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« on: January 02, 2013, 12:24:11 PM »

lol what on earth. Think they need a name change.
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« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2013, 03:37:17 PM »

The aforementioned new Centre Party policy changes are opposed by several local party heads and chances are it will be revised to some extent or maybe even trashed altogether. Every party except the Left Party is having a congress next year; the Centre Congress might be the most interesting one.

It will be bloody, I can tell you that.

Welcome to the forum btw. Might I ask where you stand politically? Smiley

Generally center-left, at times radical and at times semi-fascist depending on my mood. And thanks.

When you say semi-fascist do you mean authoritarian, or?
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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2013, 11:15:52 PM »

Yougov have a Euro tracker, originating from their French arm, asking it to several countries - with Sweden amongst them:

"If there was a referendum on [COUNTRY’S] membership of the European Union, how would you vote?"

Oct 2012
Swedish sample: 1,012   
44% I would vote to remain a member of the European Union
41% I would vote to leave the European Union
 3% I would not vote
12% Don't know

Nov 2012
Swedish sample: 1,006   
44% I would vote to remain a member of the European Union
40% I would vote to leave the European Union
 3% I would not vote
13% Don't know

Still awaiting December's.
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2013, 09:29:57 PM »

Why prop up a center-left administration when they could make Rasmussen PM (again)?

Another would be to neutralise the only threat to the right-wing economics (and going off what Swedish Cheese said, they've been successful).
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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2013, 10:23:50 PM »

Well the pendulum's gonna turn eventually; if you force the Left to adopt right-wing economics then there's no opposition to them.
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« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2013, 05:56:13 AM »

Christ those figures for Annie Lööf are hilarious, and richly deserved.
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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2013, 08:42:37 PM »

Not sure SD should be before KD.
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« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2013, 09:44:21 AM »

Big Bipartisan Compromise on Free Schools

Six of the major parties today announced an agreement on the Swedish free school system. Free schools are privatly owned schools that are open to everyone and financed through vouchers.

The compromise means that it'll still be possible to run these schools for a profit, while introducing stricer regulation and quality control, more and increased sanctions and punishments when the system is abused.

Urgh. Which six parties?
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« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2013, 11:16:57 AM »

The governing parties, the Social Democrats and the Greens... whose on-going congress just decided to include the phrase "we want to remove the commercially oriented actors from the market". Their membership isn't moving towards the centre as quickly as their leadership, which tends to show.

Does 'centre' now encompass profiteering in education? Seems more accurate to describe the parties movement to the right, although signing bipartisan compromises like this does help enormously in it becoming the centre.
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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2013, 08:14:50 PM »

The governing parties, the Social Democrats and the Greens... whose on-going congress just decided to include the phrase "we want to remove the commercially oriented actors from the market". Their membership isn't moving towards the centre as quickly as their leadership, which tends to show.

Does 'centre' now encompass profiteering in education?

The 'third way' is so ten years ago.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2013/may/31/free-schools-education

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« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2013, 10:54:48 AM »

Were they ever in sync with one another?
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« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2013, 12:35:48 PM »

Plus, no, while capitalism still make the rich richer and we are powerless about that, left-wingers are pretty much in constant depression. Wink

And the left keep governing like liberals, and left voters keep voting for said liberals.
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« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2013, 06:21:52 PM »

4) It would drive some of the left-wingers on here mad, with the S and Mp "selling out to neoliberalism" And that is always fun.

Not as fun as it would be for us watching them get destroyed at the elections (because funnily enough it is not just forum leftists opposed to neoliberalism).
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« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2013, 01:38:17 PM »

4) It would drive some of the left-wingers on here mad, with the S and Mp "selling out to neoliberalism" And that is always fun.

Not as fun as it would be for us watching them get destroyed at the elections (because funnily enough it is not just forum leftists opposed to neoliberalism).

According to German experience, the only ones getting destroyed are the liberals. The Greens remain stable and return to opposition, while the next government is a grand coalition. Whoever leads that grand coalition will gain, ultimately enough to form a coalition with its preferred partner (i.e. either red-green of black-yellow).

Have there been that many examples to base this off? There's never been one on the federal level to my knowledge - which leaves us at state level - where the coalition and its consequences receive less scrutiny. As it is, I'd expect ditching their Red-Greens alliances, shunning socialists but welcoming - and accommodating - neoliberals into government, only to then join a grand coalition (unlikely?) to be none other than a recipe for disaster for SAP. I predict V would get their best result since 1998, at the expense of SAP and MP, at the next election where the victorious Moderates would have no need or inclination for a grand coalition.

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« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2013, 03:02:06 PM »

Not as fun as it would be for us watching them get destroyed at the elections (because funnily enough it is not just forum leftists opposed to neoliberalism).

We get a centrist government, left-wingers gets fuzzy, and there's great potential of S loosing big in the election due to disgrunted left-wingers... it's only getting better and better.
Great news indeed for you right-wingers, not so much the left - which is why it's a terrible idea.

Actually as Tayya says, it's really the media that is hyping the idea of a S+Mp+Fp coalition. And I think even the neoliberal editorial authors in the press prefer to have Fp on the inside in a centrist government than to have a pure left government that's dependant on the commies.

Well of course they would, but that doesn't mean they won't be roundly attacked and criticised throughout for not living up to the Right's (unrealistic) expectations re: moderation/influence.
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