Why the UKIP are scum

[afleitch]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ugly-face-of-ukip-sunday-mirror-1531879

''The UK Independence Party has surged to a record high in the opinion polls under its brash leader Nigel Farage.

But a Sunday Mirror investigation today reveals a sickening catalogue of racist and homophobic views held by some of its biggest supporters.

They use the party’s official online “members ­forum” to ­express extremist and offensive opinions on issues ranging from gay marriage to bogus links between ­homosexuals and ­paedophilia.

Their outbursts are exposed as the party gears up against both the Tories and Labour in next year’s European elections, with its flagship policy that Britain should pull out of the EU.

On the forum, senior UKIP member Dr Julia Gasper branded gay rights a “lunatic’s charter” and claimed some homosexuals prefer sex with animals. She added: “As for the links between homosexuality and paedophilia, there is so much evidence that even a full-length book could hardly do justice to the ­subject.”

The former parliamentary candidate and UKIP branch chairman in Oxford now faces the sack over her comments.

Tackled about her remarks yesterday, she said: “I’m not going to talk about them. It’s none of your business.”

Lecturer Dr Gasper is just one of many UKIP members who use the forum to vent their controversial views.

A concerned party insider passed on a selection of the shocking outbursts to the Sunday Mirror.

UKIP member Jan Zolyniak posted: “The evidence is quite clear that the percentage of homosexuals who molest children is very high and cannot be dismissed.”

Approached outside his bungalow in Surrey yesterday, Mr Zolyniak claimed his comments were for “research purposes”. He said: “I put those comments up on the website to get responses.”

[You kip if you want to...]

BNP for posh people, always has been.

[DC Al Fine]

They keyword here is "member's forum". If you give an open forum to members, you are always going to a get a few loonies.

[User157088589849]

UKIP are nothing like the BNP. If politicians from the right and left had given the british people a referendum then UKIP would not be so high in the polls.

This is the consequence of apathy in politics that has created a vacuum of political accountability.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

If politicians from the right and left had given the british people a referendum

There was a referendum on Britain's continued membership in what was then the EEC in 1975.

[LastVoter]

Well it's not like tories are much different.

[Siloch]

The EEC was different from the EU, weird how it was the left who opposed the EEC now its the right opposing the EU.

[You kip if you want to...]

UKIP are nothing like the BNP.

No, but Tory voters go to UKIP for similar reasons Labour voters went to the BNP. So, BNP for posh people.

[CatoMinor]

Online forum =/= the representative sample of the entire party. We do not judge the Democratic or Republican parties by the retarded things some of its members say online. Please note I am not defending the haters on that forum, but I just don't think you can condemn the whole party over them.

[YL]

UKIP are nothing like the BNP.

No, but Tory voters go to UKIP for similar reasons Labour voters went to the BNP. So, BNP for posh people.

There may be an element of truth there, but it's much more complicated than that.  UKIP didn't get 22% in the Rotherham by-election by being "for posh people" (and they also came second in Middlesbrough, which I think is even less posh than Rotherham).

Anyway, yes UKIP seem to attract more than their fair share of people with, um, interesting ideas.  They often do do something about them when someone in the media finds out, but I think that in many cases (including the one I'm most familiar with) they really should have known about the controversial views before that.

[Siloch]

Anyway, yes UKIP seem to attract more than their fair share of people with, um, interesting ideas. 

So does Labour.

"White people love playing divide and rule. We should not play their game" - Diane Abbott, Labour MP.

[You kip if you want to...]

Anyway, yes UKIP seem to attract more than their fair share of people with, um, interesting ideas. 

So does Labour.

"White people love playing divide and rule. We should not play their game" - Diane Abbott, Labour MP.

We can play this game all day, but the difference is, UKIP is known for its loons.

[Insula Dei]

The EEC was different from the EU

Not fundamentally so.

[Siloch]

We can play this game all day, but the difference is, UKIP is known for its loons.

No it's not. I find the party who took us to war in Iraq, flooded an overpopulated country with millions of immigrants, tanked the economy and increased the debt more loony. Then to top it off their leader was made "Middle east peace envoy" now that is LOONY.

[Siloch]

Not fundamentally so.

I disagree, Britiain didn't vote for the EU in its current form.

The change since its foundation was highlighted by Professor David Farrell of the University of Manchester;
 
For much of its life, the European Parliament could have been justly labeled a 'multi-lingual talking shop'. But this is no longer the case: the EP is now one of the most powerful legislatures in the world both in terms of its legislative and executive oversight powers.

[All Along The Watchtower]

Ah yes, Britain's "libertarian (lol), non-racist" (lol) party.

[User157088589849]

We can play this game all day, but the difference is, UKIP is known for its loons.

No it's not. I find the party who took us to war in Iraq, flooded an overpopulated country with millions of immigrants, tanked the economy and increased the debt more loony. Then to top it off their leader was made "Middle east peace envoy" now that is LOONY.

Who privatized the railways so all commuters in this country have to pay inflation busting fare increases with no improvements in service?

Who privatized the gas/electricity in this country so the poor/middle class have no money left in recessions when these companies plunder us with inflation busting prince increases with no improvements in service?

Who privatized the water?

Who was the party that decided to get re-elected its best strategy was to hammer and destroy the communities in the north, midlands, scotland and wales for the benefit of the folks in the southeast? Don;t worry the press were in her tank ask liverpool about hillsborough.

Your party destroyed lifes and these people had children raised with no hope, no opportunity and they are the ones on benefits or unemployed that are now members of the BNP/UKIP.

Thatchers legacy is not in the south. forget a state funeral. give every man a shovel north of watford gap she will be delivered to satan personally and you can take that off the debt that continues to rise under cameron *advisor during black wednesday in 92 and osborne chancellor with no qualifications in economics. just two eton chums backed by hedge fund managers who want a piece of more government services for the profit of a few.

welcome to britain...the only way you get rich here is when granny/mummy dies

*not applicable to people north of watford gap house prices will remain crap.

 

[Donerail]

Seriously? Change the avatar. It's just confusing everyone.

[LastVoter]

Seriously? Change the avatar. It's just confusing everyone.

Yea, he's turning into a true leftist now, I don't think I could have came up with a more scathing post about Thatcher.

[Siloch]

It really confuses me how so many people on the left hate Margaret Thatcher so much while knowing nothing about her.

Britain's industry especially mining was in decline way before Thatcher came to power, because the unions refused to allow modernisation, insisting it would cost jobs and instead just threatend "strike action" so the government would bend over and spend millions of pounds on keeping the dying industry alive and they would get their way. This was hurting Britain, we were the sick man of Europe in the late 1970s.

In 1979, UK national debt was 43.6 percent of the national GDP in 1990 when Thatcher left it was down to just 26.6 percent. Thatcher did not have a rich "mummy or daddy" and she actually opened up a lot of "closed shops" like the City of London to the ordinary working man.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Scintillating debate!

[freefair]

Who was the party that decided to get re-elected its best strategy was to hammer and destroy the communities in the north, midlands, scotland and wales

Now wait a minute here sunny , the West and East Midlands are actually slightly Tory leaning relative to the rest of the country (they got 40% in both regions in 2010, and then you have to add on the freemarket liberals and UKIP voters in order to correctly judge the proportion of "right wing" leaning electors). The majority of MP's and councils of the midlands are Tory. Even Wolverhampton had 2/3 Tory MP's in the 80s and 90s.
There are pockets of Labourdom, but the Midlands aren't anywhere nearly as Labour leaning as the other areas you mention. You also neglect to say that the Southeast+East Anglia+London has only 30% of the nations MP's, and in Greater London half of them are Labour. And you know what, it wasn't Thatcher that wiped out Tory representation in Scotland, it was Blair and the SNP in 1997, 10 years after her final general election.

Back to the point, yes, UKIP have some mentalists who may from time to time post on official forums, but then so do LabLibCon. No worse than that. Oh and by the way, a quite obviously Polish named guy joining UKIP- what a bunch of Xenophobes. Nigel Farage's German wife- Xenophobia? Marta Andreason MEP. Xenophobes?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Even Wolverhampton had 2/3 Tory MP's in the 80s and 90s.

Just for the 1987-1992 parliament. So technically you're right, but the implication is... not so much...

[freefair]

Even Wolverhampton had 2/3 Tory MP's in the 80s and 90s.

Just for the 1987-1992 parliament. So technically you're right, but the implication is... not so much...

Meh, they lost Wolvo NE by just 0.4% in 83.

[User157088589849]

Margaret thatcher never got more than 42% of the vote.

The split of the left into two different parties - labour and the sdp - kept thatcher in power for so long. If you add the total votes from the sdp and labour in constituencies north of watford gap, thatcher would have the same number of tory mps as john major did in 1992.

In 2010, another lie spouted by the right is that the tories won a majority of seats in the midlands and its a conservative territory. In Loughborough, nicky morgan the ppc for the tory party spent 12,500 on her seat in 4 weeks, while labours andy reed the incumbent spent £500. Nicky morgan had footsoldiers from the home counties stampeding our streets. I never saw Labour once until 4 days before the election. My close friends in beeston, which is the broxtowe constituency saw the same thing. Anna soubry ppc candidate for the conservative party had home county foot soliders pounding the steets against nick palmer 3 term leader. she won by less than 500 votes after 2 recounts. The same happened in sherwood and in amber valley - where i work. The constuituecny next to mine in loughborough - nw leicestershire - saw the tories spend just under 25000 compared to labour 500.

The press never reported who funded the parties or what they want but democracy was stolen by a small group of people in the city of london. The people funding these campaigns were hedge fund managers from the south. The people campaigning on our doorsteps were people from the south looking for research jobs or parliamentary assistant jobs.I grew up under thatcher in power and thanks to her i had a poor education and was left on the scrapheap all because i was born in a constiutiency that didnt vote tory.

Margaret thatcher created mass unemployment with no jobs to apply for, destroyed hundreds of communities for the benefit of the opposite side of the country.

Thatcher is the only democratic leader I can think of to purposefully harm the lifes of a section of her people she represents to benefit others just to get re-elected.

if she isn't a bitch then who is?

democracy should not be about punishing people who didnt vote for you. it should be in th einterests of the country.