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Filuwaúrdjan
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« on: January 03, 2013, 12:12:40 PM »

Until very recently Northern Ireland was the only part of the planet that you could not be a member of the Labour Party.
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« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2013, 01:26:01 PM »

And, of course, such people never define themselves as 'Unionist'.
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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2013, 07:27:12 PM »

That's not possible, even as a hypothetical. You would just have new 'regional' parties springing up, pretty much immediately. Though (and this is a different matter entirely) somewhere like Northern Ireland (postindustrial wreck of a regional economy, strong trade unions, etc) would be pretty Labour if it were in Great Britain and were 'normal' in all (or even most) respects.
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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2013, 03:30:53 PM »

Actually no.
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« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2013, 06:24:11 PM »

Anyways, there's to be a single Unionist candidate (Nigel Lutton1) as the DUP and UUP have done a rather tawdry2 sectarian deal ala the FST failure of 2010 (and also routine practice before Good Friday 1998). As a result, the UUP have lost another MLA; John McCallister of South Down who lost his post as Deputy Leader last year for saying this sort of sectarian dickwaving was a bit sh!te.

1. Son of an IRA victim.
2. And completely pointless: McGuinness polled an absolute majority in 2010 and Sinn Fein (with 49%) led a hypothetically combined DUP/UUP by over 20pts in the 2011 elections.
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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2013, 06:42:16 PM »

To be less coy: the next MP for Mid Ulster will be Francie Molloy. Back in 2007 Francie Molloy was named in the Commons by David Simpson as a suspect in the murder of one Eric Lutton in 1979.
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« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2013, 06:33:33 AM »

Basil McCrea (Lagan Valley) has gone as well.
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« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2013, 12:44:53 PM »

That's what McCrea intends to do. A sort of second coming of the UPNI, perhaps. You have to wonder what the point would be given that most of the target market now vote Alliance. But then even UPNI II would have more of a point than the UUP.
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« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2013, 12:54:11 PM »

His reasoning otoh... ‘riven with personal and policy difficulties’,  ‘politically exhausted’, ‘I don’t think they have any new ideas or big ideas‘ is spot on. That party has become entirely useless&pointless.

Basically, yep.
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