It's Hagel

[King]

It was one of the right's favorite talking points.

It's just a typical right wing drop.  Make something up, have the constituents hear it, and then never issue a correction.

Did you know Jeep is moving to China?

I hear Obama has budget $100 bil a year in Foreign Aid to his family in Kenya.

Did you know Obama is planning a $200 million dollar trip to India, with a couple thousand people, booking to the Taj Mahal, and its going to be with 34 warships?

And then he's going to decommission those warships in order to make America less safe so that Taliban can establish Sharia in the public schools.

[King]

Also, isn't it ridiculous how that whiny fag lover coon Obama always resorts to name calling instead of logical arguments in policy debate?

[Maxwell]

Also, isn't it ridiculous how that whiny fag lover coon Obama always resorts to name calling instead of logical arguments in policy debate?

I literally laughed out loud at that. Kudos.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Bob Dole has spoken out in favor of Hagel.
http://www.kansascity.com/2013/02/21/4079263/bob-dole-supports-hagel-nomination.html

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

The New York Times formally came out in support of Hagel's confirmation yesterday.

Also, a vote is scheduled for mid-afternoon to end the filibuster.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

The New York Times formally came out in support of Hagel's confirmation yesterday.

Also, a vote is scheduled for mid-afternoon to end the filibuster.

If he gets confirmed will you please get his mugshot out of your signature?

[Obamanation]

Bob Dole has spoken out in favor of Hagel.
http://www.kansascity.com/2013/02/21/4079263/bob-dole-supports-hagel-nomination.html

But he's a librul...

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

The New York Times formally came out in support of Hagel's confirmation yesterday.

Also, a vote is scheduled for mid-afternoon to end the filibuster.

If he gets confirmed will you please get his mugshot out of your signature?

Or just turn off signatures...

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

What stellar qualifications does Hagel have over others?  None.  It's going to be a disaster when he gets confirmed.  Get used to hearing his name a lot on TV.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

What stellar qualifications does Hagel have over others?  None.  It's going to be a disaster when he gets confirmed.  Get used to hearing his name a lot on TV.

And what do you propose? Withdraw his name?

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

What stellar qualifications does Hagel have over others?  None.  It's going to be a disaster when he gets confirmed.  Get used to hearing his name a lot on TV.

I respectfully disagree.  Yeah, he'll get slammed by Republicans, but in 15-20 years, I think he'll be in the history books as one of the greatest Defense Secretaries of modern times.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

What stellar qualifications does Hagel have over others?  None.  It's going to be a disaster when he gets confirmed.  Get used to hearing his name a lot on TV.

And what do you propose? Withdraw his name?

At this stage of the game, no way.  What I want to know is why Obama nominated him, and not from some bullsh**t Rose Garden spiel or Jay Carney bullsh**t talking points.......this guy was not the best person available.  He's going to go down as a disaster, not as Inks thinks, a hero.

[Gamecock]

What stellar qualifications does Hagel have over others?  None.  It's going to be a disaster when he gets confirmed.  Get used to hearing his name a lot on TV.

And what do you propose? Withdraw his name?

At this stage of the game, no way.  What I want to know is why Obama nominated him, and not from some bullsh**t Rose Garden spiel or Jay Carney bullsh**t talking points.......this guy was not the best person available.  He's going to go down as a disaster, not as Inks thinks, a hero.

Agreed. Even without his seeming incompetence, you can't be a good defense secretary if half of congress doesn't trust you. I don't think he will end well...

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

What stellar qualifications does Hagel have over others?  None.  It's going to be a disaster when he gets confirmed.  Get used to hearing his name a lot on TV.

And what do you propose? Withdraw his name?

At this stage of the game, no way.  What I want to know is why Obama nominated him, and not from some bullsh**t Rose Garden spiel or Jay Carney bullsh**t talking points.......this guy was not the best person available.  He's going to go down as a disaster, not as Inks thinks, a hero.

Agreed. Even without his seeming incompetence, you can't be a good defense secretary if half of congress doesn't trust you. I don't think he will end well...

But it's not that half of Congress doesn't trust him.  It's that half of Congress is playing partisan games.  His stances are the same as they were in 2006, and back when he left Congress, major Senate Republicans were talking about how great of a Senator he was.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

What stellar qualifications does Hagel have over others?  None.  It's going to be a disaster when he gets confirmed.  Get used to hearing his name a lot on TV.

And what do you propose? Withdraw his name?

At this stage of the game, no way.  What I want to know is why Obama nominated him, and not from some bullsh**t Rose Garden spiel or Jay Carney bullsh**t talking points.......this guy was not the best person available.  He's going to go down as a disaster, not as Inks thinks, a hero.

Agreed. Even without his seeming incompetence, you can't be a good defense secretary if half of congress doesn't trust you. I don't think he will end well...

But it's not that half of Congress doesn't trust him.  It's that half of Congress is playing partisan games.  His stances are the same as they were in 2006, and back when he left Congress, major Senate Republicans were talking about how great of a Senator he was.

He's not running for Senate.  I can't wait until his first real appearance before the committee as SecDef.  His senate buddies are still not going to trust him, which is Gamecock's very good point.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

What stellar qualifications does Hagel have over others?  None.  It's going to be a disaster when he gets confirmed.  Get used to hearing his name a lot on TV.

And what do you propose? Withdraw his name?

At this stage of the game, no way.  What I want to know is why Obama nominated him, and not from some bullsh**t Rose Garden spiel or Jay Carney bullsh**t talking points.......this guy was not the best person available.  He's going to go down as a disaster, not as Inks thinks, a hero.

Agreed. Even without his seeming incompetence, you can't be a good defense secretary if half of congress doesn't trust you. I don't think he will end well...

But it's not that half of Congress doesn't trust him.  It's that half of Congress is playing partisan games.  His stances are the same as they were in 2006, and back when he left Congress, major Senate Republicans were talking about how great of a Senator he was.

He's not running for Senate.  I can't wait until his first real appearance before the committee as SecDef.  His senate buddies are still not going to trust him, which is Gamecock's very good point.

He wasn't running for Senate then.  And since when does the opposition's opinion of a cabinet member affect how good of a job they objectively do?

[Torie]

Inks, I hope I am not opening a Pandora's box here, but why are you so fond of Hagel?  It is one thing to support him; quite another to make him some kind of icon. Just curious.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

He wasn't running for Senate then.  And since when does the opposition's opinion of a cabinet member affect how good of a job they objectively do?

Inks, he won't be on an island.  He needs Congressional support to objectively do his job.  He's not a dictator, he needs to go up on the Hill to get what he wants.  If he doesn't have credibility when making his requests to Congress, or looks like a bumbling fool, he's not going to succeed.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Inks, I hope I am not opening a Pandora's box here, but why are you so fond of Hagel?  It is one thing to support him; quite another to make him some kind of icon. Just curious.

I wouldn't call him an icon.  Apart from foreign policy, there are certainly things I disagree with him on.  But I think his foreign policy stances have been unique and non-partisan, which is ultimately what the Defense Secretary should be about.  DoD shouldn't be about who's right and who's wrong or who's trying to win an election - it should be about defense.  Apart from the Secret Service, it should be our most non-political government department/agency/office.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

The filibuster has ended so he's in. 

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

The filibuster has ended so he's in. 

71-27, with 2 not voting, for those who care.

[Antonio the Sixth]

The filibuster has ended so he's in. 

71-27, with 2 not voting, for those who care.

Loking at the cloture vote map, it's funny to see that so many Deep South Republicans end up being saner that the Western/Midwestern types.

[Lief 🗽]

The filibuster has ended so he's in. 

71-27, with 2 not voting, for those who care.

Loking at the cloture vote map, it's funny to see that so many Deep South Republicans end up being saner that the Western/Midwestern types.

Yeah, for some reason Deep South Republican senators are generally less insane on these sorts of common-sense things than those from the Midwest, who you would expect to be more moderate. That's probably just them being older/longer-serving though. Once they retire I assume they'll be replaced by insane teabaggers.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

I'm glad to see Tom Coburn exercising his reputation for being sensible by the standards of people with his positions.

What is even up with Rand Paul?

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

I'm glad to see Tom Coburn exercising his reputation for being sensible by the standards of people with his positions.

What is even up with Rand Paul?

he seems to want to stall everything until he gets answers on drones.