1924 Uber-Convention

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

You know what? I'm voting to reelect the President.

How will we determine the Vice-President, though? Second-highest vote tally? I don't want Vice President Coolidge assuming office when Debs dies.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

You know what? I'm voting to reelect the President.

How will we determine the Vice-President, though? Second-highest vote tally? I don't want Vice President Coolidge assuming office when Debs dies.

This is a Primary. We still have a General, I think.

Ah. Cool.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

By the way, I nominate Norman Thomas for Debs' VP.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Ooh! Sam's leading the Red Scare! Time for another excerpt from an Atlamerican history textbook!

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Excerpt from Atlamerican History: The 20th Century:

The First Red Scare

The election of President Eugene Debs saw a surge of anti-socialist activity, with many influential Atlamericans from both parties leading the charge, among them Democratic Congressman A. Mitchell Palmer and Republican activist Samuel Joyce. The anti-socialist movement was given fuel for its fire when President Debs recognized the newly formed Soviet Union, raising fears that he would attempt to turn the United States into a Communist nation. Attempts were made to draft influential Senator Lee Overman for President in the 1924 Presidential Election, which saw the first use of the jungle primary system.

The Jungle Primary

After the hotly contested election of 1920, which saw a widespread Socialist attempt at infiltrating the Republican National Convention, Congress passed the Second Electoral Reform Act of 1921, overriding a Presidential veto. The law prohibited voters from voting in multiple party primaries and was seen at the time as a major step in eliminating electoral fraud...

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

widespread

No.

Yeah, it kinda was.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Nah dawg. We don't have an actual "jungle primary" system. This is just to dissuade the saboteurs. It's like how in real life you have to choose between a Democratic and Republican primary. Except it's not like I can check registration in two or three different threads. So this is like the voting booth, you choose your party and which candidate you want from that party.

McGraw-Hill apologizes for the error and will strive for 100% accuracy in all future editions.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Also, dawgs, trust me. You don't need to all vote Debs. There are some parties (Democrats, anyone?) that could use some primary voters. Giving Debs 63% at this Uber-Convention isn't going to give him a land-slide re-election.

Yeah, probably right.

Oh well, too late.

Huh. Maybe I should have voted for La Follette at the RNC. Ah, well.

Also, was that 63% number an indication of anything? If so, was it an indication of what percentage he has within the Socialist Party or of what percentage he has out of all seven candidates combined?

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Nah dawg. We don't have an actual "jungle primary" system. This is just to dissuade the saboteurs. It's like how in real life you have to choose between a Democratic and Republican primary. Except it's not like I can check registration in two or three different threads. So this is like the voting booth, you choose your party and which candidate you want from that party.

McGraw-Hill apologizes for the error and will strive for 100% accuracy in all future editions.

I 'ppreciate it, and realize you're just trying to do the best job you can. I, as Atleftica's deity, will attempt to keep you informed on some notable changes and such.

Cool *fistbumps Supreme Lord Cathcon*.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Cathcon, I want Sen. Lee Overman (D-NC)/Rep. Alexander Mitchell Palmer (D-PA) on the ballot on the Anti-Socialist Party ticket.

Seconded, though I wish the standard bearer for anti-communism in this era was someone better than Lee Overman.

Does the "right" of Atleftica truly want their vote split three ways?

The left has had its vote split four ways on occasion and we've done fine.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Cathcon, I want Sen. Lee Overman (D-NC)/Rep. Alexander Mitchell Palmer (D-PA) on the ballot on the Anti-Socialist Party ticket.

Seconded, though I wish the standard bearer for anti-communism in this era was someone better than Lee Overman.

Does the "right" of Atleftica truly want their vote split three ways?

The left has had its vote split four ways on occasion and we've done fine.

Underwood and Marshall losing is hardly the left doing fine.  Debs is alright, but not the way he was elected.

So if there's a four-way split and only one can win, the fact that the other three didn't win means the whole thing's doing badly? We've had 36 consecutive years of leftist Presidents, X.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Cathcon, I want Sen. Lee Overman (D-NC)/Rep. Alexander Mitchell Palmer (D-PA) on the ballot on the Anti-Socialist Party ticket.

Seconded, though I wish the standard bearer for anti-communism in this era was someone better than Lee Overman.

Does the "right" of Atleftica truly want their vote split three ways?

The left has had its vote split four ways on occasion and we've done fine.

Underwood and Marshall losing is hardly the left doing fine.  Debs is alright, but not the way he was elected.

So if there's a four-way split and only one can win, the fact that the other three didn't win means the whole thing's doing badly? We've had 36 consecutive years of leftist Presidents, X.

Just saying it could be better.

Do you mean more leftist, as in a four-, five-, or even six-term Debs Presidency?

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

In honor of the Clanbake, this ought to take more than two days.

Clanbake? Is this some weird pro-weed festival hosted by liberal members of the KKK?

Apparently a clan bake is where a bunch of people get together in a small room or someplace and get all potted up on weed.

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Ooh, we seem to have an actual primary battle going on! Will this determine the future of the Republican Party, with the rising-est rising star of the conservative wing in a battle to claim the party mantle and restore conservatism to the national stage once and for all? Or will Atleftican conservatism be crushed once and for all? Stay tuned for our next update!

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Our next update: Coolidge is leading in the Republican polls, with 58% support among those who responded to 42% for Johnson.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

To be fair, the margins are somewhat exaggerated, as the poll was of seven people. Coolidge leads 4 to 3.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Can we have a united ticket to go up against the Soviets Socialists? 

As in a Republican and a Democrat or this Overman/Palmer thing that's being bandied about?

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

In honor of the Clanbake, this ought to take more than two days.

Clanbake? Is this some weird pro-weed festival hosted by liberal members of the KKK?

The 1924 DNC received the nickname of "Klanbake" because it was a long drawn out affair that lasted over two weeks and more than 100 ballots as the delegates baked in summer and the participation of Klansmen as delegates was a contentious issue, as was an anti-Klan platform plank that was introduced by Forney Johnston of Alabama, but defeated.  Incidentally, McAdoo was the Klan kanidate.

The Klandidate, if you will. And the KKK pretty much died during Reconstruction, back when Fenton signed the Enforcement Acts.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

In Socialist Debsian America, I think the KKK would be even stronger than in real life.

But this is Atlamerica/Atleftica, where the KKK is exactly what we say it is.

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Let's move to the GE!

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Hm...Could these results be used as a polling benchmark for the general election, I wonder?