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« on: January 24, 2013, 12:22:22 AM »

Obviously there'd be a wider variety of parties. Here's what I see:

-The Democrats would quite shrink and the closest thing to the current Democratic party would be a party similar to say the Social Democrats in Germany or Dutch Labour or the French Socialists in recent years, one that would be obviously left of center in platform and would retain a good relationship with labor unions and the like, but would still be open to free trade and not too aggressive in terms of tax rates. Pretty much the same in regards to the current Democrats in social issues, though it would've shifted on gay marriage a lot faster than the Democrats did if this system had been already in use since the turn of the century. Consistently gets around 25% of the vote.
-There'd also be a party to the left of the Democrats and more concerned and aggressive with economics, might have some socially conservative factions in the past but now opposing gay marriage would be anathema and it'd be tearing up over guns at the moment. Probably would do better than most comparable parties in Europe since it wouldn't have the stigma of being linked to old communists or anything like that (of course the right's voters would think that, but for anyone willing to vote for them it'd be meaningless.) Gets about 10-15% of the vote. As absurd as the Elizabeth Warren/Dennis Kucinich comparison was elsewhere this is a good question as to who'd lead it, which would have a huge effect on how well they did of course.
-Some party that's to the left of the current Democrats and maybe even the main center left party on social issues, but would be centrist in economic platform and at least center-right in actual policy, think the right wing of the Liberal Democrats. Andrew Cuomo is a perfect example of what this party would be like (well maybe a bit more pro-environment). Probably pulls about 5-10% of the vote.
-The rump Republican party would be like what you'd get if threw out all the special interests and crazies, probably best comparable to George HW Bush or Chris Christie to use a contemporary example. Would pull around 30-40% of the vote, now obviously near the low end of it.
-Hardcore social conservatives who aren't afraid of more leftist economic policies are another obvious example. At least historically, now they'd be only superficially economically moderate like Mike Huckabee. Might also include some Tom Tancredo-esque nationalists. Typically pulling around 10%.
-There'd be a party to the right of the rump Republicans too though they'd go from barely relevant numbers in the past to huge now and might've even at one point look like they'd dethrone the rump Republicans as the main right wing party (think the Progress Party in Norway.) Basically for the Michele Bachmanns and Allen Wests. Would be full of socially conservative crazies but rhetoric wise would emphasize just economics in terms of being to the right of the rump Republicans. Would've been polling near 20% recently, but on the decline and now in the low teens.
-You'd probably also have a Paulite type party, running a large range on social issues but would be consistently opposed to things like the PATRIOT Act and in favor of marijuana legalization, very right wing economically but not in a corporatist way like the rump Republicans, and very anti-interventionist. Probably never gets more than 5%, but would make lots of noise.

And some other scattered parties that may or may not make the threshold depending on what it is. Some Green party (more like European Greens than what the US Green Party is), and some remnants of historical agrarian or racial minority based parties that might occasionally rise thanks to protest voting.
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« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2013, 02:02:26 AM »

You would get a good idea of what parties would exist by looking at the different caucuses in Congress.

Progressive Party
Leader: Bernie Sanders
Its members would be left wing liberals, minorities and feminists.  They would be in favor of all types of civil rights, labor rights, infrastructure improvements and taxing the 1%.

New Democrats
Leader: Hilary Clinton
They would be considered a slightly left-leaning party, but they would consider themselves pragmatists. 

Blue Dogs
Leader: Jim Matheson
A more conservative version of the New Democrats on social issues.

Labor Party
Leader: Stephen Lynch
The voice of the working men and women.  Would side with the Progressive Party on certain issues but would be a lot more conservative.

Green Party
Leader: Jill Stein
An advocate for sustainable growth, renewable energy, mass transportation and cycling.  Strong mostly in Alaska, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington and Northern California.

Tea Party
Leader: Rand Paul
The party of no taxation, small government and libertarian principles.

Conservative Party
Leader: John Boehner
Strong on national defense, favors budget cuts on anything but military expenditures, and is conservative on social issues.

Christian Democratic Party
Leader: Rick Santorum
The party of Christian values that believes strongly in the role of religion in a society.

Libertarian Party
Leader: Gary Johnson
Has similar beliefs with the Tea Party but is a lot more liberal on social issues.
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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2013, 07:16:37 AM »

BRTD, what's the threshold in your scenario? 5%, 4%, 1/#of seats?
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« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2013, 08:12:25 AM »

The Left

Socialist Party - left-wing, democratic socialism.

Green Party - left-wing, green politics and social democracy.

Progressive Party - center-left, social democracy and social liberalism.

The Center

Moderate Party - centrist, ranging from neoliberalism to conservative liberalism. This party would include the Democratic Leadership Council, moderate Republicans, and Blue Dog Democrats.

The Right

Conservative Party - center-right, progressive conservatism and christian democracy.

Libertarian Party - right-wing, libertarianism.

American Heritage Party - far-right, third positionism/fascism.
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« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2013, 09:12:16 PM »

This is based off an MMP system with a four percent threshold

For a Just America

Progressive Party: The most fiscally centrist of the left wing parties and defined mostly by it's social liberalism. It appeals to students, minorities, and urban progressives.
Leader: Barack Obama
Prominent Members: Hillary Clinton, Angus King

Labour Party: Fiscally centre left and somewhat populist. This party attracts the white working class. Has a socially conservative Catholic/Evangelical wing.
Leader: Brian Schweitzer
Prominent Members: Joe Manchin, Bob Casey

GreenLeft: Hard left and supports green politics. Socially ultra liberal. Supported by hippies, some college professors and other assorted leftists.
Leader: Bernie Sanders
Prominent Members: Ralph Nader, Jill Stein


Alliance for Freedom

Conservative Party: Broad based conservative party, with the strongest line on national defense of any major party. Party of upper middle class WASPs
Leader: Mitt Romney
Prominent Members: Scott Brown, John McCain

Free Democratic Party: Ron Paul lite. Fiscally conservative, socially liberal with a strong following among secular right wingers and college students.
Leader: Ron Paul
Prominent Members: Rand Paul, Gary Johnson

American Heritage Party: Fiscally right of centre, although it is willing to embrace of unorthodox ideas. Socially conservative and anti-immigration. Mainly supported by southern evangelicals, although it is gaining support among conservative Catholics.
Leader: Rick Santorum
Prominent Members: Michelle Bachmann, Pat Buchanan


2012 Election Results
Progressive Party: 38%, 169 seats
Conservative Party: 29%, 128 seats
American Heritage Party: 14%, 62 seats
Labour Party: 12%, 53 seats
Free Democratic Party: 5%, 22 seats
GreenLeft: 2%, 1 seat (Bernie Sanders)

For a Just America: 52%, 223 seats
Alliance for Freedom: 48% 212 seats
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« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2013, 06:49:12 PM »
« Edited: February 09, 2013, 11:13:34 AM by Peter Colin the Lefty »

Conservative Party
Leader: Chris Christie
Other prominent members: Mitch McConnell, Marco Rubio, Susan Collins, Lindsay Graham, Mitt Romney, John McCain, John Boehner
Ideology: Conservatism, Economic liberalism, Center-right
Policies: Traditional center-right party.  Supports low taxes, free trade, minimal regulation of business, privatization, and major reductions in spending on Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid (though not musing about abolishing any of them).  Normally supportive of war efforts and more spending on defense,  Generally pro-life (though not prone to "legitimate rape" gaffes, usually pro-death penalty, and opposed to gay marriage, though not about to repeal other recent advances in the field of gay rights.  

New Democratic Coalition
Leader: Barack Obama
Other important members: Hillary Clinton, Andrew Cuomo, Deval Patrick, Bill Clinton, John Kerry, Jerry Brown, Chuck Schumer, Harry Reid
Ideology: Liberalism, Social Liberalism, Third Way, center to center-left
Policies: Supports moderate tax rates, free trade, and some regulations of business.  Wants to keep Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, but wants to reform them.  Supports private sector incentives to achieve universal health care.  Supports Afghan war, and by and large backed the Iraq war at the offset, but turned against it around 2005.  Pro-choice, anti-death penalty, and as of 2012, pro-gay marriage.  Pro-environment in rhetoric, though many of its members, like Cuomo, are quite willing to do large favors for the cracking industry.  

Progressive Left Party
Leader: Elizabeth Warren
Other important members: Nancy Pelosi, Bernie Sanders, Russ Feingold, Tammy Baldwin, Van Jones, John Lewis, Patrick Leahy, Jim Clyburn, John Lewis
Ideology: Social Democracy, Democratic Socialism, American Progressivism, Center-left to Left
Policies: Supports high tax rates on the wealthy, fair trade over free trade, and more business regulations.  Strongly opposes any attempt to cut funding for social programs.  Proposes a single-taxpayer health care system.  Supported the Afghan War at the beginning, but now opposes it, and opposed the Iraq War from the offset.  Pro-choice, anti-death penalty, always ahead of the curb on gay rights, and very pro-environment.  

American National Alliance
Leader: Michelle Bachmann
Prominent Members: Eric Cantor, Paul Ryan, Jim DeMint, Newt Gingrich, Rick Perry, Herman Cain, Rick Santorum
Ideology: Conservatism, Populism, American Nationalism, Social Conservatism, Christian Democracy, Economic Liberalism, Right-wing
Policies: Supports very drastic tax reductions and opposes nearly any attempt to regulate business or free trade (though some factions do support protectionism on a nationalist basis).  Wants to phase out all social programs over time.  Wants to undo all the NDC government's health care reforms as well.  Has always supported nearly every war, though recently has taken on a vaguely non-interventionist tone.  Opposes separation of church and state, holding America to be a "Christian nation."  Vehemently pro-life (even in cases of "legitimate rape" lol), pro-death penalty, and opposed to all gay rights (believing it to be a sin).  Believes climate change is a farce.  Oh, and they think the Earth is 6000 years old.

Libertarian Party
Leader: Ron Paul
Others: Rand Paul, Gary Johnson
Ideology: Libertarianism, economic liberalism, Fiscal: Right-wing, Social: Left-wing
Policies: Economically very similar to the ANA, though if anything even further to the right.  Demands extreme reductions in all taxes (and the abolishment of some), opposes any regulations of business and any barriers to free trade.  Supports the abolishment or privatization of all social programs, and opposes any attempt to subsidize health insurance.  Anti-war in nearly any situation.  But unlike the ANA, it is very secular with respect to social policy, although it's leader Ron Paul is passionately pro-life.  Supportive of gay rights (though Paul personally sees homosexuality as a deviance).  Anti-death penalty.  Divided on climate change.  

National Labor Party
Leader: Claire McCasgill
Others: Steven Lynch, Mark Critz, Mark Begich
Ideology: Populism, Social Democracy, Social Conservatism: Economic: Center-left, Social: Center-right
Policies: Supports high taxes on the wealthy, labor unions, business regulations, and tough trade regulations.  Also very supportive of all social programs and opposed to any reductions in them.  Divided on the issue of health care, though seeks some sort of a universal system one way or another.  Generally hawkish in foreign policy.  Supported Afghan and Iraq wars and still supports Afghan war.  On social issues, it is rather conservative.  It's pro-life, pro-death penalty, and opposed to gay marriage.  

Blue Dog Alliance
Leader: Max Baucus
Others: Ben Nelson, Mike McIntyre,
Ideology: Conservatism, Populism, Center-right
Policies: Virtually identical to those of the Conservative Party, just more agrarian and populist in tone.  

Socialist Left Party
Leader: Cynthia McKinney
Others: Barbara Lee, Dennis Kucinich
Ideology: Democratic Socialism, Pacifism, Far-Left
Policies: Set apart from the PLP mainly by its more pacifist views on wars.  Opposes most of even the most popular and swift interventions, like in Kosovo and in Libya.  Also, if anything, more economically left-wing than the PLP.  
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« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2013, 06:59:49 PM »

There'd likely be a couple of single-issue parties that only got a handful of seats. One of them would inevitably be a Right-to-Life Party.
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« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2013, 10:35:38 PM »

New Democratic Coalition
Leader: Barack Obama
Other important members: Hillary Clinton, Andrew Cuomo, Deval Patrick, Bill Clinton, John Kerry, Jerry Brown, Chuck Schumer, Harry Reid
Ideology: Liberalism, Social Liberalism, Third Way, center to center-left
Policies: Supports moderate tax rates, free trade, and some regulations of business.  Wants to keep Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, but wants to reform them.  Supports private sector incentives to achieve universal health care.  Supports Afghan war, and by and large backed the Iraq war at the offset, but turned against it around 2005.  Pro-choice, anti-death penalty, and as of 2012, pro-gay marriage.  Pro-environment in rhetoric, though many of its members, like Cuomo, are quite willing to do large favors for the cracking industry.  

I assume you meant fracking. Tongue
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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2013, 02:03:18 AM »

I think parties wouldn't organize solely based on ideological lines. Ideology has always been a minor factor in US history. American politics are, and have always been founded primarily on communities of interests (otherwise called lobbies, factions, or however you want), ie groups of people with a common trait (which might be ethnic, gendered, economic, professional, or based on a person's activities). I think a multi-party US is very likely to see a "black" party, a "hispanic" party, a "religious" party (or several), and many other stuffs of the kind.
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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2013, 04:03:51 AM »

Some guesses....

Green Party

Leader: Ralph Nader (though is moving towards Jill Stein)
Other members: Dennis Kuninch, Cynthia McKinney
Ideology: Green politics, democratic socialism, Left to far-left.
Further info: Would be the major far-left party in recent years following the irrelevance of the Communist Party (which would've had at best a minor role at their peak anyway), but still pretty irrelevant. Probably would've gotten most of their support during the late 90's/early 00's, until the Iraq War, and would be more pacifistic and environmentally conscious than the Progressives. Would only get support in very left-wing hippy areas, in places like Vermont, and in certain enclaves on the West Coast.
Most similar party: Australian Greens probably.

Progressive Party

Leader: Elizabeth Warren
Other members: Howard Dean, Bernie Sanders, Russ Feingold, Tammy Baldwin, Barbara Boxer
Ideology: Social democracy, American progressivism, center-left to left.
Further info: Probably would've been created around 2003 due to a backlash from Labor and Liberal politicians over Iraq, this party would be the main progressive/left party these days. It would be the party that the Kos-types support, and would be rapidly emerging. Basically supports most progressive items, but would be more moderate and palatable than the Greens. Opposes most wars, but will support in certain circumstances. Is pushing for issues such as single-payer health care, gay marriage and filibuster reform. Would be largely limited to the cities in their appeal however, but would win urban whites in liberal areas and would compete with Labor and Liberal for the votes of minorities.
Most similar party: Canada's NDP.

Liberal Party

Leader: Barack Obama
Other members: The Clintons, Chuck Schumer, Harry Reid, Steny Hoyer, John Kerry, Martin O'Malley, Deval Patrick.
Ideology: American liberalism, social liberalism, Third Way, center to center-left.
Further info: The major center-left party today, and would have dominated American government historically although they are losing power. They tend to support the continuation of most government initiatives, which would've largely been introduced by them (with support from Labor) but tend to be more moderate and are willing to keep their options on the table regarding regulations, taxes and social programs in order to gain support from suburbanites and to keep the country running effectively. Would mostly be socially liberal but are fairly moderate on foreign policy. Their coalition would be similar to the current Democratic Party, except for shedding more working-class voters and urban progressives.
Most similar party: actual American Democrats, Canada's Liberals.

Labor Party

Leader: Brian Schweitzer
Other members: Stephen Lynch, Bob Casey, Mike Beebe
Ideology: Social democracy, populism, social conservatism. Economic: Center-left, Social: Center-right
Further info: The working man's party, and would be the most supported 'left' party historically. They still however get support in industrial areas and would poll well in the Rust Belt and Appalachia. Would largely support regulation, the safety net, and higher taxes, but would largely be pro-life, pro-gun and somewhat nationalistic and anti-immigration.
Most similar party: I don't really know - but I think something like this exists.

Democrat Party

Leader: Andrew Cuomo
Other members: Michael Bloomberg, Gavin Newsom
Ideology: Liberalism, social liberalism, economic liberalism, Center.
Further info: Potentially could be seen as a 'moderate hero' style party, these guys tend to be pretty radical on economic issues and are willing to cut taxes and social programs. However, generally they tend to be more liberal on social issues, and in fact are stronger backers of issues such as gay marriage than even the Liberals, which is what separates them from the Tories. Much of their support comes from the wealthy and college kids who descend from Conservatives.
Most similar party: UK's Liberal Democrats, the name is based on the old Australian Democrats party.

Conservative Party

Leader: Chris Christie, following the meltdown of Mitt Romney.
Other members: John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, John McCain, The Bushes, Marco Rubio, Orrin Hatch, Susan Collins, Susana Martinez
Ideology: American conservatism, liberal conservatism, center-right
Further info: The major right-wing party, and would've largely dominated American politics since the 1980's. In general they support most major conservative policies - they aren't afraid to cut taxes and entitlements, and most people in the party agree that the government should be as small as possible and want to cut spending as much as possible. However, the majority of the party do not want to end entitlements completely, and don't mind pork that much. They are the most hawkish of the major parties, and are also generally socially conservative. However, their rhetoric is different to the Tea Party, as they have clashed with the party over abortion (legitimate rape and all that), and the party is moderating on immigration and gay rights. In addition, the party tries to compromise and make deals with other parties. The main coalition for this party would be akin to the Republican coalition of the 80’s, with stronger support than the current Republican party in the suburbs.
Most similar party: Any center-right party in the world.

Blue Dog Alliance

Leader: Mike Huckabee
Other members: Mike McIntyre, Ben Nelson
Ideology: Populism, social conservatism, agrarianism, center to center-right.
Further info: Similar to the Conservative and Democrat party, but more populist in their tone and not as right-wing as the Tea Party. Some people are fairly moderate but have a different sort of appeal than Democrat-types. In other cases they are very right-wing on social issues but aren’t afraid of more left-wing economic policies. In general, they would be socially conservative but somewhat fiscally protectionist and progressive. Their main support would be in farmland areas, plus older Dixiecrat areas that are kinda populist.
Most similar party: No idea, Australian Nationals could work but not significantly.

Tea Party

Leader: Ted Cruz
Other members: Rick Santorum, Allen West, Michelle Bachmann, Sarah Palin, Jim DeMint, Joe Walsh, Eric Cantor
Ideology: Populist conservatism, social conservatism, national conservatism, right-wing.
Further info: Would have been created around 2009 over the perceived moderation of the Conservatives, and would be rapidly rising in support. Similar to the Conservatives in their policies, but not so much in their rhetoric – they staunchly oppose the current leadership and liberals in general. They make more of a fuss on social issues, and have also refused to comply with issues such as the debt ceiling, pork distribution, and the fiscal cliff. They would get their main support among rural and exurban whites.
Most similar party: Probably the Reform Party of Canada, no idea about modern parties though.

Libertarian Party

Leader: Rand Paul
Other members: Ron Paul, Gary Johnson
Ideology: Fiscal liberalism, social liberalism, pacifism. Economic: far-right, social: left-wing
Further info: In some ways, a more extreme version of the Democrat Party, in that they don’t really believe in government at all. They take a major ‘hands-off’ role with the economy, with limited taxes, little regulation and the scaling back of entitlements. They are more mixed however on other issues. Most people disagree with foreign intervention, but some feel that in some cases intervention is necessary in rare cases. Most people agree with a ‘states rights’ approach to social issues, but their personal beliefs due differ. You usually see libertarians on the internet, as in real life.
Most similar party: The actual Libertarian party Tongue

American National Party

Leader: Tom Tancredo
Ideology: National conservatism, social conservatism, far-right.
Further info: Similar to the Tea Party, but are more focused on immigration, and are somewhat more populist on economic issues. Like most far-right nationalist parties, they hate anyone that isn’t a straight white Christian male, and have proposed major controls on border control. Their main support is with whites in border areas and some working-class places in the South.
Most similar parties: Any far-right nationalist party.

Right to Life Party

Leader: Randal Terry
Ideology: Opposition to abortion, right-wing.
Further info: Mostly concerned with abortion, they are out to protect the lives on the unborn and heavily restrict or ban abortion. Indeed, they are happy to support anyone pro-life. Other than that, they are generally right-wing, although they could differ on non-abortion issues.

Pirate Party

Ideology: Pirate politics
Further info: This party generally focuses on internet and privacy issues, and want a more open and free society and internet. They also want more transparency in the state and in life. Yes, they are aligned with other Pirate Parties.

There would also be some parties based on rights for certain races and groups, but they wouldn’t get much support. Yes, I realise that a lot of this is similar to other posts, but they’re good! Tongue
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« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2013, 05:15:11 AM »
« Edited: February 05, 2013, 05:25:14 AM by blagohair.com »

Good list "Those who tell" but if Rand Paul was the leader of the Libertarian Party, Gary Johnson would leave.  He recently called Rand a sell-out.  I could see him joining the Pirate Party which would then merge with the Marijuana Party.  If Johnson was the party leader, I could see Rand moving to the Tea Party.
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« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2013, 06:21:42 AM »

We'd probably have the same parties, just that the Greens, Libertarians, Conservatives, and their ilk would be marginally better off.
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« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2013, 06:36:11 AM »

We'd probably have the same parties, just that the Greens, Libertarians, Conservatives, and their ilk would be marginally better off.

Although they could easily be in a position to make demands as Democrats or Republicans would likely not have an absolute majority.
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« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2013, 07:13:42 AM »

If New Zealand is anything to go by - and you would probably need a comparable crisis-in-faith in the political system to that which En Zed had in the early 90s for anything to happen at all, so, yeah, we should factor that into things - the two big parties would remain the two big parties. But you would see a huge upsurge in small parties (generally headed by dissident figures from the big parties) in the first couple of elections. They would collectively hold the balance of power. Most would rapidly become very unpopular. Their support would eventually collapse, except for maybe one or two that say (and so sell) things that the big parties don't.
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« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2013, 08:35:55 AM »

If New Zealand is anything to go by - and you would probably need a comparable crisis-in-faith in the political system to that which En Zed had in the early 90s for anything to happen at all, so, yeah, we should factor that into things - the two big parties would remain the two big parties. But you would see a huge upsurge in small parties (generally headed by dissident figures from the big parties) in the first couple of elections. They would collectively hold the balance of power. Most would rapidly become very unpopular. Their support would eventually collapse, except for maybe one or two that say (and so sell) things that the big parties don't.

True. It all depends on when the system kicks off. If it was the early 90’s you’d have a Buchanan led party that did well, divided the Republicans a little too much and dissolved by the late 90’s.  You may see a few ‘sister’ parties emerge; Farmer-Labor for example, or a conservative party in Alaska where the Republican’s may see no need to organise at all.
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« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2013, 11:00:25 AM »

Third parties might capture 10% of seats. People aren't going to just start voting for these third parties, like Al said, something needs to happen first.
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« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2013, 12:24:22 PM »

New Democratic Coalition
Leader: Barack Obama
Other important members: Hillary Clinton, Andrew Cuomo, Deval Patrick, Bill Clinton, John Kerry, Jerry Brown, Chuck Schumer, Harry Reid
Ideology: Liberalism, Social Liberalism, Third Way, center to center-left
Policies: Supports moderate tax rates, free trade, and some regulations of business.  Wants to keep Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, but wants to reform them.  Supports private sector incentives to achieve universal health care.  Supports Afghan war, and by and large backed the Iraq war at the offset, but turned against it around 2005.  Pro-choice, anti-death penalty, and as of 2012, pro-gay marriage.  Pro-environment in rhetoric, though many of its members, like Cuomo, are quite willing to do large favors for the cracking industry.  

I assume you meant fracking. Tongue
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« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2013, 05:50:20 PM »

probably the same ones we have now, we would just have the two main third parties more fairly represented alongside the democratic and republican parties
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« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2013, 06:45:00 PM »

The two big parties would still be the Democrats and the Republicans. This has been going on for far too long to actually change anymore; this would be it. Smaller but significant parties would be a libertarian-focused party which works as something of a 'third pole'; a Green Party which is frequently a junior coalition partner for the Democrats; and a far-right party of some sort. However, I feel like there would be a wide variety of regional parties, many of which would be totally detached from federal politics.
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« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2013, 06:45:46 PM »

From an alternate history I considered writing




American Conservative Union Party:A party from the pre-war era it was the party of government through the war. It heavily stressed a socially libertarian rightest view of politik. Outlawing abortion under the Ronald Reagan/Rev. Martin Luther King administration. Where it shows it's libertarian flair is in the states handling drug and marriage laws. Other famous figures in the party include Current President Ron Paul(ACU-PA) Congressmen Mike Pence(ACU-IN), Chris Daughtry(ACU-NC), Jack Kemp (ACU-NY) the Party of Jefferson, Madison, Coolidge, JFK, and Reagan Also the party of Evangelical, Pentacostal, and other conservative Christian sects as well as many minorities. 

Libertarian Party:Also a pre-war party but has seen massive growth since the war. More socially liberal but very conservative regarding economic and foreign policy. Figures include Senator Gary Johnson (L-NM), Brian Schwicker (L-MT) 

Republican Party:Blamed for the cause of the Liberty War it has shrunk considerably but still has considerable clout. Many Northeastern rightists still keep to the party of Lincolin. Most High Church Christians and Mormans tend with their moderate stances.Figures include Willard "Mitt Romney (R-MA), Richard Lugar (R-IN), Hillary Clinton (R-IL) 

Progressive Party:The standard bearer of the center-left. After the Democrats dissolved in 1985 the Progressives have been trying to court the Republicans to merge with them and leave the right. They are trying to get abortion and gay marriage legalized throughout the country though with little success. Figures include Nancy Pelosi (P-CA), Rudy Guliani (P-NY), Michael Bloomburg (P-NY). The party of FDR and LBJ

Democratic Socialist Party:Further to the Left of the Progressives you have this party. The youngest of the major parties include many (around 25 percent of minorities) that believe in Socialism and liberal social policies. Bernie Sanders, Barney Frank, and Andre Carson lead this new wave of the radical left. The Occupy Movemnet leans heavily in their direction.
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« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2013, 06:56:24 PM »

From an alternate history I considered writing




American Conservative Union Party:A party from the pre-war era it was the party of government through the war. It heavily stressed a socially libertarian rightest view of politik. Outlawing abortion under the Ronald Reagan/Rev. Martin Luther King administration. Where it shows it's libertarian flair is in the states handling drug and marriage laws. Other famous figures in the party include Current President Ron Paul(ACU-PA) Congressmen Mike Pence(ACU-IN), Chris Daughtry(ACU-NC), Jack Kemp (ACU-NY) the Party of Jefferson, Madison, Coolidge, JFK, and Reagan Also the party of Evangelical, Pentacostal, and other conservative Christian sects as well as many minorities.

Libertarian Party:Also a pre-war party but has seen massive growth since the war. More socially liberal but very conservative regarding economic and foreign policy. Figures include Senator Gary Johnson (L-NM), Brian Schwicker (L-MT)

Republican Party:Blamed for the cause of the Liberty War it has shrunk considerably but still has considerable clout. Many Northeastern rightists still keep to the party of Lincolin. Most High Church Christians and Mormans tend with their moderate stances.Figures include Willard "Mitt Romney (R-MA), Richard Lugar (R-IN), Hillary Clinton (R-IL)

Progressive Party:The standard bearer of the center-left. After the Democrats dissolved in 1985 the Progressives have been trying to court the Republicans to merge with them and leave the right. They are trying to get abortion and gay marriage legalized throughout the country though with little success. Figures include Nancy Pelosi (P-CA), Rudy Guliani (P-NY), Michael Bloomburg (P-NY). The party of FDR and LBJ

Democratic Socialist Party:Further to the Left of the Progressives you have this party. The youngest of the major parties include many (around 25 percent of minorities) that believe in Socialism and liberal social policies. Bernie Sanders, Barney Frank, and Andre Carson lead this new wave of the radical left. The Occupy Movemnet leans heavily in their direction.
If abortion wasn't legal, Democratic Socialist Party Vanguard Party would be the largest.
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« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2013, 07:07:59 PM »

As usual, JCL lives in some bizarre self-created netherworld.
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« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2013, 07:24:32 PM »

As usual, JCL lives in some bizarre self-created netherworld.

Nope this is an alternate world is just recovering from a really bad war if you would've read a little closer. If I were writing one much closer to America as she is now, you'd see a Blue Doggish party, a Christian Democrat Party and a left-facist party in addition to the ones you see in the timeline described.
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« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2013, 08:02:46 PM »

As usual, JCL lives in some bizarre self-created netherworld.

Nope this is an alternate world is just recovering from a really bad war if you would've read a little closer. If I were writing one much closer to America as she is now, you'd see a Blue Doggish party, a Christian Democrat Party and a left-facist party in addition to the ones you see in the timeline described.

Is this a non-notable LaRouchite party, or you believing much of the left is fascist?
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