William Shakespeare, Quentin Tarantino or Lena Dunham

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If I had to rank them:

Tarantino
Dunham
Shakespeare

Tarantino is the best because he keeps attention and isn't predictable without going into some absurd over the wall things like Dunham can. But Dunham is also clearly better than Shakespeare because she is never boring and usually quite funny.

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I guess BRTD's Community College's teachers must have really, really loathed him.

I went to state college, not community, and I didn't take any theater classes so Shakespeare never came up. If you're thinking what I said about Plato just about everyone in the class agreed with me since no one liked the idea of being ruled by "Philosopher Kings".

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It's threads like these that make me wish the "No rules" rule applied to all Forum Community threads instead of just the Update thread...

Can I give permission to enact such a rule in this thread?

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Like I said, I don't know, it could've either been pruned or I deleted it awhile ago for whatever reason, in the past browsing archives I have thought "wow that was kind of dumb" and deleted a thread. Google's caches stay around for a long time (hence the warning sometimes given that if you post something here you can't just expect to delete it later and have it be gone forever.) If you're implying I deleted it and then made the new one it would've been less work just to bump the old one you know (and you all know I'm certainly not prone against bumping old threads.)

Anyway my point is I don't care what anyone says in this thread. Say what you wish. I think as Torie noted the last couple days show that I am quite thick-skinned.

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Like I said, I don't know, it could've either been pruned or I deleted it awhile ago for whatever reason, in the past browsing archives I have thought "wow that was kind of dumb" and deleted a thread. Google's caches stay around for a long time (hence the warning sometimes given that if you post something here you can't just expect to delete it later and have it be gone forever.) If you're implying I deleted it and then made the new one it would've been less work just to bump the old one you know (and you all know I'm certainly not prone against bumping old threads.)

Well we know it wasn't auto-pruned.  That doesn't happen to 2-year-old threads.

So your story is that at some point, you thought "Wow, that's a dumb poll", and deleted it, only to later repost a poll that was basically the same thing?  You're beginning to sound like Bushie... that just doesn't add up, unless you're bipolar when it comes to your views of your own polls.

Actually being "bipolar" on polls might be a good description, since my views can change on them based on a lot of things, including alcohol consumed before making them. I'm sure this isn't the first time I deleted a poll in the archive and made a similar one later.

What's also quite likely is that I wasn't bothered by the poll itself but rather something incredibly offensive that I said later in it (considering the things I said about Irish at the time you're stating it wouldn't be surprising). I know I deleted a lot of stuff with such stuff in it around late 2011/early 2012, my whole finding Jesus time. Around that era wasn't it common that I accused Irish-Americans of being Gaddafi sympathizers? That might've been it actually.

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Do you often go back and read through your old polls randomly, weeks after they were made?

Yes actually. Or more likely I just do a search for a certain query on a whim and if it was mentioned in a poll I've made I'm more likely to delete it. I actually deleted one last night through while doing this (something about Serb secessionists in the early 90s)

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And BTW Inks, if it was on the Off Topic board, it could've easily been autopruned. See the timestamps: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?board=26.1680

I should also point out that while the poll still appears a result, none of the replies do and it's not readable as a cache. I've seen people report pulling up Google caches of deleted blog entries and the like from weeks later.

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Do you often go back and read through your old polls randomly, weeks after they were made?

Yes actually. Or more likely I just do a search for a certain query on a whim and if it was mentioned in a poll I've made I'm more likely to delete it. I actually deleted one last night through while doing this (something about Serb secessionists in the early 90s)

And why do you delete those polls?

Because I'm embarrassed or ashamed of something in them (not necessarily the original poll itself.)

Like I said, I don't know, it could've either been pruned or I deleted it awhile ago for whatever reason, in the past browsing archives I have thought "wow that was kind of dumb" and deleted a thread. Google's caches stay around for a long time (hence the warning sometimes given that if you post something here you can't just expect to delete it later and have it be gone forever.) If you're implying I deleted it and then made the new one it would've been less work just to bump the old one you know (and you all know I'm certainly not prone against bumping old threads.)

Well we know it wasn't auto-pruned.  That doesn't happen to 2-year-old threads.

So your story is that at some point, you thought "Wow, that's a dumb poll", and deleted it, only to later repost a poll that was basically the same thing?  You're beginning to sound like Bushie... that just doesn't add up, unless you're bipolar when it comes to your views of your own polls.

Actually being "bipolar" on polls might be a good description, since my views can change on them based on a lot of things, including alcohol consumed before making them. I'm sure this isn't the first time I deleted a poll in the archive and made a similar one later.

What's also quite likely is that I wasn't bothered by the poll itself but rather something incredibly offensive that I said later in it (considering the things I said about Irish at the time you're stating it wouldn't be surprising). I know I deleted a lot of stuff with such stuff in it around late 2011/early 2012, my whole finding Jesus time. Around that era wasn't it common that I accused Irish-Americans of being Gaddafi sympathizers? That might've been it actually.

And you are not hostile to Irish Americans now?!

If there is one achievement I could give you, Zachary, it's your ability to make me understand how black people feel when idiot white racists spout off Ku Klux Klan talking points.

I get along with plenty of Irish Americans. I get along with Nathan and apparently he is, and as I mentioned one of my best friends in real life is. I get along with patrick1 most of the time. I even get along with actual Irish people like oakvale sometimes. Not all Irish Americans are obnoxious douchebags, nor even a majority. It's just the minority is REALLY vocal.

And you don't see me accusing all Irish Americans of being Gaddafi supporters, do you?

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Like I said, I don't know, it could've either been pruned or I deleted it awhile ago for whatever reason, in the past browsing archives I have thought "wow that was kind of dumb" and deleted a thread. Google's caches stay around for a long time (hence the warning sometimes given that if you post something here you can't just expect to delete it later and have it be gone forever.) If you're implying I deleted it and then made the new one it would've been less work just to bump the old one you know (and you all know I'm certainly not prone against bumping old threads.)

Well we know it wasn't auto-pruned.  That doesn't happen to 2-year-old threads.

So your story is that at some point, you thought "Wow, that's a dumb poll", and deleted it, only to later repost a poll that was basically the same thing?  You're beginning to sound like Bushie... that just doesn't add up, unless you're bipolar when it comes to your views of your own polls.

Actually being "bipolar" on polls might be a good description, since my views can change on them based on a lot of things, including alcohol consumed before making them. I'm sure this isn't the first time I deleted a poll in the archive and made a similar one later.

What's also quite likely is that I wasn't bothered by the poll itself but rather something incredibly offensive that I said later in it (considering the things I said about Irish at the time you're stating it wouldn't be surprising). I know I deleted a lot of stuff with such stuff in it around late 2011/early 2012, my whole finding Jesus time. Around that era wasn't it common that I accused Irish-Americans of being Gaddafi sympathizers? That might've been it actually.

And you are not hostile to Irish Americans now?!

If there is one achievement I could give you, Zachary, it's your ability to make me understand how black people feel when idiot white racists spout off Ku Klux Klan talking points.

You can own him all you want, dude, but he will never understand. More likely, he'll accuse you of loving the IRA.

As I stated in another thread, one of my best friends in real life, who I go to shows with all the time, is Irish. Do you think I have ever accused him of loving the IRA?

Also Mecha is from a Protestant family anyway so it would make even less sense for him to love the IRA than it would for me (his family would be Unionists in Northern Ireland.)

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Here's always the thing that got me. Obviously the vast majority of Irish-Americans never gave money to the IRA. The vast majority never expressed support for or cared about the IRA. I'll grant that.

But still, let's consider how disturbing it is that many did, that some people will still brag about this today, and that for so many this was just because of some silly nationalistic feelings when they had no connection to Ireland in the modern day, and had never even been there. It was like wearing a Che shirt, except in this case the money is going to fund actually killing people. It's just despicable.

Now yes like I've said many times, I'll admit the vast majority of Irish-Americans are not responsible for this. But it's the vocal ones that you'll hear about and who give the impressions.

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Really not wanting to get into these same arguments but I'll bite.  If you are looking for a foil here, I'll stand up and be counted.   I support Sinn Fein and aims the Republican movement stretching back to before most of our posters were born. I'd still support the cause of a non sectarian united Irish Republic today. It goes without saying that many of the actions from people on all sides of the conflict were appalling. It is also a 1000% improvement that  the stakeholders have put down the gun and moved forward to peace.

Yes, and those were the actions that people who thought it was badass to donate to NORAID were funding.

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But none of that stuff, while relevant, deals with Irish-Americans being such idiots. How would you feel about Serb-Americans fundraising for Mladic's paramilitary forces in the early 90s? Or the Tamils in Canada who helped prop up the Tamil Tigers?

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You're giving great examples of why I hate identifying with historical culture and ethnic heritage instead of your own affiliations so much...

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You're giving great examples of why I hate identifying with historical culture and ethnic heritage instead of your own affiliations so much...

Historical culture and ethnic heritage are 'one's own affiliations' to most people.

That sure isn't the case amongst people who live in or near Uptown in Minneapolis. Like despite being fictional (since we all know there's still tons of people in real life like them), think of the characters on Girls.

And my point is that using that as "one's own affiliations" results in hatred and people doing nasty things.

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My point really was that the characters on Girls, even if they are fictitious, are completely representative of millions of people, and those people are unlikely to put any value on culture and heritage.

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A big reason Shakespeare comes across as boring is that it has often been performed so boringly.

I think very few people can understand the language today.  Its rather like listening to people from the North of England talking - you get some very rough idea what is going on, but it isn't fun after about five minutes.

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Biggest waste of high school. And that says a lot. He gets crazy respect because he's old.  The iambic pentameter is an impressive feat, but it's also a pretty stupid literary device that I find very distracting. It's like somebody is dribbling a basketball during every play. His storytelling isn't all that imaginative. He took a lot of ideas from others, as the idea of plagiarism wasn't yet a thing.  

Having unoriginal story elements does not make storytelling unimaginative.  It's in the combination, the use of perspective, theme, dramatic presentation, etc.

So would you consider Avatar an original piece of storytelling?

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A big reason Shakespeare comes across as boring is that it has often been performed so boringly.

I think very few people can understand the language today.  Its rather like listening to people from the North of England talking - you get some very rough idea what is going on, but it isn't fun after about five minutes.

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Biggest waste of high school. And that says a lot. He gets crazy respect because he's old.  The iambic pentameter is an impressive feat, but it's also a pretty stupid literary device that I find very distracting. It's like somebody is dribbling a basketball during every play. His storytelling isn't all that imaginative. He took a lot of ideas from others, as the idea of plagiarism wasn't yet a thing. 

Having unoriginal story elements does not make storytelling unimaginative.  It's in the combination, the use of perspective, theme, dramatic presentation, etc.

So would you consider Avatar an original piece of storytelling?

i never saw it. why?

It's quite known for a staggeringly unoriginal plot, but still had all the CGI and innovative visual effects and all. But the plot is as unoriginal as they come.

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