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« on: January 10, 2013, 01:54:02 pm »

Hillary Clinton.................................................. 44%
Chris Christie .................................................. 42%

Hillary Clinton.................................................. 51%
Jeb Bush......................................................... 37%

Hillary Clinton.................................................. 51%
Marco Rubio ................................................... 37%

Hillary Clinton.................................................. 53%
Paul Ryan ....................................................... 39%

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_National_011013.pdf
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« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2013, 02:05:11 pm »

National favorable ratings of all candidates:

favorable/unfavorable

51-23 Chris Christie (+28)
54-39 Hillary Clinton (+15)
30-22 Elizabeth Warren (+8)
33-27 Marco Rubio (+6)
48-43 Joe Biden (+5)

17-17 Susana Martinez
12-12 Mark Warner

26-31 Bobby Jindal (-5)
  8-13 Martin O’Malley (-5)
11-16 Deval Patrick (-5)
38-45 Paul Ryan (-7)
26-33 Andrew Cuomo (-7)
33-40 Jeb Bush (-7)
  5-13 Brian Schweitzer (-8)
11-20 Kirsten Gillibrand (-9)
34-46 Mike Huckabee (-12)
32-44 Rand Paul (-12)
19-52 Rick Perry (-33)
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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2013, 02:07:53 pm »

That really is an impressive showing for Christie. I wouldn't be suprised if he's already specifically preparing for a showdown against Hilldog.
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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2013, 02:09:44 pm »

Christie also leads Hillary by 47-29 among Indies ...
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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2013, 02:11:41 pm »

In April 2009, when PPP first polled Obama vs. Mitt, Obama led by 11. Just sayin'.
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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2013, 02:17:50 pm »

Both Clinton and Christie will see their favorables drop as they enter the fray of campaigning. Clinton has benefited from rising above the political fighting as SoS and Christie is still enjoying the Sandy bump.
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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2013, 06:17:51 pm »

Hillary Clinton.................................................. 44%
Chris Christie .................................................. 42%

Hillary Clinton.................................................. 51%
Jeb Bush......................................................... 37%

Hillary Clinton.................................................. 51%
Marco Rubio ................................................... 37%

Hillary Clinton.................................................. 53%
Paul Ryan ....................................................... 39%

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_National_011013.pdf

Same thing I said in the other thread applies here.  Rubio's name recognition is a bit lower than the other candidates being polled here, so his showing here really isn't as bad as it is for Bush and Ryan.
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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2013, 08:36:54 pm »

Here are the things that stand out to me the most about the poll:

Christie's strong numbers are because of crossover appeal; Clinton's strong numbers are because Democrats love her.

Christie favorability / unfavorability among…
Dems 52 / 23% for +29%
GOP 48 / 27% for +21%
Independents 52 / 18% for +34%

Clinton favorability / unfavorability among…
Dems 81 / 16% for +65%
GOP 17 / 73% for -56%
Independents 48 / 41% for +7%

Martinez and Rubio are the only Republicans with better favorables among Hispanics than whites.

Martinez favorability / unfavorability among…
whites 14 / 16% for -2%
Hispanics 28 / 23% for +5%
blacks 29 / 20% for +9%
other 19 / 23% for -4%

Rubio favorability / unfavorability among…
whites 32 / 27% for +5%
Hispanics 51 / 27% for +24%
blacks 21 / 39% for -18%
other 31 / 21% for +10%

Clinton also only leads Rubio by 3% among Hispanics, but 9% among whites.

Younger voters don't seem to like anyone

In recent elections, Dems have done well among the young, while Republicans have done well among the old.  However, for 2016, voters under 30 don't seem to like anyone very much.  The Republicans of course have higher favorability among older voters, but in this poll, most of the Democratic candidates also do as well or better among older voters as they do among younger voters.  Biden is actually the most popular among the young, at +13% favorable among those under 30.  Clinton, however, is at 45/48% for -3% among voters under 30, but 58 / 33% for +25% among voters over 65.

In the Christie vs. Clinton matchup, the numbers by age group are as follows:

under 30: Clinton 57% - Christie 29%
30-45: Christie 49% - Clinton 38%
46-65: Clinton 46% - Christie 42%
over 65: Clinton 45% - Christie 37%

So Clinton's best category here is the under 30 crowd, but Christie's is the next youngest group (30-45), since Clinton also does well among olds.
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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2013, 08:38:54 pm »

Essentially a tie with Christie during Hillary's high point. Can't wait to see the polls with him leading her in a few months.  Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2013, 08:40:15 pm »

In April 2009, when PPP first polled Obama vs. Mitt, Obama led by 11. Just sayin'.
I'm pretty sure that was among Registered Voters though. Obama still lead Romney by around 8-9 points among them in October.
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« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2013, 09:04:57 pm »

Essentially a tie with Christie during Hillary's high point. Can't wait to see the polls with him leading her in a few months.  Smiley
This is Christie's high point too. Democrats will love to hate him if he enters into the GOP primaries, where he'll have to flip-flop to the right like Romney or lose as bad as Giuliani.
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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2013, 09:12:57 pm »

Essentially a tie with Christie during Hillary's high point. Can't wait to see the polls with him leading her in a few months.  Smiley
This is Christie's high point too. Democrats will love to hate him if he enters into the GOP primaries, where he'll have to flip-flop to the right like Romney or lose as bad as Giuliani.

It won't really be "flip-flopping".  It'll be a change in emphasis.  Christie's troubles with the GOP base come more from symbolic acts, like praising Obama's handling of Sandy, and his criticism of Boehner over Sandy aid.  The actual substantive reasons for the GOP base to distrust him are less significant than they were with McCain, Giuliani, or Romney, though I agree that the political effect is similar nonetheless.
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« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2013, 09:15:00 pm »

The Latino results seem off. It also seems like Hillarymania is starting to erode a little bit.
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« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2013, 11:12:47 pm »

In April 2009, when PPP first polled Obama vs. Mitt, Obama led by 11. Just sayin'.
That's actually fairly unimpressive, considering how popular Obama was at the time. At the same time, Christie is probably better known nationally than Romney was four years ago.
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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2013, 11:52:24 pm »

Essentially a tie with Christie during Hillary's high point. Can't wait to see the polls with him leading her in a few months.  Smiley

Isn't this more of a high point for Christie, post-Sandy and whatnot?

Very impressive numbers for him all the same.
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« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2013, 12:26:45 am »

Christie won't be the nominee, I think he'll have created too much animosity with the Republican establishment.
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« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2013, 12:55:59 am »
« Edited: January 11, 2013, 01:01:45 am by Frodo »

Christie won't be the nominee, I think he'll have created too much animosity with the Republican establishment.

That, and his turn to the right within the next four years in preparation for his bid for the GOP nod will be regarded with much the same skepticism that greeted Mitt Romney -from everyone.  And I doubt he will fare much better in defining his own identity if he did win the nomination.  Christie will undoubtably face a crowded and more daunting field than his predecessor did, and he will not be in a position to fight back effectively when Democrats begin to attack him.
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« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2013, 04:12:26 pm »

I agree with the last few comments regarding Christie's potential rise to the nomination. He also has a tendency to be an uncensored politician and shoot from the hip, if facing Clinton this could really hurt him in a general election as the media will be searching for "a story". The Clintons are skilled at milking gaffe's. Clinton has been on the scene for years, yes she comes with some baggage as all long term politicians do but that baggage is well known and been on public view.

-I do think a primary split will occur if Christie enters as many of the tea party establishment dont view him as pure.
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« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2013, 04:31:15 pm »

Essentially a tie with Christie during Hillary's high point. Can't wait to see the polls with him leading her in a few months.  Smiley

Isn't this more of a high point for Christie, post-Sandy and whatnot?

Very impressive numbers for him all the same.

Probably. The point is, though, that their sky high approval ratings now won't be that way in 2016.
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« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2013, 04:48:00 pm »

I remember Obama v. McCain polls from 2006 showing McCain winning all states except IL, HI and DC.
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« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2013, 04:49:44 pm »

I remember Obama v. McCain polls from 2006 showing McCain winning all states except IL, HI and DC.

Thank you, Kal. Thank you.
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« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2013, 08:30:40 pm »

I remember Obama v. McCain polls from 2006 showing McCain winning all states except IL, HI and DC.

Obama was a freshly elected Senator at that point.
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« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2013, 08:41:14 pm »

Essentially a tie with Christie during Hillary's high point. Can't wait to see the polls with him leading her in a few months.  Smiley

Isn't this also basically Christie's high point? Anyways, he would be a very credible challenger. Unfortunately, he won't make it past the primary.
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« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2013, 08:59:46 pm »



Clinton also only leads Rubio by 3% among Hispanics, but 9% among whites.




Obama got 39% of whites and won every swing state except N.C.

Prediction,  if it is Rubio and Clinton, Hillary gets at least 44% of whites and  the election is basically a cake walk.

KY, WV and maybe MO would be in play, Rubio is  culturally a bad fit  for those states.


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« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2013, 10:22:38 pm »

KY, WV and maybe MO would be in play, Rubio is  culturally a bad fit  for those states.

Very PC way of putting it.

Obama was culturally a bad fit for similar reasons.
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