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« Reply #1275 on: May 29, 2004, 02:02:31 PM »

Is there any way we can make maps?
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« Reply #1276 on: May 29, 2004, 03:28:08 PM »

The best way to make maps like that is using GIS data... the problem is that all the GIS data I can find for Canada is locked at Universities rather than freely available like it is in America.  I'm still looking though...

Elections Canada has an excellent mapping system.. but it would be difficult to make an independent map from it.
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« Reply #1277 on: May 30, 2004, 02:15:59 AM »

An update... I found a GIS map of the old (301) districts... but still no luck on the 308.
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« Reply #1278 on: May 30, 2004, 03:32:16 AM »

There'll be a map after the election (Atlas of Canada usually does and CBC might as well)... but that's a bit late Wink

An alternative would be to get outline maps of the different provinces, and draw the ridings on, based on the Elections Canada maps.
But that takes a long time.
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« Reply #1279 on: May 30, 2004, 11:56:03 AM »

Even if you could find a map it would be hard to do anything with it, Canda has such a huge amount of land and such dense areas of population. Toronto seats number the same amount likely in most provinces and they are only a couple blocks. So any riding map would be difficult to fill in.

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« Reply #1280 on: May 30, 2004, 12:54:10 PM »

You could do insets for Toronto, Vancouver, etc... which is not hard to do with GIS.

There *are* GIS maps available... I just need someone who goes to a Canadian University to do some hunting for us!
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« Reply #1281 on: May 30, 2004, 03:28:10 PM »


There *are* GIS maps available... I just need someone who goes to a Canadian University to do some hunting for us!

I think Canadian Observer does
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« Reply #1282 on: May 31, 2004, 10:28:48 AM »

UPDATED: John Crosbie will not be running in Avalon
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« Reply #1283 on: May 31, 2004, 10:57:51 AM »

The other day I heard about the possiblilty of a Conservative Minority Governement on a radio talk show. With every passing week that seems more and more likely. I'll be frank, the idea of the Conservative-Alliance Party in power in Canada scares me to the bone. I believe that Canada is on the crux of an important era, this is the time before the Baby Boomers retire and place a huge drain on medical resources, if the crisis occurs under the Conservatives then I expect the one response that I've grown to expect from them, "PRIVITIZE NOW!" They'll drop all ties to public healthcare and set up the private care they've always wanted. Healthcare needs reform and investment right now, not cuts and neglect. Vote NDP or Liberal, for the love of god, for the good of the country!

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« Reply #1284 on: May 31, 2004, 11:02:48 AM »

I suppose "investment" is a code word for "tax increase" in Canada too?
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« Reply #1285 on: May 31, 2004, 11:13:59 AM »

A CPC minority government wouldn't last long and would be a disaster for their future electoral prospects.
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« Reply #1286 on: May 31, 2004, 02:58:26 PM »

I suppose "investment" is a code word for "tax increase" in Canada too?

In my opinion htmldon taxes are worth public healthcare, so ya tax increases, for those what are richest and can best afford it. I pretty much agree with the NDP on their platform for taxation www.ndp.ca .

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« Reply #1287 on: June 01, 2004, 08:17:02 AM »

More poll yawning:

Ipsos (all-but-a-tracking-poll) Lib 34, Con 30, NDP 16, BQ 11, Green 6, Other 2

SES (tracking) Lib 36, Con 26, NDP 20, BQ 13, Green 5
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« Reply #1288 on: June 01, 2004, 10:25:43 AM »

For the love of God I hope that SES is more accurate. I point out however that the Conservatives winning a Minority Government would likely have to call an election by 2007 so that they could A) thicken up their minority or B) gain the majority. I say this because a minority Conservative government would find it difficult to pass legislation without pandering to the NDP, Bloc or Greens (if there are Greens). Their new grand vision for Canada would be a little difficult to instrument to say the least. After last week's bilingual statements and their Alliance past the Bloc won't be anxious to help them, so I wouldn't bet on Bloc support like many pundits are.

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« Reply #1289 on: June 01, 2004, 12:37:26 PM »


Sorry folks.  Didn't know which thread to put this one under:

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040601/us_nm/economy_dc_3

"Factories, Construction Are Booming"

"NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. factories cranked up output at a cracking pace in May and construction spending surged to a third straight record high in April, according to reports on Tuesday that showed the economy gathering speed."

You can read the rest of the article at the address provided above.
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« Reply #1290 on: June 01, 2004, 01:47:17 PM »


Sorry folks.  Didn't know which thread to put this one under:

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040601/us_nm/economy_dc_3

"Factories, Construction Are Booming"

"NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. factories cranked up output at a cracking pace in May and construction spending surged to a third straight record high in April, according to reports on Tuesday that showed the economy gathering speed."

You can read the rest of the article at the address provided above.

As good as any place.

We forget that the economic growth occurring now demands energy. That's a significant part of the reason for the $2 a gallon gas price. Though fears of attacks in the mideast are part of the high cost of gas, it's not the only reason.

Unfortunately I agree with jmfcst that it's hard for consumers to look past the price of gas when judging the economy.
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« Reply #1291 on: June 01, 2004, 02:20:30 PM »

(see first post of this thread for more charts)

Job growth strong
 
Strong April report shows unemployment rate down to 5.6%; March jobs total revised up.
 
April added 288,000 jobs
March number was revised up to 337,000 jobs from the 308,000

http://money.cnn.com/2004/05/07/news/economy/jobless/index.htm



Avg. salary of jobs lost under Bush Administration: $41,000
"                             "gained"                                ":$26,000

McJobs people.  These are artificial numbers.  The good paying jobs in and around Philadelphia have tanked.  A lot of the new, good paying jobs are in government.  
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« Reply #1292 on: June 01, 2004, 04:07:46 PM »

Avg. salary of jobs lost under Bush Administration: $41,000
"                             "gained"                                ":$26,000

McJobs people.  

No, it's just that when the tech bubble brust, it took with it a lot of 6 figure jobs.
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« Reply #1293 on: June 01, 2004, 04:18:37 PM »


Avg. salary of jobs lost under Bush Administration: $41,000
"                             "gained"                                ":$26,000

McJobs people.  These are artificial numbers.  The good paying jobs in and around Philadelphia have tanked.  A lot of the new, good paying jobs are in government.  
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« Reply #1294 on: June 01, 2004, 04:46:06 PM »

...which is why working for a living is a sh**tty way to go.
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« Reply #1295 on: June 01, 2004, 04:48:04 PM »

...which is why working for a living is a sh**tty way to go.

hahaha . . . if we all won the Powerball lottery, and therefore all retired to enjoy our new riches, the government will just find new ways to tax us.  Smiley

But I can handle that.  Smiley
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« Reply #1296 on: June 01, 2004, 04:53:44 PM »

...which is why working for a living is a sh**tty way to go.

Agreed.  I'm certainly opting out of it.
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« Reply #1297 on: June 01, 2004, 05:11:46 PM »

I can only find links to sites stating Reagan trailed Mondale by 9 points in 1983.  Im not sure where I heard the 30% figure (maybe I was thinking of Clinton trailing Dole in 95, or maybe Im thinking Reagan in late 82).  

But, even trailing by 9% in 83 and winning by 18% in 84, shows that the undercurrrents during 83 were tilted heavily toward Reagan.

I think you are think how Reagan trailed Carter by 31% in 1/80.
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« Reply #1298 on: June 02, 2004, 10:01:37 AM »

New SES/CPAC tracking poll:
Lib 36, Con 25, NDP 22
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« Reply #1299 on: June 02, 2004, 10:08:44 AM »

New SES/CPAC tracking poll:
Lib 36, Con 25, NDP 22

What about the Bloc and Green? 15% Block 2% Green? Do you guys think that the Greens will win any seats at all this election, if so will they get the required seats for party status (3 I think) in your opinion?

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