Portuguese Election is on Sunday

[Notre Dame rules!]

Bono,

Look on the bright side.  When the Socialists screw everything up, and they always do, the blame will be squarely on them. 

Hopefully the conservatives, or what passes for conservatives in Portugal, will lay out a clear agenda for righting the ship of state, and clean up in the next cycle of elections.

[Bono]

Why is the center-right party caleld "Social Democrats"? That seems weird.

It's an historic thing.

[Bono]

Wow, what exactly did the conservatives wrong that they suffered such a massive defeat?

The PM is a dickhead, to put it simple.
Now that it's over, I can say this.

[Silent Hunter]

Well done to the Socialists.

[Frodo]

excellent!  with the Socialists in control of Spain and Portugal, there remains only France to complete the conquest of the Iberian peninsula.  this is off topic, but does anyone happen to know when the next French presidential and parliamentary election is supposed to occur?  i know Jacque Chirac and his center-right party in parliament gained the majority in 2002, so will it be in 2007, or 2008? i am not entirely sure whether he was elected for a five year or a six year term.   

[Umengus]

excellent!  with the Socialists in control of Spain and Portugal, there remains only France to complete the conquest of the Iberian peninsula.  this is off topic, but does anyone happen to know when the next French presidential and parliamentary election is supposed to occur?  i know Jacque Chirac and his center-right party in parliament gained the majority in 2002, so will it be in 2007, or 2008? i am not entirely sure whether he was elected for a five year or a six year term.   

French Presidential election: 2007 (in theory) (it's a five year term)
French legislatives: 2007 (in theory too) (idem)

[Frodo]

excellent!  with the Socialists in control of Spain and Portugal, there remains only France to complete the conquest of the Iberian peninsula.  this is off topic, but does anyone happen to know when the next French presidential and parliamentary election is supposed to occur?  i know Jacque Chirac and his center-right party in parliament gained the majority in 2002, so will it be in 2007, or 2008? i am not entirely sure whether he was elected for a five year or a six year term.   

French Presidential election: 2007 (in theory) (it's a five year term)
French legislatives: 2007 (in theory too) (idem)

'in theory' -so is that to say that the President decides when to hold an election, as in Britain (but with the Prime Minister)? 

[minionofmidas]

It's slightly more complicated, but basically yes.
As for the Presidential, I dunno why that is saying "in theory". Shouldn't be (unless maybe there's rumours that CHirac might die or resign and not fulfill his term, but I'm unaware of anything like that).

Back on topic:
Exact results please?
BE did great it appears.

[Bono]

excellent!  with the Socialists in control of Spain and Portugal, there remains only France to complete the conquest of the Iberian peninsula.  this is off topic, but does anyone happen to know when the next French presidential and parliamentary election is supposed to occur?  i know Jacque Chirac and his center-right party in parliament gained the majority in 2002, so will it be in 2007, or 2008? i am not entirely sure whether he was elected for a five year or a six year term.   

France is not in the Iberian Peninsula.

[Middle-aged Europe]

Results (don´t know how final/official they are):

http://psephos.adam-carr.net/countries/p/portugal/portugal2005.txt

[Filuwaúrdjan]

PSD dropped 11pts. Ouch.

Anyone got regional or municiple or whatever numbers?

[minionofmidas]

Found'em!

Well, except for Lisbon I only found seat distribution without percentages or 2002 data, but still (it appears that when two parties get the same no. of seats, the order is those with more votes first)

Viana do Castelo
3 PS - 2 PSD - 1 PP
Braga
9 PS - 7 PSD - 1 PP - 1 PCP
Porto
20 PS - 12 PSD - 2 PP - 2 BE - 2 PCP
Vila Real
3 PS - 2 PSD
Braganca
2 PS - 2 PSD
Aveiro
8 PS - 6 PSD - 1 PP
Viseu
4 PS - 4 PSD - 1 PP
Guarda
2 PS - 2 PSD
Castelo Branco
4 PS - 1 PSD
Coimbra
6 PS - 4 PSD
Leiria
5 PSD - 4 PS -1 PP. Only mainland province won by PSD
Santarem
6 PS - 3 PSD - 1 PCP
Portalege
2 PS. Yes, that's right, no seats for anybody else.
Evora
2 PS - 1 PCP. PSD more or less wiped out in the Southern Interior
Setúbal
8 PS - 3 PCP - 3 PSD - 2 BE - 1 PP
Beja
2 PS - 1 PCP
Faro
6 PS - 2 PSD
and...
Acores
3 PS - 2 PSD
Madeira
3 PSD - 3 PS
4 seats for overseas Portuguese not yet counted.

Oh, and I promised you Lisboa:
PS 44.1 (+5.4) 23 (+3)
PSD 23.6 (-12.0) 12 (-6)
PCP 9.8 (+1.0) 5 (+1)
BE 8.8 (+4.1) 4 (+2)
PP 8.2 (-.3) 4 (-)

[minionofmidas]

Ah, and from the vaults of my computer...
1999 and 2002 data.

Viana do Castelo
1999 PS 3 - PSD 2 - PP 1
2002 PS 3 - PSD 3 (ordering not informative of who was ahead; I don't know about that)
Braga
1999 PS 8 - PSD 7 - PP 1 - PCP 1
2002 PSD 9 - PS 8 - PP 1
Porto
1999 PS 19 - PSD 13 - PP 3 - PCP 2
2002 PS 17 - PSD 16 - PP 3 - PCP 1 - BE 1
Vila Real
1999 & 2002 PSD 3 - PS 2
Braganca
1999 PS 2 - PSD 2
2002 PSD 3 - PS 1
Viseu
1999 PS 4 - PSD 4 - PP 1
2002 PSD 5 - PS 3 - PP 1
Guarda
1999 & 2002 (& 2005) PS 2 - PSD 2
Castelo Branco
1999 & 2002 PS 3 - PSD 2
Aveiro
1999 PSD 7 - PS 6 - PP 2
2002 PSD 8 - PS 5 - PP 2
Coimbra
1999 PS 6 - PSD 4
2002 PS 5 - PSD 5
Leiria
1999 PSD 5 - PS 4 - PP 1
2002 PSD 6 - PS 3 - PP 1
Santarem
1999 PS 5 - PSD 3 - PP 1 - PCP 1
2002 PS 4 - PSD 4 - PP 1 - PCP 1
Lisboa
1999 PS 23 - PSD 14 - PCP 6 - PP 4 - BE 2
2002 PS 20 - PSD 18 - PP 4 - PCP 4 - BE 2
Setúbal
1999 PS 8 - PCP 5 - PSD 3 - PP 1
2002 PS 7 - PSD 5 - PCP 4 - PP 1
Portalegre
1999 & 2002 PS 2 - PSD 1
Evora
1999 PS 2 - PSD 1 - PCP 1
2002 PS 1 - PSD 1 - PCP 1
Beja
1999 & 2002 (& 2005) PS 2 - PCP 1
Faro
1999 PS 5 - PSD 3
2002 PS 4 - PSD 4
Acores
1999 PS 3 - PSD 2
2002 PSD 3 - PS 2
Madeira
1999 PSD 3 - PS 2
2002 PSD 4 - PS 1
Overseas
1999 PS 3 - PSD 1
2002 PSD 3 - PS 1

Total
1999 PS 115 - PSD 81 - PCP 17 - PP 15 - BE 2
2002 PSD 105 - PS 96 - PP 14 - PCP 12 - BE 3
2005 PS 120 - PSD 72 - PCP 14 - PP 12 - BE 8 - undecided 4

Notice that, between 1999 and 2002, Braga and Porto gained a seat each while Lisboa and Evora lost a seat each, and between 2002 and 2005, Madeira gained a seat while Portalegre lost a seat.

[Silent Hunter]

The balance of power in the EU:
Right 13
Left 10
Coalition 2

[minionofmidas]

Trying to make some sense out of what Ethelberth posted...

[Bono]

Well, on a final note, the results of the emmigrants were known yesterday. The emmigrants in europe circle turned out with 1 PSD and 1 PS, while the emmigrants out of europe turned out with 2 PSD.

[minionofmidas]

These are two constituencies? Interesting. Didn't know that. Explains why there are no Communist overseas representatives, btw, something I'd been wondering about. (Lots of Communist Portuguese in Germany, for example.)

[Bono]

These are two constituencies? Interesting. Didn't know that. Explains why there are no Communist overseas representatives, btw, something I'd been wondering about. (Lots of Communist Portuguese in Germany, for example.)

If there are, they don't go to teh polls, because according to the National Electoral Comission, the commies only got 973 votes in the Europe constituence:
http://eleicoes.cne.pt/cne2005/raster/index.cfm?dia=20&mes=02&ano=2005&eleicao=ar

[minionofmidas]

Possible, yeah.
Also quite a few probably got themselves German passports in the past few years.