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President Upton Sinclair (Socialist-California)/Governor Daniel Hoan (Socialist-Wisconsin)
 
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Senator Estes Kefauver (Democrat-Tennessee)/Governor Adlai E. Stevenson II (Democrat-Illinois)
 
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General Dwight D. Eisenhower (Republican-New York)/Senator Margaret Chase Smith (Republican-Maine)
 
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Former State Attorney General Eric Hass (Socialist Labor-New York)/Congressman Arla A. Albaugh (Socialist Labor-Ohio)
 
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« Reply #50 on: March 20, 2013, 06:05:05 PM »

Vote Democratic...the symbolism of a pro Civil Rights Southerner is more important than just about anything at this time.  

If the Socialists can appreciate that, the party will likely have moderated enough to be worth another look in the future.
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« Reply #51 on: March 20, 2013, 06:07:10 PM »

Vote Democratic...the symbolism of a pro Civil Rights Southerner is more important than just about anything at this time.  

Ah, you're new. See, we've already had President Douglass...
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« Reply #52 on: March 20, 2013, 06:07:41 PM »

Vote Democratic...the symbolism of a pro Civil Rights Southerner is more important than just about anything at this time.  

If the Socialists can appreciate that, the party will likely have moderated enough to be worth another look in the future.

Oh, I appreciate the symbolism, I just don't think it's fair to deny Upton his second term. Kefauver can have his turn in 1956.
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« Reply #53 on: March 20, 2013, 07:15:18 PM »

Not-so-secret left-wing meeting for the future: What do you guys think about having JFK in 1960 with Humphrey as his VP, then Humphrey 'til 1972, then Eugene McCarthy 'til 1980, then Ted Kennedy. Would that not be amazing?

And Sinclair '52, then Hoopes or Hoan '56. We can have the Democrats shift leftward and assimilate the Socialists.

Better idea; we'll stick with the Socialists, have Sinclair win this election, then Hoan from 56-64, then A. Philip Randolph from 64-72, then elect Bayard Rustin Atlamerica's first gay president in 1972. Then we can have Anderson from 80-88 for some ideological diversity. Harold Stassen can finally get his chance from 88-96, followed by the four-term presidency of Ralph Nader from 96-2012.
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« Reply #54 on: March 20, 2013, 08:57:56 PM »

Not-so-secret left-wing meeting for the future: What do you guys think about having JFK in 1960 with Humphrey as his VP, then Humphrey 'til 1972, then Eugene McCarthy 'til 1980, then Ted Kennedy. Would that not be amazing?

And Sinclair '52, then Hoopes or Hoan '56. We can have the Democrats shift leftward and assimilate the Socialists.

Better idea; we'll stick with the Socialists, have Sinclair win this election, then Hoan from 56-64, then A. Philip Randolph from 64-72, then elect Bayard Rustin Atlamerica's first gay president in 1972. Then we can have Anderson from 80-88 for some ideological diversity. Harold Stassen can finally get his chance from 88-96, followed by the four-term presidency of Ralph Nader from 96-2012.

We've got to compromise somewhere, Drj (or is it Dr. J?). The minute we start nominating nobodies, the party dies. Hoan and Hoopes are the last even somewhat big names left, and I'd like to see the Socialists off on a high note before the Great Democratic Hegemony begins.
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« Reply #55 on: March 20, 2013, 11:02:36 PM »

Not-so-secret left-wing meeting for the future: What do you guys think about having JFK in 1960 with Humphrey as his VP, then Humphrey 'til 1972, then Eugene McCarthy 'til 1980, then Ted Kennedy. Would that not be amazing?

And Sinclair '52, then Hoopes or Hoan '56. We can have the Democrats shift leftward and assimilate the Socialists.

Better idea; we'll stick with the Socialists, have Sinclair win this election, then Hoan from 56-64, then A. Philip Randolph from 64-72, then elect Bayard Rustin Atlamerica's first gay president in 1972. Then we can have Anderson from 80-88 for some ideological diversity. Harold Stassen can finally get his chance from 88-96, followed by the four-term presidency of Ralph Nader from 96-2012.

We've got to compromise somewhere, Drj (or is it Dr. J?). The minute we start nominating nobodies, the party dies. Hoan and Hoopes are the last even somewhat big names left, and I'd like to see the Socialists off on a high note before the Great Democratic Hegemony begins.

Maybe, but this TL has a way of surprising us. The Great Democratic Hegemony has always seemed to be just around the corner (accompanied by The Inevitable Socialist Decline), but then it doesn't come. So idk when it finally will, if ever.  ¯\(°_o)/¯
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« Reply #56 on: March 21, 2013, 12:01:44 AM »

Not-so-secret left-wing meeting for the future: What do you guys think about having JFK in 1960 with Humphrey as his VP, then Humphrey 'til 1972, then Eugene McCarthy 'til 1980, then Ted Kennedy. Would that not be amazing?

And Sinclair '52, then Hoopes or Hoan '56. We can have the Democrats shift leftward and assimilate the Socialists.

Better idea; we'll stick with the Socialists, have Sinclair win this election, then Hoan from 56-64, then A. Philip Randolph from 64-72, then elect Bayard Rustin Atlamerica's first gay president in 1972. Then we can have Anderson from 80-88 for some ideological diversity. Harold Stassen can finally get his chance from 88-96, followed by the four-term presidency of Ralph Nader from 96-2012.

We've got to compromise somewhere, Drj (or is it Dr. J?). The minute we start nominating nobodies, the party dies. Hoan and Hoopes are the last even somewhat big names left, and I'd like to see the Socialists off on a high note before the Great Democratic Hegemony begins.
How about Frank Zeidler the freedom fighting mayor of Milwaukee.
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« Reply #57 on: March 21, 2013, 05:01:51 AM »

Not-so-secret left-wing meeting for the future: What do you guys think about having JFK in 1960 with Humphrey as his VP, then Humphrey 'til 1972, then Eugene McCarthy 'til 1980, then Ted Kennedy. Would that not be amazing?

And Sinclair '52, then Hoopes or Hoan '56. We can have the Democrats shift leftward and assimilate the Socialists.

Better idea; we'll stick with the Socialists, have Sinclair win this election, then Hoan from 56-64, then A. Philip Randolph from 64-72, then elect Bayard Rustin Atlamerica's first gay president in 1972. Then we can have Anderson from 80-88 for some ideological diversity. Harold Stassen can finally get his chance from 88-96, followed by the four-term presidency of Ralph Nader from 96-2012.

We've got to compromise somewhere, Drj (or is it Dr. J?). The minute we start nominating nobodies, the party dies. Hoan and Hoopes are the last even somewhat big names left, and I'd like to see the Socialists off on a high note before the Great Democratic Hegemony begins.

Maybe, but this TL has a way of surprising us. The Great Democratic Hegemony has always seemed to be just around the corner (accompanied by The Inevitable Socialist Decline), but then it doesn't come. So idk when it finally will, if ever.  ¯\(°_o)/¯

Yeah, but after the 50s they just became a bunch of civil rights activists, and while I'd be fine with A. Philip Randolph, wouldn't Humphrey be at least as good? Also, Hoopes in '56 was the RL Socialists' last candidate.
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« Reply #58 on: March 21, 2013, 08:20:31 AM »

Vote Democratic...the symbolism of a pro Civil Rights Southerner is more important than just about anything at this time.  

Ah, you're new. See, we've already had President Douglass...

Here's a link to all the things: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=162605.0.
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« Reply #59 on: March 21, 2013, 06:28:10 PM »

Eisenhower's still leading by two votes! We can pull this out, Socialists!
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« Reply #60 on: March 22, 2013, 10:54:58 AM »

Come on, Socialists, we need every one of you to vote for Sinclair!
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« Reply #61 on: March 22, 2013, 06:42:11 PM »

Kind of excited to see the results here.

This is looking to be '28 level close!
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« Reply #62 on: March 22, 2013, 08:10:39 PM »

It's a tie! We win!
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« Reply #63 on: March 22, 2013, 08:23:47 PM »

Yes! Presuming Cathdawg voted for Eisenhower. I'm really looking forward to the map to see which southern states we won after Voting rights act.
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« Reply #64 on: March 22, 2013, 08:25:47 PM »

Well, there goes the Republican Party...
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« Reply #65 on: March 22, 2013, 08:26:10 PM »

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« Reply #66 on: March 22, 2013, 08:30:29 PM »

Well, there goes the Republican Party...
Eisenhower can run again, and it's probably time to retire Sinclair(he will be 78 by 1956).
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« Reply #67 on: March 22, 2013, 08:30:58 PM »

Yes! Presuming Cathdawg voted for Eisenhower. I'm really looking forward to the map to see which southern states we won after Voting rights act.

Did Sinclair do that?

EDIT: Wait, yes he did. Black people would probably vote heavily Socialist, seeing as (as has been mentioned earlier) the Socialist Party was basically just civil rights activists after the '50s.
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« Reply #68 on: March 22, 2013, 08:55:31 PM »

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« Reply #69 on: March 22, 2013, 09:00:06 PM »

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« Reply #70 on: March 22, 2013, 09:01:48 PM »

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« Reply #71 on: March 22, 2013, 09:06:27 PM »

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« Reply #72 on: March 22, 2013, 09:07:46 PM »


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« Reply #73 on: March 22, 2013, 09:09:08 PM »

Considering it's a tie, and even assuming a Socialist landslide in the South, I guess Eisenhower could still win a House vote with some Democratic support..
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« Reply #74 on: March 22, 2013, 09:13:37 PM »

Considering it's a tie, and even assuming a Socialist landslide in the South, I guess Eisenhower could still win a House vote with some Democratic support..
It's not a tie, Cathcon's vote is a tie breaker(he voted for Republicans presumably), so Socialists win.
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