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« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2013, 02:13:43 pm »

I really don't understand what the Democrats have to do.

Are they supposed to allow (un)intelligent design to be taught at schools?  Are they supposed to make food stamps, social security, medicare, medicaid "for-whites-only" programs?
Are they supposed to ban abortion?  Teach schoolchildren how to use guns?

I really don't get it.  The Democrats are already too conservative for their base on many issues (see the reaction to Villaraigosa at the DNC when the party officials tried to invoke God in the party platform or the polls on gun control and how different public opinion is than the opinion of many Washington Democrats).

It's conservatives that will have to change their views and join the rest of us in the 21st century.  But I don't see that happening any time soon and I really don't know where that will lead.  But I hope I'm wrong.


My feelings exactly. Let the Bubbas die the death they so assuredly deserve.
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« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2013, 03:14:46 pm »

Looking back at Election 2008, I think Hillary Clinton would have taken Georgia.

Theory: Clinton would've won beyond 400 electoral votes in defeating John McCain.

Map (non-visual)Sad Take every state, plus District of Columbia, won in 2004 by John Kerry and add the following as Democratic pickups. Starting point was 19 states, plus D.C., and a score of 252 in the Electoral College).
01. Florida (27; 279 electoral votes)
02. Ohio (20; 299 electoral votes)
03. Georgia (15; 314 electoral votes)
04. North Carolina (15; 329 electoral votes)
05. Virginia (13; 342 electoral votes)
06. Indiana (11; 353 electoral votes)
07. Missouri (11; 364 electoral votes)
08. Colorado (09; 373 electoral votes)
09. Louisiana (09; 382 electoral votes)
10. Iowa (07; 389 electoral votes)
11. Arkansas (06; 395 electoral votes)
12. Nevada (06; 401 electoral votes)
13. New Mexico (05; 406 electoral votes)
14. West Virginia (05; 411 electoral votes)
15. Montana (03; 414 electoral votes)

Had it been a 40-state landslide:
16. Texas (34; 448 electoral votes)
17. Tennessee (11; 459 electoral votes)
18. Arizona (10; 469 electoral votes)
19. Kentucky (08; 467 electoral votes)
20. South Dakota (03; 470 electoral votes)
21. North Dakota (03; 473 electoral votes)
* Nebraska #02 (01; 474 electoral votes)
* Nebraska #01 (01; 475 electoral votes)
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« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2013, 05:17:12 pm »

Strongest candidate in the invisible primaries since ______?

Senator Hillary Clinton.
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« Reply #28 on: February 26, 2013, 07:21:04 pm »

Strongest candidate in the invisible primaries since ______?

Senator Hillary Clinton.

If she couldn't clear a fast-rising freshman senator from the field when he had (or was thought to) his entire career in the Senate still ahead of him, then she wasn't nearly as strong as purported. I'm thinking 2000 Gore.
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« Reply #29 on: February 26, 2013, 10:23:19 pm »
« Edited: February 26, 2013, 10:25:31 pm by cope1989 »

I really don't understand what the Democrats have to do.

Are they supposed to allow (un)intelligent design to be taught at schools?  Are they supposed to make food stamps, social security, medicare, medicaid "for-whites-only" programs?
Are they supposed to ban abortion?  Teach schoolchildren how to use guns?

I really don't get it.  The Democrats are already too conservative for their base on many issues (see the reaction to Villaraigosa at the DNC when the party officials tried to invoke God in the party platform or the polls on gun control and how different public opinion is than the opinion of many Washington Democrats).

It's conservatives that will have to change their views and join the rest of us in the 21st century.  But I don't see that happening any time soon and I really don't know where that will lead.  But I hope I'm wrong.


I wasn't suggesting the Democratic party dumb itself down to appeal to bubbas, I was just offering my opinion on why Dems are detested by that demographic. I agree that they are the ones who need to change, not the Democratic party. But their worldview is based on more than just race. It's a combination of conservative religious dogma and a sheltered outlook on the real world that you described well in your post.
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