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Enderman
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« on: January 19, 2013, 10:06:38 PM »
« edited: January 21, 2013, 03:53:47 PM by Jack Enderman »

Horray for a new timeline! Okay, so lets start. Oh, and the reason I'm doing this is to comemerate, and somewhat celebrate MLK Day, by making a timeline! So, enjoy...

1968 MLK is nearly assassinated, but survives. People are really happy that mlk survived. After Kennedy wins the California primary, mlk endorses Bobby, but when he dies, he announces that he will beat tending his funeral. "Mlk's image is seeming to get better and better" New York Times comments at the end of the year..

1969-1972 MLK has grown in popularity, many people consider for him to run for politics, especially in 1970, he said no, mainly because his seat that he is aiming for isn't up until 1974. MLK still is encouraging, and talking to the African-American community.


questions? corrections? comments? if not, I can continue, oh, and I have a question, should I do this?
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Enderman
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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2013, 11:12:25 PM »


Aw comon! you spoiled the suprise! Sad But I'll still do the story of it! Smiley
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Enderman
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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2013, 07:15:12 AM »
« Edited: January 21, 2013, 07:31:22 AM by Jack Enderman »

my friend said he was a democrat, but in the story I'll make him an independent... then eventually, probably under Reagan, he'll be a republican. Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2013, 07:30:57 AM »

well, he was a democrat, but I think he was mainly an independent
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Enderman
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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2013, 07:36:57 AM »

okay, here's the update


1972 MLK runs as an independent for the Georgia Senate seat, and he wins! The main reason he won was because of the voting African Americans, whom have had his support throughout his senatoral campaign.
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Enderman
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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2013, 10:48:28 AM »
« Edited: January 21, 2013, 03:25:34 PM by Jack Enderman »

Even newer update!


1972-1976 Senator King is not only the first African American senator, he is also the first Independent senator from Georgia. Okay, so his first term was pretty much uneventfull, just multiple interviews, passing Congressional ledgislature, and responding to comments of him running for President. He declines of the offers, and endorses President Nixon for his reelection, and endorses multiple other southern politicians, except Governor Carter.

1976 During a special election to fill the spot of governor in Georgia, Senator King won that seat, and got to serve as Governor of Georgia.
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Enderman
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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2013, 03:20:20 PM »

my friend said he was a democrat, but in the story I'll make him an independent... then eventually, probably under Reagan, he'll be a republican. Smiley
I don't think MLK would have supported Ronald Reagan

I meant that in my story milk will meet Reagan. But you might be right.
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Enderman
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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2013, 03:31:24 PM »

Horray for a new timeline! Okay, so lets start. Oh, and the reason I'm doing this is to comemerate, and somewhat celebrate MLK Day, by making a timeline! So, enjoy...

1968 MLK is nearly assassinated, soon civil rights activists find James E. Ray, and nearly kill him, but they ask MLK what to do with him, so under MLK's directions, they send him to the Supreme Court of Tennessee, he is later convicted of near murder, thus life in prison, but the African American community doesn't feel like that was enough, so they send him to the Supreme Court, there, he is sentenced to death, but it was to be held after the 1968 election.

Do you have any idea about judicial system and penal code?

I changed it.
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Enderman
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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2013, 03:48:27 PM »

Horray for a new timeline! Okay, so lets start. Oh, and the reason I'm doing this is to comemerate, and somewhat celebrate MLK Day, by making a timeline! So, enjoy...

1968 MLK is nearly assassinated, soon civil rights activists find James E. Ray, and nearly kill him, but they ask MLK what to do with him, so under MLK's directions, they send him to the Supreme Court of Tennessee, he is later convicted of near murder, thus life in prison, but the African American community doesn't feel like that was enough, so they send him to the Supreme Court, there, he is sentenced to death, but it was to be held after the 1968 election.

Do you have any idea about judicial system and penal code?

I changed it.

First of all, a failed assassination attempt was neither state nor federal capital crime. Second, there was an effective moratorium on executions in the United States after 1967. Third, you have no idea about trial procedure: the Supreme Count is the last instance of appeals.

I mean what the fyck, kid? I appreciate your enthusiasm but learn about some basic facts before spamming this board. 

I'm sorry.. I'm actually just starting politics, and this was just for my entertainment.
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Enderman
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« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2013, 03:54:46 PM »

Horray for a new timeline! Okay, so lets start. Oh, and the reason I'm doing this is to comemerate, and somewhat celebrate MLK Day, by making a timeline! So, enjoy...

1968 MLK is nearly assassinated, soon civil rights activists find James E. Ray, and nearly kill him, but they ask MLK what to do with him, so under MLK's directions, they send him to the Supreme Court of Tennessee, he is later convicted of near murder, thus life in prison, but the African American community doesn't feel like that was enough, so they send him to the Supreme Court, there, he is sentenced to death, but it was to be held after the 1968 election.

Do you have any idea about judicial system and penal code?

I changed it.

First of all, a failed assassination attempt was neither state nor federal capital crime. Second, there was an effective moratorium on executions in the United States after 1967. Third, you have no idea about trial procedure: the Supreme Count is the last instance of appeals.

I mean what the fyck, kid? I appreciate your enthusiasm but learn about some basic facts before spamming this board. 

Okay,if that's not good you could just do it how it would be.
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Enderman
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« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2013, 05:16:01 PM »
« Edited: January 21, 2013, 06:15:08 PM by Jack Enderman »

Horray for a new timeline! Okay, so lets start. Oh, and the reason I'm doing this is to comemerate, and somewhat celebrate MLK Day, by making a timeline! So, enjoy...

1968 MLK is nearly assassinated, soon civil rights activists find James E. Ray, and nearly kill him, but they ask MLK what to do with him, so under MLK's directions, they send him to the Supreme Court of Tennessee, he is later convicted of near murder, thus life in prison, but the African American community doesn't feel like that was enough, so they send him to the Supreme Court, there, he is sentenced to death, but it was to be held after the 1968 election.

Do you have any idea about judicial system and penal code?

I changed it.

First of all, a failed assassination attempt was neither state nor federal capital crime. Second, there was an effective moratorium on executions in the United States after 1967. Third, you have no idea about trial procedure: the Supreme Count is the last instance of appeals.

I mean what the fyck, kid? I appreciate your enthusiasm but learn about some basic facts before spamming this board.  

I'm sorry.. I'm actually just starting politics, and this was just for my entertainment.
Don't use this board for your own entertainment.

I meant to add "and other people's entertainment" but I was rushed, so I forgot.


Okay, thanks...
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Enderman
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« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2013, 06:17:22 PM »

Horray for a new timeline! Okay, so lets start. Oh, and the reason I'm doing this is to comemerate, and somewhat celebrate MLK Day, by making a timeline! So, enjoy...

1968 MLK is nearly assassinated, soon civil rights activists find James E. Ray, and nearly kill him, but they ask MLK what to do with him, so under MLK's directions, they send him to the Supreme Court of Tennessee, he is later convicted of near murder, thus life in prison, but the African American community doesn't feel like that was enough, so they send him to the Supreme Court, there, he is sentenced to death, but it was to be held after the 1968 election.

Do you have any idea about judicial system and penal code?

I changed it.

First of all, a failed assassination attempt was neither state nor federal capital crime. Second, there was an effective moratorium on executions in the United States after 1967. Third, you have no idea about trial procedure: the Supreme Count is the last instance of appeals.

I mean what the fyck, kid? I appreciate your enthusiasm but learn about some basic facts before spamming this board.  

I'm sorry.. I'm actually just starting politics, and this was just for my entertainment.

Sorry for snapping at you. Naturally we all have to start and it's great to have young people becoming interested in politics. Just please keep three things in mind:

1. When you post something on the forum it's no longer just for your entertainment. There are standards of posting.
2. Try to be realistic. Checking facts is never a waste of time.
3. Better use spell check (feature you can see when you're posting). Personally, I'm using it constantly since I'm not a native English speaker.

It's okay, I don't mind really, I will keep those things in mind..
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Enderman
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« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2013, 06:23:41 PM »

I think his career stalls out in the House of Representatives, but he spends his entire life there and becomes incredibly well-respected, a la John Lewis. There's even the chance he becomes Speaker at some point.

A lot of the universal regard MLK has today is because he was cut down before his time. He would have been more controversial otherwise, especially with his growing anti-war activism and socialist leanings. He would have been a well-regarded civil rights leader no matter what, but he was likely too left-wing for a statewide election, most likely, to say nothing of the Presidency.

Thanks for getting us back on topic Ray Goldfield. I wouldn't have thought of mlk as near socialist.
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Enderman
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« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2013, 07:11:47 PM »

Wow, he really quickly bashed you.
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Enderman
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« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2013, 07:26:43 PM »

I doubt MLK can make it in electoral politics.  His positions on black Americans, as well as other disadvantaged Americans, should be compensated for historical wrongs would have sunk him.  If Obama held those positions he would not win either.  Also do not forget about all those extramarital liaisons which were all cast aside after his assassination and rise to saint status but would be quite relevent in a mere mortal running for office if and when they came out.

Okay guys, any other things I should know?
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Enderman
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« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2013, 08:35:04 PM »

well, he was a democrat, but I think he was mainly an independent
No, he wasn't a Democrat.  The Congressional candidates he endorsed were mostly Republicans.  He was neither a Democrat nor a Republican.  I remember watching an old interview he did for NBC in 1957, and he said that both parties were found wanting on civil rights.

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I thought that MLK covertly supported LBJ in 1964 against Barry Goldwater, but began to turn against him after the Vietnam War began to heat up around 1966 or 1967. I know that LBJ said some pretty nasty things about him around 1967 though.

So, if that stuff leaked to MLK, he would probably endorse Nixon. I really doubt he would endorse Wallace.
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Enderman
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« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2013, 05:27:23 PM »

well, he was a democrat, but I think he was mainly an independent
No, he wasn't a Democrat.  The Congressional candidates he endorsed were mostly Republicans.  He was neither a Democrat nor a Republican.  I remember watching an old interview he did for NBC in 1957, and he said that both parties were found wanting on civil rights.

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-Martin Luther King Jr., in 1958
I thought that MLK covertly supported LBJ in 1964 against Barry Goldwater, but began to turn against him after the Vietnam War began to heat up around 1966 or 1967. I know that LBJ said some pretty nasty things about him around 1967 though.

So, if that stuff leaked to MLK, he would probably endorse Nixon. I really doubt he would endorse Wallace.
I highly doubt that MLK would have endoresd Nixon in 1968 due to Nixon pursuing a "Southern Strategy" in order to appeal to the votes of voters who supported segregation. He might have reluctantly supported Humphrey or not supported anyone in the 1968 election. I am almost certain that MLK would have strongly supported George McGovern in 1972 though and might have even been his running mate if he was more openly involved in politics by then.

Well, in my tl he said that he didn't want to be anybody's running mate. He said he was more Independent than anything politically-wise. Thanks for the info on that! Smiley
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Enderman
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« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2013, 06:10:57 PM »

well, he was a democrat, but I think he was mainly an independent
No, he wasn't a Democrat.  The Congressional candidates he endorsed were mostly Republicans.  He was neither a Democrat nor a Republican.  I remember watching an old interview he did for NBC in 1957, and he said that both parties were found wanting on civil rights.

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You must be logged in to read this quote.
-Martin Luther King Jr., in 1958
I thought that MLK covertly supported LBJ in 1964 against Barry Goldwater, but began to turn against him after the Vietnam War began to heat up around 1966 or 1967. I know that LBJ said some pretty nasty things about him around 1967 though.

So, if that stuff leaked to MLK, he would probably endorse Nixon. I really doubt he would endorse Wallace.
I highly doubt that MLK would have endoresd Nixon in 1968 due to Nixon pursuing a "Southern Strategy" in order to appeal to the votes of voters who supported segregation. He might have reluctantly supported Humphrey or not supported anyone in the 1968 election. I am almost certain that MLK would have strongly supported George McGovern in 1972 though and might have even been his running mate if he was more openly involved in politics by then.

Well, in my tl he said that he didn't want to be anybody's running mate. He said he was more Independent than anything politically-wise. Thanks for the info on that! Smiley
If that were the case, maybe John Anderson would have picked MLK as his running mate instead of former Wisconsin Governor Patrick Lucey when he ran as an Independent candidate against Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan in 1980. Or maybe MLK would have ran as an Independent in John Anderson's place.

Like Anderson/King, and/or King/Anderson?
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