security theater.

Gun bans are good security theater?

Do you consider it a coincidence that Holmes chose the theater with the gun ban rather than one closer to his home or a larger theater with more people in which he could inflict more damage?

You might want to refer to the definition of security theater:

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[Brittain33]

Note the conflation of "banning guns" and "not having a security guard on the payroll."

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

At the risk of getting drawn in, I'll venture to say that the Cinemark in Aurora had no security guards because it's a cheap theater and guards cost money, and had a gun ban because gun bans are good (God forgive me for this pun) security theater.

God in his mercy may forgive, but I will not.

[krazen1211]

At the risk of getting drawn in, I'll venture to say that the Cinemark in Aurora had no security guards because it's a cheap theater and guards cost money, and had a gun ban because gun bans are good (God forgive me for this pun) security theater.

Gun bans are good security theater?

Do you consider it a coincidence that Holmes chose the theater with the gun ban rather than one closer to his home or a larger theater with more people in which he could inflict more damage?

You might want to refer to the definition of security theater:

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Ah. I would think that signs telling James Holmes that Cinemark is a bunch of sitting ducks would be bad security theater, given that James Holmes chose not to comply with those signs.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

At the risk of getting drawn in, I'll venture to say that the Cinemark in Aurora had no security guards because it's a cheap theater and guards cost money, and had a gun ban because gun bans are good (God forgive me for this pun) security theater.

Gun bans are good security theater?

Do you consider it a coincidence that Holmes chose the theater with the gun ban rather than one closer to his home or a larger theater with more people in which he could inflict more damage?

You might want to refer to the definition of security theater:

You must be logged in to read this quote.

Ah. I would think that signs telling James Holmes that Cinemark is a bunch of sitting ducks would be bad security theater, given that James Holmes chose not to comply with those signs.

And I would think that you wouldn't be a gigantic asshole about this sort of thing a few days after the second deadliest school shooting in American history, but I'd be wrong wouldn't I?

[SPC]

At the risk of getting drawn in, I'll venture to say that the Cinemark in Aurora had no security guards because it's a cheap theater and guards cost money, and had a gun ban because gun bans are good (God forgive me for this pun) security theater.

Gun bans are good security theater?

Do you consider it a coincidence that Holmes chose the theater with the gun ban rather than one closer to his home or a larger theater with more people in which he could inflict more damage?

You might want to refer to the definition of security theater:

You must be logged in to read this quote.

Ah. I would think that signs telling James Holmes that Cinemark is a bunch of sitting ducks would be bad security theater, given that James Holmes chose not to comply with those signs.

Security theater isn't supposed to provide actual security; it just makes boobus Americanus think they are getting security.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

Not sure what the intent of this thread is. Does krazen own stock in a security guard staffing company?  Not like anybody is anti security guard.

Really? Then why did the Cinemark theater in Aurora have no security guards and a gun ban, while neighboring theaters allowed its patrons to carry guns and had a greater security force?

At the risk of getting drawn in, I'll venture to say that the Cinemark in Aurora had no security guards because it's a cheap theater and guards cost money, and had a gun ban because gun bans are good (God forgive me for this pun) security theater.

Gun bans are good security theater?

Do you consider it a coincidence that Holmes chose the theater with the gun ban rather than one closer to his home or a larger theater with more people in which he could inflict more damage?

Or maybe -- and this is what sane, responsible people think -- maybe he simply chose the theater he had the most experience visiting. Insane gunmen don't typically commit their crimes in unfamiliar locales. Maybe, when you snap to the point that you're willing to take out your insanity on a school full of innocent young children, you don't have a sane, logical plan.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

It was a very fortunate circumstance that this didn't turn into another mass shooting.  Maybe schools and such need more security guards?

Or maybe the media needs to stop fetishizing these type of killings.

[patrick1]

Not sure what the intent of this thread is. Does krazen own stock in a security guard staffing company?  Not like anybody is anti security guard.

Really? Then why did the Cinemark theater in Aurora have no security guards and a gun ban, while neighboring theaters allowed its patrons to carry guns and had a greater security force?

At the risk of getting drawn in, I'll venture to say that the Cinemark in Aurora had no security guards because it's a cheap theater and guards cost money, and had a gun ban because gun bans are good (God forgive me for this pun) security theater.

Gun bans are good security theater?

Do you consider it a coincidence that Holmes chose the theater with the gun ban rather than one closer to his home or a larger theater with more people in which he could inflict more damage?

Or maybe -- and this is what sane, responsible people think -- maybe he simply chose the theater he had the most experience visiting. Insane gunmen don't typically commit their crimes in unfamiliar locales. Maybe, when you snap to the point that you're willing to take out your insanity on a school full of innocent young children, you don't have a sane, logical plan.

Actually most of these mass shootings actually have a high level of planning involved.  This isn't usually somebody simply snapping.  This is usually something they think about for a while and daydream scenarios. Some leave behind the evidence of their plans- Breivik, Cho, Harris/Klebold, Holmes and looks like Lanza had plans but destroyed his electronic trail.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

Not sure what the intent of this thread is. Does krazen own stock in a security guard staffing company?  Not like anybody is anti security guard.

Really? Then why did the Cinemark theater in Aurora have no security guards and a gun ban, while neighboring theaters allowed its patrons to carry guns and had a greater security force?

At the risk of getting drawn in, I'll venture to say that the Cinemark in Aurora had no security guards because it's a cheap theater and guards cost money, and had a gun ban because gun bans are good (God forgive me for this pun) security theater.

Gun bans are good security theater?

Do you consider it a coincidence that Holmes chose the theater with the gun ban rather than one closer to his home or a larger theater with more people in which he could inflict more damage?

Or maybe -- and this is what sane, responsible people think -- maybe he simply chose the theater he had the most experience visiting. Insane gunmen don't typically commit their crimes in unfamiliar locales. Maybe, when you snap to the point that you're willing to take out your insanity on a school full of innocent young children, you don't have a sane, logical plan.

Actually most of these mass shootings actually have a high level of planning involved.  This isn't usually somebody simply snapping.  This is usually something they think about for a while and daydream scenarios. Some leave behind the evidence of their plans- Breivik, Cho, Harris/Klebold, Holmes and looks like Lanza had plans but destroyed his electronic trail.

I would argue that the "high level of planning" involved would include or require committing your crime in an area you're already extremely familiar with.