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Question: 'Kay dawgs. Let's do this.
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Socialist Convention: President Eugene V. Debs (Socialist-Indiana)
 
#2
Socialist Convention: Former President Robert M. La Follette, Sr. (Republican/Progressive-Wisconsin)
 
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Republican Convention: Former Governor John Calvin Coolidge (Republican-Massachusetts)
 
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Republican Convention: Former President Robert M. La Follette, Jr. (Republican/Progressive-Wisconsin)
 
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Republican Convention: Senator Hiram W. Johnson (Republican-California)
 
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Democratic Convention: Governor Alfred E. Smith (Democrat-New York)
 
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Democratic Convention: Mr. William G. McAdoo (Democrat-California)
 
#8
Democratic Convention: Congressman John W. Davis (Democrat-West Virginia)
 
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« on: February 10, 2013, 08:03:52 PM »
« edited: February 10, 2013, 08:41:46 PM by Cathcon/Spamage 2013 »

Here we go dawgs. The past four years have been transformative for Atleftica. With a majority, something no president has received since the days of Samuel J. Tilden and the 1876 election, Debs set out to change American fundamentally. His first step though would be getting out of prison. On March 4th, 1921, a local law man of little note swore in Debs as the nation's next President. After that, President Debs pardoned himself and several other Socialists, famously strolling out the front entrance of the prison, arms in the air. After that, Debs succeeded in historic anti-trust laws, transformed the work week and hours, and even succeeded in nationalizing some corporations. As well, in a landmark diplomatic decision, he recognized the Soviet Union, which had emerged from the ashes of the Great War in 1917. However, this was not without a cost. Several large companies, either in direct response to new laws, or fearing Debs' wrath, reacted negatively. A number of firings, drops in stock in mid-1921, and so on occurred. Aside from even the domestic panic, internationally, such policies were not well received and U.S. trade collapsed thanks to embargoes and powerful nations like Great Britain not wishing to do business with the new "United Socialist States of Atleftica" as it was called. Debs responded with a massive public works program intended to aid the unemployed while he took the new Panic of 1921 as his mandate to nationalize even more companies. Now Americans have a chance to have a referendum on the Debs administration, one that will certainly go down in history. For good or ill, it is unsure.

For the Republicans, the three main contenders are 1920 Vice Presidential nominee Calvin Coolidge, former President Robert La Follette, and famed Senator Hiram Johnson. Meanwhile, some moderate Socialists are considering nominated the respected and admired progressive La Follette as opposed to their own highly controversial President. For the Democrats, it is as well down to three candidates. 1920 Vice Presidential nominee Al Smith is running as a Northern liberal, proposing efficiency, tariff reductions, and a more nuanced and market-friendly approach to the economy than Debs. McAdoo, a lawyer and son-in-law of former Governor Woodrow Wilson, is running as the candidate of the rural interests. The lowest tier Democratic candidate though is John W. Davis, a lawyer and Congressman. Whom will you choose?

Two days to give me leeway, though I may cut it short at one day if I feel like it. We'll see.
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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2013, 08:05:31 PM »

Senator Hiram Johnson is the clear choice for the Republican party.
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« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2013, 08:06:12 PM »

President Debs for the Socialists
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« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2013, 08:07:03 PM »

Debs! Four more years of Socialism!
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« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2013, 08:08:37 PM »

Debs
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« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2013, 08:10:32 PM »

Debs, Debs, Debs! Four More Years!
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« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2013, 08:11:40 PM »

You know what? I'm voting to reelect the President.

How will we determine the Vice-President, though? Second-highest vote tally? I don't want Vice President Coolidge assuming office when Debs dies.
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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2013, 08:13:01 PM »
« Edited: February 10, 2013, 08:16:11 PM by SoEA SJoyce »

All the Republican choices are good, but Coolidge seems to be the only one who'll end Debs' disastrous economic policies. Johnson or Borah for VP.
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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2013, 08:14:13 PM »

Debs is getting up there in age...

Regardless, Debs.
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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2013, 08:14:39 PM »

All the Republican choices are good, but Coolidge seems to be the only one who'll end Debs' disastrous economic policies.

You want to put in a man whose policies laid the foundation for the Great Depression?! Coolidge is the last person we want in the seat of the Presidency.
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« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2013, 08:15:31 PM »

You know what? I'm voting to reelect the President.

How will we determine the Vice-President, though? Second-highest vote tally? I don't want Vice President Coolidge assuming office when Debs dies.

This is a Primary. We still have a General, I think.
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« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2013, 08:17:15 PM »

All the Republican choices are good, but Coolidge seems to be the only one who'll end Debs' disastrous economic policies.

You want to put in a man whose policies laid the foundation for the Great Depression?! Coolidge is the last person we want in the seat of the Presidency.

You want a Depression, be my guest. Re-elect Debs and deepen the Panic.
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« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2013, 08:17:40 PM »

I can't decide if I should vote for Coolidge or Smith...
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« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2013, 08:17:46 PM »

You know what? I'm voting to reelect the President.

How will we determine the Vice-President, though? Second-highest vote tally? I don't want Vice President Coolidge assuming office when Debs dies.

This is a Primary. We still have a General, I think.

Ah. Cool.
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« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2013, 08:18:20 PM »

I voted for one of our most underrated POTUS's, Silent Cal. Politicians tend to talk way too much these days. I would like more beef, and less empty calories in the words emanating from the class. We now have politicians like Palin that are almost entirely just junk food. Anyway, it is better to do not much, than do harm.
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« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2013, 08:19:54 PM »

All the Republican choices are good, but Coolidge seems to be the only one who'll end Debs' disastrous economic policies.

You want to put in a man whose policies laid the foundation for the Great Depression?! Coolidge is the last person we want in the seat of the Presidency.

You want a Depression, be my guest. Re-elect Debs and deepen the Panic.


A Depression would never happen if we elect Coolidge!

...Oh. Wait.
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« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2013, 08:23:16 PM »

All the Republican choices are good, but Coolidge seems to be the only one who'll end Debs' disastrous economic policies.

You want to put in a man whose policies laid the foundation for the Great Depression?! Coolidge is the last person we want in the seat of the Presidency.

Many would dispute that, including Uncle Milty (Milton Friedman). We lacked skill in managing the money supply back then. We should put Ben Shalom Bernanke in a time machine to go back and redo it all, once the stock market crash happened.
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« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2013, 08:23:53 PM »

I voted for one of our most underrated POTUS's, Silent Cal. Politicians tend to talk way too much these days. I would like more beef, and less empty calories in the words emanating from the class. We now have politicians like Palin that are almost entirely just junk food. Anyway, it is better to do not much, than do harm.
You think Debs is doing harm?
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« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2013, 08:27:29 PM »

I voted for one of our most underrated POTUS's, Silent Cal. Politicians tend to talk way too much these days. I would like more beef, and less empty calories in the words emanating from the class. We now have politicians like Palin that are almost entirely just junk food. Anyway, it is better to do not much, than do harm.
You think Debs is doing harm?

See: Panic of 1921.
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« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2013, 08:28:21 PM »

I voted for one of our most underrated POTUS's, Silent Cal. Politicians tend to talk way too much these days. I would like more beef, and less empty calories in the words emanating from the class. We now have politicians like Palin that are almost entirely just junk food. Anyway, it is better to do not much, than do harm.
You think Debs is doing harm?

See: Panic of 1921.
Yea, but that's the capitalists' fault and not Debs'. This is why he nationalized a few industries and started a public works program to solve these problems.
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« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2013, 08:29:02 PM »

All the Republican choices are good, but Coolidge seems to be the only one who'll end Debs' disastrous economic policies.

You want to put in a man whose policies laid the foundation for the Great Depression?! Coolidge is the last person we want in the seat of the Presidency.

Many would dispute that, including Uncle Milty (Milton Friedman).

You mean the guy who *indirectly, and among many others* laid the foundations for the 2008 crisis (no doubt he would dispute that as well, of course Roll Eyes).
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« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2013, 08:29:52 PM »

By the way, I nominate Norman Thomas for Debs' VP.
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« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2013, 08:31:22 PM »

I voted for one of our most underrated POTUS's, Silent Cal. Politicians tend to talk way too much these days. I would like more beef, and less empty calories in the words emanating from the class. We now have politicians like Palin that are almost entirely just junk food. Anyway, it is better to do not much, than do harm.
You think Debs is doing harm?

See: Panic of 1921.
Yea, but that's the capitalists' fault and not Debs'. This is why he nationalized a few industries and started a public works program to solve these problems.
Again, he did it with the intention of solving things. Doing something with the intention of solving things guarantees nothing. The economy is in a state of, how shall we call, "destructive transition". A break from capitalism would of course have direct market consequences even as it's happening. Where we shall go should the "transition" complete itself remains to be seen.
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« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2013, 08:31:39 PM »

I voted for one of our most underrated POTUS's, Silent Cal. Politicians tend to talk way too much these days. I would like more beef, and less empty calories in the words emanating from the class. We now have politicians like Palin that are almost entirely just junk food. Anyway, it is better to do not much, than do harm.
You think Debs is doing harm?

He never had the power to do any harm, so no, he didn't.
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« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2013, 08:32:28 PM »

Cathcon, I want Sen. Lee Overman (D-NC)/Rep. Alexander Mitchell Palmer (D-PA) on the ballot on the Anti-Socialist Party ticket.
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