Irish Demographic Maps

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Some of the polarities here meet in the middle...



Comments, anyone?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Gloriously appropriately middleish.

[minionofmidas]

Outliers only to the downward, I see. Makes sense, I suppose.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

For a week I couldn't log on... These will probably be the last maps for a while anyway...

This uses ESRI/CSO data and uses the official unemployment rate (or rather 'live register' rate which is what the media reports as unemployment). They speak for themselves... Unfortunately, this data was only available at level of those ridiculous and arbitrary regions (Louth with Donegal, seriously?) but anyway...

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Just to keep the thread alive somewhat...

I remember a while back on this forum we had a discussion on which regions here would vote for which UK parties in the magical event (yes, Niall Ferguson, a unicorn is more likely to fly by your house while copulating with Shergar than this has of ever, ever happening) of Ireland being part of the UK and having the same parties (ha!). Obviously political cultures, etc are different (to say the least) but anyone willing to speculate... I would say the same for the US except that would be too obvious...

[Oakvale]

Just to keep the thread alive somewhat...

I remember a while back on this forum we had a discussion on which regions here would vote for which UK parties in the magical event (yes, Niall Ferguson, a unicorn is more likely to fly by your house while copulating with Shergar than this has of ever, ever happening) of Ireland being part of the UK and having the same parties (ha!). Obviously political cultures, etc are different (to say the least) but anyone willing to speculate... I would say the same for the US except that would be too obvious...

Er... everywhere but bits of South Dublin voting "not Tory"?

Interesting to know that the more I find out about Niall Ferguson the more of a bizzaro alternate-universe BRTD he becomes. Did you know he's married to Ayaan Hirsi Ali? There are no words.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Just to keep the thread alive somewhat...

I remember a while back on this forum we had a discussion on which regions here would vote for which UK parties in the magical event (yes, Niall Ferguson, a unicorn is more likely to fly by your house while copulating with Shergar than this has of ever, ever happening) of Ireland being part of the UK and having the same parties (ha!). Obviously political cultures, etc are different (to say the least) but anyone willing to speculate... I would say the same for the US except that would be too obvious...

Er... everywhere but bits of South Dublin voting "not Tory"?

Interesting to know that the more I find out about Niall Ferguson the more of a bizzaro alternate-universe BRTD he becomes. Did you know he's married to Ayaan Hirsi Ali? There are no words.

... and possibly West Cork, yes.

Actually, I did not know that, I am... amazed.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

For a week I couldn't log on... These will probably be the last maps for a while anyway...

Which seems like a good excuse to write (again) that these maps are things of goodness or something.

[Franknburger]

For a week I couldn't log on... These will probably be the last maps for a while anyway...

This uses ESRI/CSO data and uses the official unemployment rate (or rather 'live register' rate which is what the media reports as unemployment). They speak for themselves... Unfortunately, this data was only available at level of those ridiculous and arbitrary regions (Louth with Donegal, seriously?) but anyway...

These maps are 'impressive'. I knew the situation wasn't good in Ireland, but I had no idea it has become so bad. What has happened ? I mean, this threefolding of unemployment cannot only be due to construction workers getting out of business. Any chance for maps tracing the change over time and on a economic sector level ?

[LastVoter]

Just to keep the thread alive somewhat...

I remember a while back on this forum we had a discussion on which regions here would vote for which UK parties in the magical event (yes, Niall Ferguson, a unicorn is more likely to fly by your house while copulating with Shergar than this has of ever, ever happening) of Ireland being part of the UK and having the same parties (ha!). Obviously political cultures, etc are different (to say the least) but anyone willing to speculate... I would say the same for the US except that would be too obvious...

Er... everywhere but bits of South Dublin voting "not Tory"?

Interesting to know that the more I find out about Niall Ferguson the more of a bizzaro alternate-universe BRTD he becomes. Did you know he's married to Ayaan Hirsi Ali? There are no words.

Sounds like a good reason to annex Ireland into UK(Unless the rural areas decide to vote BNP or something else retarded).

[Franknburger]

Sounds like a good reason to annex Ireland into UK(Unless the rural areas decide to vote BNP or something else retarded).
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Yeah, but it should be done quickly, in order to give the Irish a chance to coordinate with the Scotch on the next move ..

[LastVoter]

Sounds like a good reason to annex Ireland into UK(Unless the rural areas decide to vote BNP or something else retarded).

Yeah, but it should be done quickly, in order to give the Irish a chance to coordinate with the Scotch on the next move ..
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Why would the Scottish try to cooperate with the Irish though?

[minionofmidas]

Just to keep the thread alive somewhat...

I remember a while back on this forum we had a discussion on which regions here would vote for which UK parties in the magical event (yes, Niall Ferguson, a unicorn is more likely to fly by your house while copulating with Shergar than this has of ever, ever happening) of Ireland being part of the UK and having the same parties (ha!). Obviously political cultures, etc are different (to say the least) but anyone willing to speculate... I would say the same for the US except that would be too obvious...

Er... everywhere but bits of South Dublin voting "not Tory"?

Interesting to know that the more I find out about Niall Ferguson the more of a bizzaro alternate-universe BRTD he becomes. Did you know he's married to Ayaan Hirsi Ali? There are no words.

... and possibly West Cork, yes.

Actually, I did not know that, I am... amazed.

Niall Ferguson is married to Ayaan Hirsi Ali and possibly West Cork? Now I'm intrigued.

[ObserverIE]

Just to keep the thread alive somewhat...

I remember a while back on this forum we had a discussion on which regions here would vote for which UK parties in the magical event (yes, Niall Ferguson, a unicorn is more likely to fly by your house while copulating with Shergar than this has of ever, ever happening) of Ireland being part of the UK and having the same parties (ha!). Obviously political cultures, etc are different (to say the least) but anyone willing to speculate... I would say the same for the US except that would be too obvious...

Er... everywhere but bits of South Dublin voting "not Tory"?

Interesting to know that the more I find out about Niall Ferguson the more of a bizzaro alternate-universe BRTD he becomes. Did you know he's married to Ayaan Hirsi Ali? There are no words.

... and possibly West Cork, yes.

Actually, I did not know that, I am... amazed.

Niall Ferguson is married to Ayaan Hirsi Ali and possibly West Cork? Now I'm intrigued.

We did point out that West Cork tended to be a bit hippyish.

[ObserverIE]

For a week I couldn't log on... These will probably be the last maps for a while anyway...

This uses ESRI/CSO data and uses the official unemployment rate (or rather 'live register' rate which is what the media reports as unemployment). They speak for themselves... Unfortunately, this data was only available at level of those ridiculous and arbitrary regions (Louth with Donegal, seriously?) but anyway...

Again with the compare and contrast... from earlier in the thread:

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Found some useful information recently so... Bumpity Bump.

Here's births outside of marriage - the timespan is probably too short to get a really good picture but trends are obvious:

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Bumping this thread for a slightly hilariously map. This was inspired by the house data Al had for Birmingham. Unfortunately I found nothing directly about the type of housing other than residence or apartment. So I did a 'living in Apartments' map



Again, it speaks for itself.

[MaxQue]

Any reasons for the dark colors outside of Dublin area? Universities?

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Any reasons for the dark colors outside of Dublin area? Universities?

Yes. But also because that's where the cities are.

[MaxQue]

Any reasons for the dark colors outside of Dublin area? Universities?

Yes. But also because that's where the cities are.

That's what I thought, but I thought than Cork was too pale.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Any reasons for the dark colors outside of Dublin area? Universities?

Yes. But also because that's where the cities are.

That's what I thought, but I thought than Cork was too pale.

Yeah, that's somewhat of an anomaly.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Does Limerick feel like a small city or a large town?

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Does Limerick feel like a small city or a large town?

Well, right now, it feels more like a medium sized swimming pool .

I'm not sure how to answer that actually. This is Ireland, even Dublin feels like an oversized village at times. And like elsewhere there is a lot of sprawl with the city centre feels a bit undersized in comparison to its population. The whole 'central area' can be walked in about an hour and a bit. On the other hand however, this is a city which has very much its own self-contained culture which is quite distinct from the rest of the country. It's much more self-consciously proletarian than any other Irish city as well as the most overtly and quite publicly Catholic (ObserverIE may correct me here, but it's the only city in Ireland I know where it's normal for shops to note on their windows that they sell mass cards). Rugby is very important. On the flip side, poverty, social deprivation, unemployment and violence (it's not known as 'stab city' for nothing) are much higher than almost anywhere else except the worst parts of Dublin.

Any other requests for Maps/topics?

[Јas]

Should be pretty self-explanatory.
It's simply the aggregated number of recorded murders by Garda division for the past 5 years (from q3 2008 through q3 2013 - the latest available quarter).

By my maths, it seems the over that 5 year period Ireland has recorded an average of exactly 1 murder per week.

Source: http://www.cso.ie/px/pxeirestat/Statire/SelectVarVal/Define.asp?maintable=CJQ03&PLanguage=0

[ObserverIE]

Does Limerick feel like a small city or a large town?

Well, right now, it feels more like a medium sized swimming pool .

I'm not sure how to answer that actually. This is Ireland, even Dublin feels like an oversized village at times. And like elsewhere there is a lot of sprawl with the city centre feels a bit undersized in comparison to its population. The whole 'central area' can be walked in about an hour and a bit. On the other hand however, this is a city which has very much its own self-contained culture which is quite distinct from the rest of the country. It's much more self-consciously proletarian than any other Irish city as well as the most overtly and quite publicly Catholic (ObserverIE may correct me here, but it's the only city in Ireland I know where it's normal for shops to note on their windows that they sell mass cards).

(Summoned from the deep...)

<snark>They sell more Mass cards in Limerick because they have more funerals per head of population than anywhere else.</snark>

The Mass card-buying demographic (a Catholic form of sympathy cards for the benefit of any non-Irish in the audience) would tend to be older and less prosperous than average, I suspect.

I'm afraid most of our "cities" are a bit too far south for me to visit on any sort of regular basis (I've been in Limerick about three times and was just relieved to get out alive). The notices Gully refers to would be unremarkable in rural towns; I wouldn't expect them in Dublin city centre, but I'd not be surprised to come across them in smaller shops in older, working or lower-middle class "traditional" areas of other cities (Crumlin or Finglas in Dublin, for example, or more down-at-heel areas of Cork or Waterford).

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It's been less violent over the last few years because of some of the main players being (temporarily or permanently) out of circulation. As Jas's map below indicates, west Dublin (the banlieues of Blanchardstown, Clondalkin and Tallaght) is now the main danger area.