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Question: 'Kay dawgs. Let's do this.
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Socialist Convention: President Eugene V. Debs (Socialist-Indiana)
 
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Socialist Convention: Former President Robert M. La Follette, Sr. (Republican/Progressive-Wisconsin)
 
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Republican Convention: Former Governor John Calvin Coolidge (Republican-Massachusetts)
 
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Republican Convention: Former President Robert M. La Follette, Jr. (Republican/Progressive-Wisconsin)
 
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Republican Convention: Senator Hiram W. Johnson (Republican-California)
 
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Democratic Convention: Governor Alfred E. Smith (Democrat-New York)
 
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Democratic Convention: Mr. William G. McAdoo (Democrat-California)
 
#8
Democratic Convention: Congressman John W. Davis (Democrat-West Virginia)
 
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« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2013, 08:32:34 PM »

All the Republican choices are good, but Coolidge seems to be the only one who'll end Debs' disastrous economic policies.

You want to put in a man whose policies laid the foundation for the Great Depression?! Coolidge is the last person we want in the seat of the Presidency.

Many would dispute that, including Uncle Milty (Milton Friedman). We lacked skill in managing the money supply back then. We should put Ben Shalom Bernanke in a time machine to go back and redo it all, once the stock market crash happened.

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« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2013, 08:33:52 PM »

Cathcon, I want Sen. Lee Overman (D-NC)/Rep. Alexander Mitchell Palmer (D-PA) on the ballot on the Anti-Socialist Party ticket.

Could be possible. I have a semi-strict doctrine of basing it on real life tickets, but this is definitely called for. The question of course is whether or not I will answer that call.
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« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2013, 08:36:05 PM »

Ooh! Sam's leading the Red Scare! Time for another excerpt from an Atlamerican history textbook!
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« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2013, 08:37:25 PM »

Ooh! Sam's leading the Red Scare! Time for another excerpt from an Atlamerican history textbook!

Please, go ahead.
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« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2013, 08:40:51 PM »

Cathcon, I want Sen. Lee Overman (D-NC)/Rep. Alexander Mitchell Palmer (D-PA) on the ballot on the Anti-Socialist Party ticket.

Splitting your vote will lead you to victory! Great idea.
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« Reply #30 on: February 10, 2013, 08:46:16 PM »

Excerpt from Atlamerican History: The 20th Century:

The First Red Scare

The election of President Eugene Debs saw a surge of anti-socialist activity, with many influential Atlamericans from both parties leading the charge, among them Democratic Congressman A. Mitchell Palmer and Republican activist Samuel Joyce. The anti-socialist movement was given fuel for its fire when President Debs recognized the newly formed Soviet Union, raising fears that he would attempt to turn the United States into a Communist nation. Attempts were made to draft influential Senator Lee Overman for President in the 1924 Presidential Election, which saw the first use of the jungle primary system.

The Jungle Primary

After the hotly contested election of 1920, which saw a widespread Socialist attempt at infiltrating the Republican National Convention, Congress passed the Second Electoral Reform Act of 1921, overriding a Presidential veto. The law prohibited voters from voting in multiple party primaries and was seen at the time as a major step in eliminating electoral fraud...
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« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2013, 08:47:45 PM »

I've decided to vote for Smith, because the Democratic needs more voters.
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« Reply #32 on: February 10, 2013, 08:48:31 PM »

Also, dawgs, trust me. You don't need to all vote Debs. There are some parties (Democrats, anyone?) that could use some primary voters. Giving Debs 63% at this Uber-Convention isn't going to give him a land-slide re-election.

Yeah, probably right.

Oh well, too late.
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« Reply #33 on: February 10, 2013, 08:48:59 PM »

Nah dawg. We don't have an actual "jungle primary" system. This is just to dissuade the saboteurs. It's like how in real life you have to choose between a Democratic and Republican primary. Except it's not like I can check registration in two or three different threads. So this is like the voting booth, you choose your party and which candidate you want from that party.
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« Reply #34 on: February 10, 2013, 08:49:49 PM »


No.
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« Reply #35 on: February 10, 2013, 08:50:14 PM »

Calvin Coolidge, of course.
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« Reply #36 on: February 10, 2013, 08:52:55 PM »

Bleh, these choices; why isn't Oscar Underwood included Angry
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« Reply #37 on: February 10, 2013, 08:54:30 PM »

Vote LaFollette to keep Debs from getting renominated!
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« Reply #38 on: February 10, 2013, 09:00:04 PM »


Yeah, it kinda was.
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« Reply #39 on: February 10, 2013, 09:00:51 PM »

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« Reply #40 on: February 10, 2013, 09:01:42 PM »

Nah dawg. We don't have an actual "jungle primary" system. This is just to dissuade the saboteurs. It's like how in real life you have to choose between a Democratic and Republican primary. Except it's not like I can check registration in two or three different threads. So this is like the voting booth, you choose your party and which candidate you want from that party.

McGraw-Hill apologizes for the error and will strive for 100% accuracy in all future editions.
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« Reply #41 on: February 10, 2013, 09:03:00 PM »

Also, dawgs, trust me. You don't need to all vote Debs. There are some parties (Democrats, anyone?) that could use some primary voters. Giving Debs 63% at this Uber-Convention isn't going to give him a land-slide re-election.

Yeah, probably right.

Oh well, too late.

Huh. Maybe I should have voted for La Follette at the RNC. Ah, well.

Also, was that 63% number an indication of anything? If so, was it an indication of what percentage he has within the Socialist Party or of what percentage he has out of all seven candidates combined?
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« Reply #42 on: February 10, 2013, 09:04:40 PM »

Nah dawg. We don't have an actual "jungle primary" system. This is just to dissuade the saboteurs. It's like how in real life you have to choose between a Democratic and Republican primary. Except it's not like I can check registration in two or three different threads. So this is like the voting booth, you choose your party and which candidate you want from that party.

McGraw-Hill apologizes for the error and will strive for 100% accuracy in all future editions.

I 'ppreciate it, and realize you're just trying to do the best job you can. I, as Atleftica's deity, will attempt to keep you informed on some notable changes and such.
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« Reply #43 on: February 10, 2013, 09:08:23 PM »

Nah dawg. We don't have an actual "jungle primary" system. This is just to dissuade the saboteurs. It's like how in real life you have to choose between a Democratic and Republican primary. Except it's not like I can check registration in two or three different threads. So this is like the voting booth, you choose your party and which candidate you want from that party.

McGraw-Hill apologizes for the error and will strive for 100% accuracy in all future editions.

I 'ppreciate it, and realize you're just trying to do the best job you can. I, as Atleftica's deity, will attempt to keep you informed on some notable changes and such.

Cool *fistbumps Supreme Lord Cathcon*.
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« Reply #44 on: February 10, 2013, 09:15:14 PM »

Cathcon, I want Sen. Lee Overman (D-NC)/Rep. Alexander Mitchell Palmer (D-PA) on the ballot on the Anti-Socialist Party ticket.

Seconded, though I wish the standard bearer for anti-communism in this era was someone better than Lee Overman.
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« Reply #45 on: February 10, 2013, 09:16:05 PM »

Cathcon, I want Sen. Lee Overman (D-NC)/Rep. Alexander Mitchell Palmer (D-PA) on the ballot on the Anti-Socialist Party ticket.

Seconded, though I wish the standard bearer for anti-communism in this era was someone better than Lee Overman.

Does the "right" of Atleftica truly want their vote split three ways?
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« Reply #46 on: February 10, 2013, 09:17:12 PM »

Doesn't matter, Debs will just win a majority again anyway. The American People love him.
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« Reply #47 on: February 10, 2013, 09:18:20 PM »

Cathcon, I want Sen. Lee Overman (D-NC)/Rep. Alexander Mitchell Palmer (D-PA) on the ballot on the Anti-Socialist Party ticket.

Seconded, though I wish the standard bearer for anti-communism in this era was someone better than Lee Overman.

Does the "right" of Atleftica truly want their vote split three ways?

The left has had its vote split four ways on occasion and we've done fine.
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« Reply #48 on: February 10, 2013, 09:22:21 PM »

Cathcon, I want Sen. Lee Overman (D-NC)/Rep. Alexander Mitchell Palmer (D-PA) on the ballot on the Anti-Socialist Party ticket.

Seconded, though I wish the standard bearer for anti-communism in this era was someone better than Lee Overman.

Does the "right" of Atleftica truly want their vote split three ways?

The left has had its vote split four ways on occasion and we've done fine.

Underwood and Marshall losing is hardly the left doing fine.  Debs is alright, but not the way he was elected.
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« Reply #49 on: February 10, 2013, 09:27:51 PM »

Cathcon, I want Sen. Lee Overman (D-NC)/Rep. Alexander Mitchell Palmer (D-PA) on the ballot on the Anti-Socialist Party ticket.

Seconded, though I wish the standard bearer for anti-communism in this era was someone better than Lee Overman.

Does the "right" of Atleftica truly want their vote split three ways?

The left has had its vote split four ways on occasion and we've done fine.

Underwood and Marshall losing is hardly the left doing fine.  Debs is alright, but not the way he was elected.

So if there's a four-way split and only one can win, the fact that the other three didn't win means the whole thing's doing badly? We've had 36 consecutive years of leftist Presidents, X.
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